Message to all Mods

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Don't need all that, just need an editable form like this one... Fill it out boys, i'm sure the mods would love to read them.

Thanks silverD.

[bigjohncdn]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Don't need all that, just need an editable form like this one... Fill it out boys, i'm sure the mods would love to read them.

Hilarious! Love that form.

[Vengeance78]

Exactly. Well said!

Originally Posted by lannie

It should never get your blood boiling. Ignoring it is so easy.

[3blade]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Don't like politics....don't get involved.
Don't support hand guns....don't buy one.
Don't like drugs.... don't use them.

Why is the way of the left to ban stuff they do not like. No one says you have to get involved.

Is anyone here an adult, able to make adult choices?

Just because a lot of people agree with you, does not make you right. If someone had refused to drink the koolaid at Jonestown, they would still be here, but everyone was doing it, so it must be right.

ironic, isnt it...exactly what the OP was saying.

this is not a 'left vs right thread'. it is a 'left vs right' is getting in the way of meaningful discussions thread. and you did what you did. regardless of whether or not i agree, it didn't need to come up.

[Vengeance78]

hahahaha!!!! Awesome!!! You get a beer as well!

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Don't need all that, just need an editable form like this one... Fill it out boys, i'm sure the mods would love to read them.

[Redfrog]

Originally Posted by 3blade

ironic, isnt it...exactly what the OP was saying.

this is not a 'left vs right thread'. it is a 'left vs right' is getting in the way of meaningful discussions thread. and you did what you did. regardless of whether or not i agree, it didn't need to come up.

Tell me how you discuss politics without left and right?

The OP wants to ban all discussion, because he doesn't like another POV, therefore no one should discuss any politics.

Odd when all he has to do is remove himself from the discussion. His choice.

[Wild&Free]

ban banning

that will fix everything

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Tell me how you discuss politics without left and right?

by discussing the merits of each proposal and potential consequences.

leave ideology out of it.

[omega50]

Restricting free thought by banning politics in General Discussion will just make it pop up somewhere else.
AO Whack- a-Mole

And personally..........

[alacringa]

Originally Posted by omega50

Restricting free thought by banning politics in General Discussion will just make it pop up somewhere else.
AO Whack- a-Mole

And personally..........

That might be the best meme ever.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by sns2

Hi guys. I have been thinking about posting this for awhile now. It is my feeling, and from my reading over the past months, many others' as well, that the general discussion forum has become a very divisive place. A place where forum members who likely shared many helpful posts with one another about all things outdoors, now simply sling mud, disparaging remarks, and veiled putdowns at one another, simply based on how a vote was cast.

I will be the first to admit that I have become frustrated at times, even to the point of calling a forum member, an asshol_, which is generally not the way I roll.

I would ask that you consider amongst yourself if politics is really an important part of Alberta Outdoorsmen? If not, it might be worth considering adding it to your list of banned topics. I highly doubt anyone will ever change the way they will vote because of any of the daily arguments that are taking place, but I am sure that people get frustrated, and check out because of the foolishness that seems to be quite rampant over the last number of months.

Just something to consider.

Thank you for the work you do.

sns2

WOW !!!!!

Politics drives our livelyhood bud.

Maybe its just because you are outnumbered in your beliefs that you are frustrated.

Change the channel

Its freewill man

Use the power that our government gave you

This aint communist N Korea

[Kanonfodder]

General is nothing, Fishing is the problem child of AO

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Wild&Free

by discussing the merits of each proposal and potential consequences.

leave ideology out of it.

You cannot make a decisive act other than being stuck in purgatory eh ????

[Redfrog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrXnDbOpxU4

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Kanonfodder

General is nothing, Fishing is the problem child of AO

Hahahaha

havnt heard from ya in a while

was wondering where u bin

[avb3]

I mod on an International form that has almost 150,000 members. People can get very passionate about areas that they are interested in, and I often see very similar types of arguments in that forum as occur here.

Recognizing that in virtually any endeavor rules laws and regulations are an integral part of the activities, we came up with the following rule:

Discussions about politics and religion are permitted only in association with the topic of this forum and will be closed or removed if they become disruptive.

That pretty well covers it, and as soon as a topic starts drifting anywhere outside the parameters of the topic of the forum, it gets closed.

In other words if discussion was started about Trump or Hilary, and it didn't directly affect the activity, but the discussion was in general, it would not be allowed.

It works over there, and I have no idea what the impact here would be if the same rule were applied.

[Wild&Free]

Originally Posted by Luxor

You cannot make a decisive act other than being stuck in purgatory eh ????

fire good

[3blade]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Tell me how you discuss politics without left and right?

The OP wants to ban all discussion, because he doesn't like another POV, therefore no one should discuss any politics.

Odd when all he has to do is remove himself from the discussion. His choice.

not the point, and i disagreed with him, we do need a place to discuss politics. just keep it to the general section, in threads where the OP addresses it directly. there is a rule about derails...

[Redfrog]

Thanks for the clarification.

Can you imagine how bad things would be in Alberta if AO didn't allow political discussions. How would anyone know who to vote for?

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by avb3

I mod on an International form that has almost 150,000 members. People can get very passionate about areas that they are interested in, and I often see very similar types of arguments in that forum as occur here.

Recognizing that in virtually any endeavor rules laws and regulations are an integral part of the activities, we came up with the following rule:

Discussions about politics and religion are permitted only in association with the topic of this forum and will be closed or removed if they become disruptive.

That pretty well covers it, and as soon as a topic starts drifting anywhere outside the parameters of the topic of the forum, it gets closed.

In other words if discussion was started about Trump or Hilary, and it didn't directly affect the activity, but the discussion was in general, it would not be allowed.

It works over there, and I have no idea what the impact here would be if the same rule were applied.

Thanks for the Trump approval plug lol

I knew I liked you

[SBE2]

Originally Posted by raab

Posts like this are what gets my blood boiling. I won't sink to his level and call him a name. I'll just use his post as a reminder of what not to say in a respectful debate.

It was a generalization towards what is, in my opinion, an irrational way of thinking or another form of entitlement. In which your opinion or tone towards looked to be in favour of, all the while seemingly missing where this money (handout) is derived from. Yourself and others came across as thinking others should pay for your socialist utopian ideals. This isn't and will never be an apology, it is my opinion.

You sound very soft in your replies and easily offended, I have to ask if you filled out a hurt feelings report prior to submitting your "poor victim" responses? If so, were you provided with the mandatory two free tissues and a big hug to make the hurt go away? Ok good, your participation ribbon can also be picked up at the 7/11 as well. Cheers.

[sns2]

Originally Posted by avb3

I mod on an International form that has almost 150,000 members. People can get very passionate about areas that they are interested in, and I often see very similar types of arguments in that forum as occur here.

Recognizing that in virtually any endeavor rules laws and regulations are an integral part of the activities, we came up with the following rule:

Discussions about politics and religion are permitted only in association with the topic of this forum and will be closed or removed if they become disruptive.

That pretty well covers it, and as soon as a topic starts drifting anywhere outside the parameters of the topic of the forum, it gets closed.

In other words if discussion was started about Trump or Hilary, and it didn't directly affect the activity, but the discussion was in general, it would not be allowed.

It works over there, and I have no idea what the impact here would be if the same rule were applied.

It would be an improvement over this.

[Sneeze]

Sst

[Got Juice?]

I for one really enjoy the political discussions. It is a rare opportunity to grind out what we like and dislike about the various political parties, and learn a great deal about our fellow members.

Yes, it sometimes get's a little dirty, but on the whole I believe it is well behaved.

If a person does not want to expose themselves to an open discussion, don't enter into it IMHO

Great job by the mods for letting everyone vent, and express their thoughts...or lack thereof

[Vengeance78]

The gov't gave us power?

Made me think of this:

“The people have the power, all we have to do is awaken that power in the people. The people are unaware. They’re not educated to realize that they have power. The system is so geared that everyone believes the government will fix everything. We are the government.”—John Lennon

Originally Posted by Luxor

Use the power that our government gave you

This aint communist N Korea

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Vengeance78

The gov't gave us power?

Made me think of this:

“The people have the power, all we have to do is awaken that power in the people. The people are unaware. They’re not educated to realize that they have power. The system is so geared that everyone believes the government will fix everything. We are the government.”—John Lennon

Thats cute

And I get your point

[brendan's dad]

You can't ask to ban political discussions 10 weeks prior to a federal election.... people might actually get bored with AO and go outside and do something productive.

[takeiteasybird]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

Agree. People will say " don't like it, don't open the thread". Problem is it spills over into other threads that originally had nothing to do with politics. Then the same people take over the thread....political topics are ok, just spills over into other threads to often, where it wasn't intended.

100% agree. Political / right vs. left threads are fine, just don't smear the nonsense over the entire board...

[Segundo]

I think showing ones face and using your real name cleans up the mindless , uneducated and generally ignorant and rude comments.

[JustMe]

Without a doubt, this is a provocative suggestion and I can see some of the points made by both sides of the debate.

I'm not sure we should ban political discussion per se, but perhaps the rules of the forum have to be imposed with more vigor? I have received infractions for what I considered pretty minor offences, while a few seem to have immunity to say what they want. A couple of those I call the Rude and Ridiculous duo because of the first letter of there User Names. I know the Moderator's are all volunteers and for the most part they do a great job, but perhaps they should nip some discussions before the name calling and personal insults get to carried away? We all have opinions and should be free to express them, but I'm not sure a forum is the place to try and force those opinions on others?

I had a great discussion with another member on here yesterday by the User Name of L***r. We often differ on a lot of things, but yesterday, while we had different views, we took the time to be rational, leave pettiness aside and it was a great exchange!

Anyway, thats my opinion and I'm sticking with it...... For now!

Originally Posted by sns2

Hi guys. I have been thinking about posting this for awhile now. It is my feeling, and from my reading over the past months, many others' as well, that the general discussion forum has become a very divisive place. A place where forum members who likely shared many helpful posts with one another about all things outdoors, now simply sling mud, disparaging remarks, and veiled putdowns at one another, simply based on how a vote was cast.

I will be the first to admit that I have become frustrated at times, even to the point of calling a forum member, an asshol_, which is generally not the way I roll.

I would ask that you consider amongst yourself if politics is really an important part of Alberta Outdoorsmen? If not, it might be worth considering adding it to your list of banned topics. I highly doubt anyone will ever change the way they will vote because of any of the daily arguments that are taking place, but I am sure that people get frustrated, and check out because of the foolishness that seems to be quite rampant over the last number of months.

Just something to consider.

Thank you for the work you do.

sns2