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There are people that do not have a particular agenda but there are also people who figure everything they do not like is fuelled by some sort of agenda or conspirecy .

As far as keeping track of deleted threads that would have no purpose as far as the forum goes .

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True, but it would be nice if posters could know why any of their threads are deleted. Offensive, immature arguing or name calling, moderators don't like it etc.


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Old 02-20-2017, 11:36 AM
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All this stuff about an election that is over with is weird in its self but I see very little about the Russians or any one else for that matter interfering in their election. I personally don't care who they elect to govern themselves, as my Dad used to say "we get the government we deserve"

But even the suspicion that a foreign government would try to manipulate their election, I thought would have them moving Heaven and Hell to get to the bottom of it, but there has been almost no reaction. Very strange.
100% agree. Obama stood by and watched the election being manipulated and did absolutely nothing about it. Wonder if Hillary is resentful at all? At least she's not the type to hold a grudge.
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Old 02-20-2017, 11:43 AM
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True, but it would be nice if posters could know why any of their threads are deleted. Offensive, immature arguing or name calling, moderators don't like it etc.


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Quite often I found that if a member PM'd and asked why they didn't like the answer anyway because they know why - the PM was more to complain than ask why
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Old 02-20-2017, 11:43 AM
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If people want this to be closed, all those 'Turdeau' threads would have to be closed as well and there will be constant fighting about censorship vs making fun of politics vs political discussions. It'll all lead to more fighting and probably people leaving.
Just open another thread with Trudeau memes for a laugh and everything will be fine, lots to be found

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Old 02-20-2017, 11:49 AM
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Quite often I found that if a member PM'd and asked why they didn't like the answer anyway because they know why - the PM was more to complain than ask why

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Point taken. I posted one the other day titled Different Perspective. My only Post was to post a newspaper headline. There were a few comments, then when I went check a few hours later how it was going, there it was gone. Now I wouldn't think it would be deleted because it posed a different perspective, so I was at a loss as to why it disappeared.


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Old 02-20-2017, 12:04 PM
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Would be nice to see Political threads go the way of religious threads. This is Alberta outdoors not Political Outdoors.

Or the next best thing would be no General section.

But then there are a few high count posters that wouldnt have anything to post!
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Old 02-20-2017, 01:05 PM
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Would be nice to see Political threads go the way of religious threads. This is Alberta outdoors not Political Outdoors.

Or the next best thing would be no General section.

But then there are a few high count posters that wouldnt have anything to post!
Politics has a way of affecting all our AO pursuits, so it's very relevant.
Take what is happening in regards to the Castle and Bighorn areas. Very politically driven and very relevant.

In today's world of special interest groups pushing their "Agenda" .....especially the anti-gun groups, the anti-hunting groups, the anti-safari groups, the anti-ATV groups, the anti-oil groups, to bury our heads in the sand is sure to have us suprised from behind.

Heck, there's even a bunch of anti-fishing and anti-boat groups.

Why I put anti-oil, in this mix???.....without the main industry in Alberta, there's not much Alberta, and not much outdoors activities when your sitting home with an empty gas tank and no money/job to afford the electric Truck.
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Old 02-20-2017, 01:12 PM
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The problem with hunting and fishing issues that involve politics is that many people cannot discuss them without ranting , insulting each other or generally keeping civil .

No solution can be brought on this or any other forum concerning those issues because the people who make the decisions or at least have an influence in the decision making are not part of those discussions because when they do log in , they are attacked on other issues by some members or just plain insulted and/ or threatened .
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Old 02-20-2017, 01:41 PM
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Threatened???.....suprised as doing that is really going too far, heated debate or not. We hear about some people (like the ones tied to safari pics) getting threats, but on here?

I guess it could be other threats, like legal or financial or such. I 'm sure CTire didn't like a recent thread....and the truth being published.

On second thought.....I guess it seems par for the course with what's going on out there.

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Old 02-20-2017, 02:31 PM
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I think it's pretty straight forward, if you think a subject is going to offend you, just don't go into that particular thread. Quite often I don't go into certain threads based on the title, or if I'm unsure, all I have to do is hover over the title and a small desript of the thread is shown. If I'm really uncertain, it's easy enough to read the OP then quietly leave if it isn't something I'm interested in pursuing further.

There was nothing offensive about the OP of this thread rather than some light hearted fun, no different than the many other threads bashing our political leaders of various parties.

People should be responsible for themselves.

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And now we have someone accusing differently abled people of being snowflakes. So sad. So sad.
That's a pretty common sentiment around here in political discussions, why is it so offensive when it's thrown right instead of left?
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:37 PM
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Everyone has an agenda. Otherwise you don't get out of bed.

Want to retire.....that's an agenda.
Want to pay off your mortgage....that's an agenda.
Post pics of your success and share......that's an agenda for your own reasons.

No agenda..no movement.

As for keeping track....it may actually show who has a particular agenda on here that may be more to destroy this forum than to be a AO member. We see what happens when the anti crowd targets people, or the Lugenpress concept.....to think they don't sign on here to attempt censorship/control is naive.

Maybe it's just my impression, but the number of threads getting deleted seems to be increasing.....
Just curious but in the 4 months you've been a member here how mucheck increase in deleted threads have you noticed?

Because I've noticed a downturn in deleted threads as we've gotten farther away from the election in the states.

I'm not sure censorship conspirators are hard at work at an outdoorsman forum ... not a lot of political weight thrown around here. I'd love to hear why you think so though
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:38 PM
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I think it's pretty straight forward, if you think a subject is going to offend you, just don't go into that particular thread. Quite often I don't go into certain threads based on the title, or if I'm unsure, all I have to do is hover over the title and a small desript of the thread is shown. If I'm really uncertain, it's easy enough to read the OP then quietly leave if it isn't something I'm interested in pursuing further.

There was nothing offensive about the OP of this thread rather than some light hearted fun, no different than the many other threads bashing our political leaders of various parties.

People should be responsible for themselves.



That's a pretty common sentiment around here in political discussions, why is it so offensive when it's thrown right instead of left?
So very true! Need a like button for this post.
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:55 PM
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Would be nice to see Political threads go the way of religious threads. This is Alberta outdoors not Political Outdoors.

Or the next best thing would be no General section.

But then there are a few high count posters that wouldnt have anything to post!
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True, but it would be nice if posters could know why any of their threads are deleted. Offensive, immature arguing or name calling, moderators don't like it etc.


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To add to Cat's comments (posts #33 & #38) ... don't get too concerned if one of your threads gets locked or deleted. The reasons are usually obvious, and the Mods are just doing their job. A thread of mine (Sweden) got deleted last night. With all the caustic comments and emotions running high, I could see it coming. One of the Mods eventually had to act. I didn't mind ... it's not worth getting upset over.

Also, I've found it much easier not to take things too seriously on this (and other) forums ... it's just not worth the grief. Far too many forum members get way to bent out of shape when they don't like what's being said, or they can't get their point accross, or an alternate view is offered. And some have trouble recognizing friendly sarcasm and humor. If you don't get caught in these traps, your forum experience will be much better.




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Old 02-20-2017, 03:50 PM
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To add to Cat's comments (post #33) ... don't get too concerned if one of your threads gets locked or deleted. The reasons are usually obvious, and the Mods are just doing their job. A thread of mine (Sweden) got deleted last night. With all the caustic comments and emotions running high, I could see it coming. One of the Mods eventually had to act. I didn't mind ... it's not worth getting upset over.



Also, I've found it much easier not to take things too seriously on this (and other) forums ... it's just not worth the grief. Far too many forum members get way to bent out of shape when they don't like what's being said, or they can't get their point accross, or an alternate view is offered. And some have trouble recognizing friendly sarcasm and humor. If you don't get caught in these traps, your forum experience will be much better.










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Nope, no offense taken toward the moderators. I think they do a great job! Hopefully participants in the threads can act with maturity and realize that many have different opinions. Calling someone names or belittling doesn't make their opinions any more correct or the only opinion, it only serves to show their adolescent.

As a point of interest, when I mentioned the thread I posted, the last time I looked at it it was pretty rational. Must have gone off the tracks shortly after. I'm sure the guilty ones know who they were and have learned to treat others with respect.


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Old 02-20-2017, 04:03 PM
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Which was the whole idea of the original post I think.
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A thread of mine (Sweden) got deleted last night. With all the caustic comments and emotions running high, I could see it coming. One of the Mods eventually had to act. I didn't mind ... it's not worth getting upset over.
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Old 02-20-2017, 04:16 PM
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It's all in fun! I just love how Trump can get the socialists and lefties stirred right up. Watching the left loving media cry and wine is out right comical. Best yet is listening to trump haters bash him and "melt" like snowflakes!!! Trump don't care and that's what makes it entertaining. He is just getting started too.
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The problem with hunting and fishing issues that involve politics is that many people cannot discuss them without ranting , insulting each other or generally keeping civil .

No solution can be brought on this or any other forum concerning those issues because the people who make the decisions or at least have an influence in the decision making are not part of those discussions because when they do log in , they are attacked on other issues by some members or just plain insulted and/ or threatened .
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Old 02-20-2017, 09:09 PM
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It's all in fun! I just love how Trump can get the socialists and lefties stirred right up. Watching the left loving media cry and wine is out right comical. Best yet is listening to trump haters bash him and "melt" like snowflakes!!! Trump don't care and that's what makes it entertaining. He is just getting started too.
Oh he cares, that's why he's still having late night twitter meltdowns himself
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Old 02-20-2017, 09:32 PM
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The fact remains that some legitimate points of discussion are deemed offensive. There is a real problem looming on the horizon and we are not allowed to discuss it. The real world is not a place for sensitive feelings, neither should this forum be.

See what Thomas Paine has to say about this below.

That said, I enjoy all the subjects brought up, particularly the firearms discussions. Some real knowledgeable people here.
I agree. It does seem random as to the why some get deleted and others don't.
This thread seems to agree with certain people, so it stays I guess. I personally found it funny, but would like some clarity and more consistency as to thread closures. I do like to read various opinions whether I agree with them or not. I have found a lot of threads get shut down when I didn't think they needed to.

Just my thoughts, laid bare for all to see.
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Old 02-20-2017, 09:39 PM
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I agree. It does seem random as to the why some get deleted and others don't.
This thread seems to agree with certain people, so it stays I guess. I personally found it funny, but would like some clarity and more consistency as to thread closures. I do like to read various opinions whether I agree with them or not. I have found a lot of threads get shut down when I didn't think they needed to.

Just my thoughts, laid bare for all to see.
Not random at all
It has nothing to do with a thread " agreeing with some people"
Threads getting deleted has far more to do with rules being broken not personal opinions , but this has been stated several times .
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Old 02-20-2017, 11:20 PM
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Could you explain how the thread about the Russian sub got locked? I don't think any forum rules were broken there?

Oh, and the one about getting your job back after being in jail?

Both were civil, and seemed to be locked unnecessarily.

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Could you explain how the thread about the Russian sub got locked? I don't think any forum rules were broken there?

Oh, and the one about getting your job back after being in jail?

Both were civil, and seemed to be locked unnecessarily.

Thank you.
Threads get closed for many reasons , some of those reasons are not always apperent to everybody .
The moderators are not going to start explaining our actions every time we do something
Maybe try to stay on the thread topic instead if deflecting to something you know nothing about
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Another Funny from Sweden.


https://www.rt.com/news/378142-swede...-rinkeby-fire/


Cars were set on fire, police were pelted with stones and civilians were beaten up as violent clashes broke out between rioters and law enforcement in the Stockholm district of Rinkeby on Monday night.

Police say seven or eight vehicles were torched in the suburb of Sweden’s capital following unrest in the area, which has a high immigrant population. It’s unclear if any immigrants were involved in the incident.

The violence was reportedly instigated after police arrested a wanted person at a metro station in Rinkeby at around 8pm. Police say between 30-50 people were involved in the disturbances.

Video footage from the night of destruction shows large crowds gathered and several cars engulfed in flames. Firefighters can also be seen tackling the blazing wrecks as strong winds whip flames in all directions.

A police officer was injured during the fracas, forcing law enforcement to fire several warning shots, according to Swedish public service broadcaster SVT.

No injuries were reported as a result of the shots.

Benjamin Dousa, a Moderate politician from Rinkeby, told Expressen.se that riots and car burnings are part of everyday life in the district.

“On average, we have one riot in the month, a car fire per day, and the most shootings across the country,”
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Threads get closed for many reasons , some of those reasons are not always apperent to everybody .
The moderators are not going to start explaining our actions every time we do something
Maybe try to stay on the thread topic instead if deflecting to something you know nothing about
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