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Old 12-25-2014, 01:40 PM
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Has anyone heard any updates on open carry issue
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Old 12-25-2014, 01:56 PM
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Not to sound like a defeatist, but it will never happen in Canada. It's like the abortion issue, there is no political appetite for it whatsoever. Look at the fear mongering response the abolition of the LGR created. It would be political suicide for the Tories, and even if it was brought in it would be repealed if and when the Liberals make it back into government.
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Old 12-25-2014, 02:15 PM
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Well then , may as well just forget the whole thing now and not waste time trying to effect changes.
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Old 12-25-2014, 02:18 PM
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If you are holding your breath waiting for this to happen, start breathing before you pass out and hurt yourself when you fall down.

The realities are, that 80 years of social engineering would first need to be reversed to come this end.

Buy lottery tickets, the odds are better.

IMO, things like property rights, bureaucratic accountability, and de-criminalization of firearms possession are far more easily obtained.
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Old 12-25-2014, 07:30 PM
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Not to sound like a defeatist, but it will never happen in Canada. It's like the abortion issue, there is no political appetite for it whatsoever. Look at the fear mongering response the abolition of the LGR created. It would be political suicide for the Tories, and even if it was brought in it would be repealed if and when the Liberals make it back into government.
You sound like a defeatist.

When you use the word "but", it negates anything you said before it.

With your attitude, no we won't see change.
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Old 12-25-2014, 07:42 PM
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You sound like a defeatist.

When you use the word "but", it negates anything you said before it.

With your attitude, no we won't see change.
Whatever man, it's never going to happen, it's no different than the pro life nutbars who think they'll make abortion illegal again. I'd love to able to carry a pistol around but the cold hard truth is that this is a dead issue, no political party in Canada would touch this with a ten foot pole. The voting masses would not stand for it. I'm not a defeatist, I'm a realist. There are some battles we will not win. This is one of them.
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Has anyone heard any updates on open carry issue
Update; 'No change'

I'm sure if we checked back in ten years from now, the update will still be the same.

For further details check Dick's post (#4) ... especially his fourth line.

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Old 12-25-2014, 02:37 PM
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Social engineering changes did not come about overnight. 80 years ago this world was a different place. How was all that social changes brought about.

How many people said we would never get rid of the LGR?

Of course it won't happen overnight, but it will not happen at all without the support and dedicated work of those people who want change.
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Change does not come from the effort of pessimists because they generally little.
The effort of Optimists is what got rid of the long gun registry.
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Old 12-25-2014, 02:53 PM
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Funny how certain occupations are already permitted to open carry. Trappers, surveyors, guides etc. I believe there is a challenge underway based on the grounds that there is no reason to discriminate against bow hunters or blueberry pickers provided they meet the same requirements given to those others being granted carry permits....

There are a bunch of requirements, and a ton of paper work involved, not all applications are approved , but some are. One of the questions is " Would Law Enforcement be able to offer you the protection in a reasonable amount of time?"... In many circumstances where outdoorsman are, they would not.

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Old 12-25-2014, 03:04 PM
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This always comes with me....

http://www.gerbergear.com/Outdoor/Ge...ukri_31-002074

Cougars are opportunistic predators. And given the opportunity... you are food.


Suggesting that you carry a handgun ... shocking.... who would possibly even think of such a thing.

But hypothetically, a GLOCK in 10MM would be my choice... and a STANDARD capacity mag. 15 in the mag, one in the pipe.

Handloaded to max power.


That would level the playing field for a Cougar, Grizzly, or a Moose.
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There are a bunch of requirements, and a ton of paper work involved, not all applications are approved , but some are. One of the questions is " Would Law Enforcement be able to offer you the protection in a reasonable amount of time?"... In many circumstances where outdoorsman are, they would not.
In many circumstances in town they cannot. They almost certainly cannot in a rural area, let alone in the bush.
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My Mom worked at the Bank of Nova Scotia in Calgary 17 Ave SW. 1965, she had a gun in her till. Grandpa had a handgun in his truck for years we just called it the Colt. Grandpa said don't touch that Colt and we never. Don't know what happened to that Colt. Don't know what model it was or where it is. Somehow or other no one was killed. Dang man what went wrong?
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Read what the frog said. It's very true.
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Dang 220 we gotta read your 4 pages of BS every post?

Get over it man. Get your wife to pat ya on the head and say good dog.
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Based on how people talk in the driving threads, I wouldn't trust 'em with sidearms, either!
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Has anyone heard any updates on open carry issue

What issue? Am I missing something like there is an issue that is being considered by parliament?

I wouldn't mind carrying a handgun anywhere where I could legally carry a rifle. That makes sense to me. It's not logical to say that you can carry a rifle or shotgun in the bush but not a handgun.
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Why is it that these threads keep popping up about open carry in Canada or getting the AR15 off the restricted list...SORRY...both wont happen at all.Way back in the 80"s...yes we had legal 30 round mags,ar15's could be shot in the gopher patch. But them days are long gone..
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Why is it that these threads keep popping up about open carry in Canada or getting the AR15 off the restricted list...SORRY...both wont happen at all.Way back in the 80"s...yes we had legal 30 round mags,ar15's could be shot in the gopher patch. But them days are long gone..
Because some people aren't willing to just roll over and die and say its hopeless, no point in trying. Some of us are actually willing to fight to try and get things changed.
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Old 12-26-2014, 03:12 PM
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There is another option for carrying a sidearm anywhere that it's legal to carry a firearm, that being to purchase a gun with antique status. I know of a couple of very nice Colt single actions in 38 Special, that come with letters from the authorities verifying their antique status. Of course the fact that they don't have to be registered, and aren't restricted has led to the owners asking for greatly inflated prices.
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What issue? Am I missing something like there is an issue that is being considered by parliament?

I wouldn't mind carrying a handgun anywhere where I could legally carry a rifle. That makes sense to me. It's not logical to say that you can carry a rifle or shotgun in the bush but not a handgun.
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