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02-19-2017, 10:34 PM
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The real reason the AK47 is prohib?
To my mind, it is no different to the SKS in its semi-automatic configuration. Surely law makers would not just ban it based on it's name/looks?
Does it have anything to do with it being easily converted to full auto?
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02-19-2017, 10:38 PM
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But surely they did ban it based on it's name/looks.
Kind of a common theme.
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02-19-2017, 10:57 PM
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If you are trying to interject logic into the Canadian gun laws.
STOP IT!
No logic is involved.
Instead, think emotionally like a dejected SJW snowflake, and you'll soon see the light.
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02-19-2017, 10:58 PM
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Same reason spas-12 is banned. It killed people in Hollywood movies.
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02-19-2017, 11:00 PM
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If that is the case, then why don't people petition the government to make it legal?
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02-20-2017, 05:41 AM
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If that is the case, then why don't people petition the government to make it legal?
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Answer is in your opq....full auto capability.
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02-20-2017, 05:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick284
If you are trying to interject logic into the Canadian gun laws.
STOP IT!
No logic is involved.
Instead, think emotionally like a dejected SJW snowflake, and you'll soon see the light.
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Exactly...too many snowflakes...
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02-20-2017, 10:03 AM
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I think the lefties prohibited those because of what happened last night in Sweden.
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02-20-2017, 10:09 AM
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If that is the case, then why don't people petition the government to make it legal?
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I would devote my time more towards un-restricting the AR. The AK is essentially a spray and pray, whereas the AR is a multiuse instrument.
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02-20-2017, 10:17 AM
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I would devote my time more towards un-restricting the AR. The AK is essentially a spray and pray, whereas the AR is a multiuse instrument.
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Agreed, the AR-15 is the Kitchen Aid stand mixer/ 350 Chevy small block/ utility pick-up truck of the firearms world. They have more configurations and accessories than you can shake a stick at for a reason.
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02-20-2017, 01:59 PM
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I would devote my time more towards un-restricting the AR. The AK is essentially a spray and pray, whereas the AR is a multiuse instrument.
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^Amen. I'd buy one the moment it became NR.
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02-20-2017, 02:17 PM
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Banned because it can supposedly be turned into full auto, I'm not sure if this is really true can a semi AK be turned auto? I am familiar with the M1 carbine it looks just like the M2 (full auto) however the receiver and internals are completely different.
This is a new story he may have had a full auto or he was slam firing.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...rged-1.3990904
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02-20-2017, 04:26 PM
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Full auto capability.
CZ-58...looks identical to the AK...can't be made to fire full-auto (I'm sure someone has converted one). Non-restricted, so there goes the 'looks' argument.
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02-20-2017, 08:08 PM
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The whole system is flawed. Most semi autos can be converted to full auto. Just as simply as most machinists can make an M4 from a block of aluminum. My guess is that we have the AR restricted based on looks, not function. As the AK is prohibited based on looks, not function.
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02-20-2017, 10:44 PM
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A shame, as the AK is my favourite weapon.
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02-21-2017, 09:23 AM
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The whole system is flawed. Most semi autos can be converted to full auto. Just as simply as most machinists can make an M4 from a block of aluminum. My guess is that we have the AR restricted based on looks, not function. As the AK is prohibited based on looks, not function.
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Here's how ridiculous it gets.
A few years ago a BB gun that could be bought in Canada was put on the prohibited list because a real good gunsmith could rebarrel it and convert it to an actual auto firearm.
Now of course it was lost on the RCMP that this would be so difficult...and that getting an actual AK across the border illegally would be much easier...but hey...it's Canada.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/replic...nada-1.1050388
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02-21-2017, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bobtodrick
Here's how ridiculous it gets.
A few years ago a BB gun that could be bought in Canada was put on the prohibited list because a real good gunsmith could rebarrel it and convert it to an actual auto firearm.
Now of course it was lost on the RCMP that this would be so difficult...and that getting an actual AK across the border illegally would be much easier...but hey...it's Canada.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/replic...nada-1.1050388
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Maybe you don't realize how easy it is to switch out a barrel, install a bolt in a BB gun, reinforce the receiver, and then convert it to auto.
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02-21-2017, 01:40 PM
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when they were picking prohibs they actually opened a book of firearms that existed at that point in time and selected them by looks and reputation of being a machine gun
exceptions where made based on different factors such as the valmet ak 47 was made non restricted because the Canadian government gave a bunch of them to the Inuit up north and didn't want to cause relation problems with them, so they got a special clause in the gun laws for themselves
if you want to pony up 5000$ you can have a legal non restricted ak47 in canada
if they redid it now (in 2017) with the same logic, many black rifles that exist today would also be prohib
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02-22-2017, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DukesArcher
To my mind, it is no different to the SKS in its semi-automatic configuration.
Surely law makers would not just ban it based on it's name/looks?
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There you go, rational thinking about what some yuppie back in the center of the universe is thinking wood be for the greater good for All of Canada.
Silly politicians.
Rob
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02-22-2017, 11:57 AM
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about what some yuppie back in the center of the universe is thinking wood be for the greater good for All of Canada.
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Always dangerous to assume benign intentions.
Consequences are seldom truly unintended,
and are more often the result of long and careful planning and incremental execution.
Good Luck, YMMV.
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