Message to all Mods

[sns2]

Originally Posted by 3blade

ironic, isnt it...exactly what the OP was saying.

this is not a 'left vs right thread'. it is a 'left vs right' is getting in the way of meaningful discussions thread. and you did what you did. regardless of whether or not i agree, it didn't need to come up.

The strange thing is that the small crowd of guys who act like children, are actually unable to interact with others they disagree with via ideas, so they resort to weak insults, and putdowns. It speaks more of them than anything else, but unfortunately - and this is my point in starting the thread - many people won't bother to weigh in if they are gonna get blasted by someone who feels threatened by a different viewpoint. It's about making this a better place.

I would be all for a locked forum for people with a certain post count where disagreements can really take place without fear of receiving a timeout because you let someone know how you really feel.

[Arnak]

I don't like the idea of a specific section for politic. It's an outdoor/fishing/hunting/trapping forum so no need for politic, travel, life insurance, retirement planning and cooking specific sections. I'll join a forum for those topics the day I need info on those. I believe there is something great in forums remain specialized on a certain topic.... like fishing and hunting in this case.

For me the general section is there for all those random topics so that the rest of the forum can remain what it was created for.

As for banning the politic topic all together I don't know. I find people join those online discussions to answer others rather than understand and share ideas so I keep politic outside my internet activities since it's rarely constructive. But for those those who have that kind of time and energy to spend? Why not. I'm sure there are those who truly love to argue about politic.

[Bushrat]

Arguing, insulting and drama are the lifeblood of all forums. Forums that over moderate and regulate don't last long. If the freedom to get up in the morning, don our capes, come on here and sing from our perchs like a rooster crowing is taken away then what is the point. Forums are an outlet to unbridle our opinions and exercise our mindspeak . If people take things said on here personally then they have issues. Censoring what's talked about here won't change that.

[Winch101]

If every time you come on here your contribution strikes a sour note
With the general population. Than take a hint , or develop some
Masochistic character traits . It is only in the last couple of years
The liberal and socialist invasion in this province has reached such
A volume that traditions like fishing , hunting ,trapping are being
Infected by these mind sets. That " let's all play nice " approach
Is a liberal slime tactic , has no validity and only succeeds in dividing
The opposition and sows seeds of doubt in what should be a tight
Group of freedom seeking populace. If the moderators have the final
Word , then what is the problem , if you have a command of the Queens
English then ,you know the rules . Should be straightforward .
If on the other ,you think that somehow your thoughts and words
Are the only important ones and all should adhere . Well !
Self gratification comes in many forms , the Internet has opened many
Doors in that area . Whenever I see a case of verbal masterbation
On here ,I wonder at the human body , the ability to blow smoke
Up ones own ------ is amazing . I hope that makes it perfectly clear,
And we can carry on in our usual fun loving manner .
When my wife says to me ...." You know what would be good "
Or " you know what I think you should do ". Generally I'm not
Going to be happy after that . I don't think coming on here should
Be like talking to your wife .




If it ain't broke don't fix it !

[hal53]

Originally Posted by sns2

The strange thing is that the small crowd of guys who act like children, are actually unable to interact with others they disagree with via ideas, so they resort to weak insults, and putdowns. It speaks more of them than anything else, but unfortunately - and this is my point in starting the thread - many people won't bother to weigh in if they are gonna get blasted by someone who feels threatened by a different viewpoint. It's about making this a better place.

I would be all for a locked forum for people with a certain post count where disagreements can really take place without fear of receiving a timeout because you let someone know how you really feel.

I agree with your first paragraph, I think a lot of it comes from voter remorse

[sns2]

Originally Posted by hal53

I agree with your first paragraph, I think a lot of it comes from voter remorse

Hal, I knew you were a closet dipper!

[hal53]

Originally Posted by sns2

Hal, I knew you were a closet dipper!

Hahahaha!!!
Signed
"Minion"

[Winch101]

Seeing as we have identified the problem as emanating from
A smal group of members . I think those people should be named .
Instead of casting blame will nilly , let's get it all out on the table
Here. Name those childish individuals and we will take them all to Macdonalds
I like thev130 th Ave ,bigger slide . And get to the bottom of this . This ***** footing around the innuendo tree , smacks of
A certain political faction who shall remain nameless at this time .
Who are these digressors.
Don't you feel like your being sold a used car here .

[waterninja]

"Nice Hair Though"

[Sneeze]

Hey sns2 - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8e2ujXe8g

Pretty sure I'm considered to be one of the bullies Winch. He doesn't like being forced to rethink his perspectives and consider that he might be wrong.

[score]

Ridiculous. Enough has been banned already. The mods have been weeding out those that cross the line. The majority of members post just fine.

If you don't like something or it offends you call for a ban, right?

This is an example of what I talk about a lot. This kind of thinking and behavior is out of control and it should be immediately stopped.

Can't say this, can't say that......according to you, OP? There are rules already and the mods are enforcing them.

No one is forcing you to participate.

[Salavee]

KGB quote

"Don't like it - don't read it, simple. What's good about the odour - if you don't like the smell - move away!!
We have enough things that are censored in our real lifes outside this forum, like political correctness. This forum is for people to speak their mind. To share their views. When the topic gets hot - some of us are loosing their cool. And that is not cool! We should always respect each other but we should be allowed to express our opinions. "

Bang On !
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[JustMe]

I don't believe that's what are a lot are saying, or wanting......

The point trying to be made is that the choosen few seem to be able to say whatever, whenever they choose, while the rest are cut off at the knees (at times) when we try and refute some of their posts. The ground rules have to be consistent for all, or we end up acting like a bunch of kids!

Again, that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.....

Originally Posted by score

Ridiculous. Enough has been banned already. The mods have been weeding out those that cross the line. The majority of members post just fine.

If you don't like something or it offends you call for a ban, right?

This is an example of what I talk about a lot. This kind of thinking and behavior is out of control and it should be immediately stopped.

Can't say this, can't say that......according to you, OP? There are rules already and the mods are enforcing them.

No one is forcing you to participate.

[58thecat]

Hmmm the MODs do their job within what the rules are to the best of their abilities. You, me, us need to open and read and/or get involved with a thread that we choose to. Simply put if you open something that ideas not fit your fancy move on. The squeaky wheel does not always get the grease. Some will kick their heels in the dirt and pout like a spoiled child but you can't please them all, Mods keep at it, job well done!

[Mowich]

Wow. I know what we can do...overreact.
It is no different than your CHOICE of TV. If you don't like what you are watching/reading.....Don't!

[score]

Originally Posted by JustMe

I don't believe that's what are a lot are saying, or wanting......

The point trying to be made is that the choosen few seem to be able to say whatever, whenever they choose, while the rest are cut off at the knees (at times) when we try and refute some of their posts. The ground rules have to be consistent for all, or we end up acting like a bunch of kids!

Again, that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.....

Yep you are entitled to your opinion but you are wrong IMO. There is no favoritism here. The rules have been consistent and the moderators are doing just fine. This isn't a kindergarten class. We discuss adult stuff...like politics.

The left hates...........hates to be called out. When they are they call for bans and rule changes. That's a huge problem today in our society.

[JustMe]

Well, sorta. Unless we disagree with something, then we should be able to voice our opinions without fear of being bullied and having no recourse if we don't want to receive an infraction.

And yes, as stated in my original post, the Mods are all volunteers and for the most part, do a GREAT job!

Now, I think I'll just let this topic run its' course, we've pretty much covered it all I think??

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Hmmm the MODs do their job within what the rules are to the best of their abilities. You, me, us need to open and read and/or get involved with a thread that we choose to. Simply put if you open something that ideas not fit your fancy move on. The squeaky wheel does not always get the grease. Some will kick their heels in the dirt and pout like a spoiled child but you can't please them all, Mods keep at it, job well done!

[score]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Well, sorta. Unless we disagree with something, then we should be able to voice our opinions without fear of being bullied and having no recourse if we don't want to receive an infraction.

And yes, as stated in my original post, the Mods are all volunteers and for the most part, do a GREAT job!

You are not being "bullied". If you do feel that way, learn to post a discussion to support your views and counter the other person like an adult.

You CAN do this without being infracted or running to the mods who have better things to do than look after peoples feelings.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by score

This isn't a kindergarten class.

Sure reads like it at times.

Originally Posted by score

We discuss adult stuff...like children.

Fixed it for you... People are going to have differences of opinion, but when the only defense from some is name calling or belittling. That's child like.

[Okotokian]

Originally Posted by sns2

Hi guys. I have been thinking about posting this for awhile now. It is my feeling, and from my reading over the past months, many others' as well, that the general discussion forum has become a very divisive place. A place where forum members who likely shared many helpful posts with one another about all things outdoors, now simply sling mud, disparaging remarks, and veiled putdowns at one another, simply based on how a vote was cast.

I will be the first to admit that I have become frustrated at times, even to the point of calling a forum member, an asshol_, which is generally not the way I roll.

I would ask that you consider amongst yourself if politics is really an important part of Alberta Outdoorsmen? If not, it might be worth considering adding it to your list of banned topics. I highly doubt anyone will ever change the way they will vote because of any of the daily arguments that are taking place, but I am sure that people get frustrated, and check out because of the foolishness that seems to be quite rampant over the last number of months.

Just something to consider.

Thank you for the work you do.

sns2

In a sense I get where you are coming from, but honestly, I think you need to quit opening and participating in political threads. They are usually pretty clearly marked. I think that would end your frustration. No one is forced to read, participate, or call someone an "as*****". I think the Donald Trump thread has gone on WAY too long, but no one is forcing me to open it or participate in it. The subject matter itself is not offensive.

Now having said that, there s a level of civility that should be maintained in all threads, regardless of topic. Name calling and foul language have no place in the forum regardless of thread. With some notable exceptions I think the mods have done a good job on that. Keep up the good work!

[dmcbride]

Originally Posted by score

Yep you are entitled to your opinion but you are wrong IMO. There is no favoritism here. The rules have been consistent and the moderators are doing just fine. This isn't a kindergarten class. We discuss adult stuff...like politics.

The left hates...........hates to be called out. When they are they call for bans and rule changes. That's a huge problem today in our society.

Fully agree.

Politics effect are passions for the outdoors. Be it, more gun control, new ESRD ministers, the money we pay in taxes, the bans that some parties wish to impose or our vary way of life.

Personally I see more hate coming from the left, but that is just me.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Well, sorta. Unless we disagree with something, then we should be able to voice our opinions without fear of being bullied and having no recourse if we don't want to receive an infraction.

And yes, as stated in my original post, the Mods are all volunteers and for the most part, do a GREAT job!

Now, I think I'll just let this topic run its' course, we've pretty much covered it all I think??

Yeah covered it completely...lots of takes on it, was discussed before, Mods kept things civil, fingers slapped, hey how about that fishing thread of the young lads first laker

[fargineyesore]

Originally Posted by sns2

The strange thing is that the small crowd of guys who act like children, are actually unable to interact with others they disagree with via ideas, so they resort to weak insults, and putdowns. It speaks more of them than anything else, but unfortunately - and this is my point in starting the thread - many people won't bother to weigh in if they are gonna get blasted by someone who feels threatened by a different viewpoint. It's about making this a better place.

I would be all for a locked forum for people with a certain post count where disagreements can really take place without fear of receiving a timeout because you let someone know how you really feel.

You know, your first sentence describes you to a tee when anyone talks about teachers on here, so maybe the pot calling the kettle black?

[sgill808]

Originally Posted by KGB

Don't like it - don't read it, simple. What's good about the odour - if you don't like the smell - move away!!
We have enough things that are censored in our real lifes outside this forum, like political correctness. This forum is for people to speak their mind. To share their views. When the topic gets hot - some of us are loosing their cool. And that is not cool! We should always respect each other but we should be allowed to express our opinions.

I agree.

I have been on AO for about a month now and have read a lot of different threads on a lot of different topics. I feel every one of us on here should be able to express our opinions, regardless of what others think about it (in a respectful manner). I may not necessarily agree with the opinions of others on politics, banning hand guns, Cecil, etc. But I still enjoy the discussions

[JimPS]

Originally Posted by Redfrog

Tell me how you discuss politics without left and right?

The OP wants to ban all discussion, because he doesn't like another POV, therefore no one should discuss any politics.

Odd when all he has to do is remove himself from the discussion. His choice.

Right vs Left is no different than saying Black vs White.

Would you be the kind of guy that is so blind that you can't see any shades of gray?

We'll let you continue to be the good guy (white) and everybody that disagrees with you can be the bad guy (black) or an Orange (badder than bad).

That's an interesting and contradicting affliction - can't see shades of grey but not color blind either.

[score]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Sure reads like it at times.



Fixed it for you... People are going to have differences of opinion, but when the only defense from some is name calling or belittling. That's child like.

Sometimes it does, so? That's goes for any collection of people talking about stuff. Have you never said anything inappropriate?

The mods are doing their job and are weeding out some. Participating on a forum like this requires a thick skin sometimes.

[Purple Farmer]

Mods, Power engineering is the root of all evil. BAN power engineering discussion and the rest of the problems will fix themselves.

[JustMe]

Only a couple months until the opening day of deer season! Enough politics, how are the deer numbers in your area? Everyone?

Originally Posted by 58thecat

Yeah covered it completely...lots of takes on it, was discussed before, Mods kept things civil, fingers slapped, hey how about that fishing thread of the young lads first laker

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by JustMe

Only a couple months until the opening day of deer season! Enough politics, how are the deer numbers in your area? Everyone?

Weeks, it's couple of weeks man.


Bowhunters are people too you know!

[score]

Originally Posted by JimPS

Right vs Left is no different than saying Black vs White.

Would you be the kind of guy that is so blind that you can't see any shades of gray?

We'll let you continue to be the good guy (white) and everybody that disagrees with you can be the bad guy (black) or an Orange (badder than bad).

That's an interesting and contradicting affliction - can't see shades of grey but not color blind either.

Poppycock. What a hypocritical post. You didn't even say "in my opinion".