Minimum Wage Revelations

[tri777]

Those workers are going to be so happy now with that $15 wage
increase..i'm certain Canada is fast behind the move.
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"..As minimum wage levels approach or surpass $15 nationwide, restaurant customers expecting to be greeted by a smiling face will instead be welcomed by a glowing LED screen.

As of 2020, self-service ordering kiosks will be implemented at all U.S. McDonald’s locations.."


https://www.forbes.com/sites/edrensi.../#77051f46f140

[WCTHEMI]

I highly doubt minimum wage earners will realize much benefit from the increase. They will just end up adding more to general revenue for the government of the day to waste frivolously.


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[^v^Tinda wolf^v^]

It’s so hard for young people starting out. I know I gambled my odds more than once making $8 an hour trying to keep a ruff over my head. Two years driving with no insurance becuase it was more than my rent etc etc,
Becuase I got it to give I don’t mind paying a bit more becuase I remember, been there and done that.

[tri777]

Originally Posted by WCTHEMI

I highly doubt minimum wage earners will realize much benefit from the increase. They will just end up adding more to general revenue for the government of the day to waste frivolously.

It's a basic scam this $15/hr thing, i keep hearing how employer's just
take from the waitress's tips pot (tip sharing) taking what she earned
rightfully & simply recoups costs by giving her proceeds to the cook/etc.

[Talking moose]

Originally Posted by WCTHEMI

They will just end up adding more to general revenue for the government

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The real reason for the increase.

[Trochu]

Isn't this already the case? Its been several months, if not over a year, since the last time I was in a McDonalds without a kiosk.

[fishtank]

Will do more harm then help the minimum wage earners. Hours cut or benefits cut? it’s starting at lot of places .

[expedition]

I think we should all boycott kiosks! I do!

[Bushleague]

Originally Posted by Talking moose

The real reason for the increase.

Exactly, if the government wanted to help minimum wage earners they would be taxing them less. Raising minimum wage is simply a way of collecting more taxes in the name of humanitarian ideals... it always has and always will be about creating revenue. Ever noticed that as government spending increases so does the frequency of the minimum wage hikes?

[chasingtail]

Big problem with a minimum wage, is those that are not worth or can't produce at least $15/hour of value for the company remain unemployed.

[260 Rem]

Sky is still up there despite the foreboding prophecy’s of some of AO’s leading o’pundits regarding the impact of minimum wage adjustments.

[caribou75]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Sky is still up there despite the foreboding prophecy’s of some of AO’s leading o’pundits regarding the impact of minimum wage adjustments.

I don't have many buddies, that make minimum wage, but those that do are very happy with the change. Its put more money in their pockets and no-one I know has had their hours cut - which sounds about right as restaurant receipts at an all time high. There are lots of minimum wage jobs that have no tips - I'm glad that my mother in law makes a couple more bucks an hour in her retail job.

The sky is falling rhetoric is just that. There's only so many times you can cry wolf about the minimum wage and the carbon tax as Alberta continues to have the fastest growing economy and highest wages in the country.

Automation is coming to all industries, got nothing to do with minimum wage. Just wait till Suncor fully implements their driverless trucks.

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Sky is still up there despite the foreboding prophecy’s of some of AO’s leading o’pundits regarding the impact of minimum wage adjustments.

The sky is still up there after two world wars, where millions of people died, so I guess that whether the sky falls or not is a good measure of whether something is good or bad for society.

[threeforthree]

My buzz cut, at Tommy Guns went from $10.50 to 17 bucks.

[CanuckShooter]

We should cut the minimum wage back to $2 bucks per day...what the heck do those people need money for. That's a good wage in Rwanda so why not here?

[Albertacoyotecaller]

No problem. First the minimum wage worker is gone and next the manager. I will not be looking at a kiosk trying to place an order.

[raab]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

Sky is still up there despite the foreboding prophecy’s of some of AO’s leading o’pundits regarding the impact of minimum wage adjustments.

While it's easy to say that everything is fine with this minimum wage hike. The truth is its hard to see the jobs that havent been created due to the raise in minimum wage. I would also argue when the minimum wage went up to around 8 dollars it started having an effect on the lower paid jobs. When did automated cashier machines come in? When did we see gas stations let the gas attendants go?

O and that's not to mention the price on tourist attractions now getting to the point a family can scarcely afford to go. When I was young I was quite the ski bum so got a job at a few ski hills. I made just under 6 bucks an hour and could survive quite easily. Also the price of ski passes for an adult was around 70 bucks at the time for Sunshine. The price of one pass now at Sunshine is 105 dollars. It's insane.

One last point, if we must have a minimum wage. Then the raises should be directly proportional to inflation. The minimum wage has far surpassed the cost of inflation over the last 15 years. Were looking at roughly a 300% increase in that time.

[roughneckin]

Originally Posted by raab

O and that's not to mention the price on tourist attractions now getting to the point a family can scarcely afford to go. When I was young I was quite the ski bum so got a job at a few ski hills. I made just under 6 bucks an hour and could survive quite easily. Also the price of ski passes for an adult was around 70 bucks at the time for Sunshine. The price of one pass now at Sunshine is 105 dollars. It's insane.

Even at $5.90/hour at FT one was only making $1000/month gross. The only way you had cash to go skiing often enough to be called a ski bum at that price was either you were living at home, bummed rides to the hill cause you weren’t paying insurance and fuel on a vehicle or were working so much OT or had a different job at $10/hour to supplement that or commited every dollar you made to it. Sounds like a great life if so, the only time I put that much time on akis was when I worked at a ski hill for $7/hr. The average person has no life at that point though and is looking for assistance from the government to make ends meet. Maybe you committed a lot of your income to skiing but single parents don’t have that possibility. Even when I was making that kinda cash I lived with 3 people in a house sharing rent and utilities it cost $400/month to cover my 3rd so I had $200 for food and bus passes to get to work and then had an extra $100 for random garbage. Sure didn’t go to retirement that’s for sure.

The cost of the ski passes inxcreased 33% and that’s related to the minimum wage increase somehow? No it’s inflation overall. Why has Jackson Hole increased the same amount if there minimum wage is $7.25? Corporations are gready it has nothing to do with minimum wage.

[raab]

Originally Posted by roughneckin

Even at $5.90/hour at FT one was only making $1000/month gross. The only way you had cash to go skiing often enough to be called a ski bum at that price was either you were living at home, bummed rides to the hill cause you weren’t paying insurance and fuel on a vehicle or were working so much OT or had a different job at $10/hour to supplement that or commited every dollar you made to it. Sounds like a great life if so, the only time I put that much time on akis was when I worked at a ski hill for $7/hr. The average person has no life at that point though and is looking for assistance from the government to make ends meet. Maybe you committed a lot of your income to skiing but single parents don’t have that possibility. Even when I was making that kinda cash I lived with 3 people in a house sharing rent and utilities it cost $400/month to cover my 3rd so I had $200 for food and bus passes to get to work and then had an extra $100 for random garbage. Sure didn’t go to retirement that’s for sure.

The cost of the ski passes inxcreased 33% and that’s related to the minimum wage increase somehow? No it’s inflation overall. Why has Jackson Hole increased the same amount if there minimum wage is $7.25? Corporations are gready it has nothing to do with minimum wage.

Minimum wage effects tourist type things like ski hills the most. A lot of the employees on ski hills make minimum wage and work there for the lifestyle. So when the minimum wage goes up it increases the prices on these things substantially. And the ticket price has gone up closer to 50% in that time frame. Has your wage increased 50%, let alone 300% in the last 15 years?

Also the ski hill provides lodging at a cheap rate, it also provides busing to and from work, as well as reciprocal passes to the other mountain resorts(free ski passes). It's very cheap to live in that sort of arrangement for 6 months as long as you have no debt.

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by raab

One last point, if we must have a minimum wage. Then the raises should be directly proportional to inflation. The minimum wage has far surpassed the cost of inflation over the last 15 years. Were looking at roughly a 300% increase in that time.

No. In fact, all wages have remained pretty stagnant, adjusted for inflation.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3531614/a...nada-stagnant/

in addition, corporate profits have increased significantly, while wages have not kept up.

http://www.talenteconomy.io/2017/12/...ant-4-reasons/