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07-07-2018, 02:25 PM
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7 nm STW loads
I’ve worked up a load with the 140 grain nosler ballistic tips and it shoots great however I wanna take this rig for an upcoming elk hunt and I don’t think that bullet is upto the task. The nosler accubond seems to be the same bc and sd. Would a simple switch to this bullet be the answer for elk ? I also have some 139grain hornady interlocks which I don’t think will hold together as well either. It shoots the ballistic tips into .3 if inch and I hate to switch but I feel I need something a little stouter for elk. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with these mentioned bullets on elk ? Will they fail on shoulder shots is the big concern. Or should I be looking towards heavier 160 -175 grainers for elk in this cartridge? Any andvice or load from the STW Owners is appreciated.
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07-07-2018, 02:27 PM
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I would think the 140’s would be great for elk, especially at STW velocities.
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07-07-2018, 02:42 PM
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There is no way I would consider using a ballistic tip on an elk, especially at those speeds.
In a 7mm stw, and for elk, a 160 partition would be more than suitable
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07-07-2018, 02:51 PM
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I have been shooting the 7mmstw for over 30 years, and I have taken several dozen big game animals with the cartridge. While the 140gr Ballistic Tip and Accubond work great for deer sized game, the 140-150gr TTSX is my favorite bullet for this cartridge, and it is now the only bullet that I load for my current rifle. All of my 7mmstw rifles shoot the TTSX accurately, and it expands well at 7mmstw velocity, and it smashes through bone.
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07-07-2018, 06:22 PM
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My vote would be for the 150gr TTSX. Hard to beat at those velocities if your rifle shoots them well.
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07-07-2018, 09:35 PM
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If it were me I would go up to a 160 accubond. I haven't shot one with these bullets myself but they just simply crumple elk at "normal ranges.
Also,the ones that I know work are 180 bergers,and 175 game kings.
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07-07-2018, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Powder monkey
If it were me I would go up to a 160 accubond. I haven't shot one with these bullets myself but they just simply crumple elk at "normal ranges.
Also,the ones that I know work are 180 bergers,and 175 game kings.
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I used a 7 STW exclusively for 15 or so years and can certainly vouch for a 160 Accubond. They did it all.
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07-08-2018, 08:13 AM
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When I had mine I ran 140gr Barnes X....other conventional bullets acted like a varmint bullet especially if I touched bone....man that thing sure burnt the powder....a beauty mule deer ran up a coulee out into a butte 200 yards...touched off a Texas heart shot....the little pill ran the entire length of the deer and exited out the shoulder...when I found him in the scope he was piled up...what a beauty of a buck
Good luck load developing...range time was felt the next day
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07-08-2018, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 58thecat
When I had mine I ran 140gr Barnes X....other conventional bullets acted like a varmint bullet especially if I touched bone....man that thing sure burnt the powder....a beauty mule deer ran up a coulee out into a butte 200 yards...touched off a Texas heart shot....the little pill ran the entire length of the deer and exited out the shoulder...when I found him in the scope he was piled up...what a beauty of a buck
Good luck load developing...range time was felt the next day
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What rifle did you own? I find all of my 7mmstw rifles pleasant to shoot, but all have McMillan stocks with Decellerator pads.
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07-08-2018, 09:38 AM
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What rifle did you own? I find all of my 7mmstw rifles pleasant to shoot, but all have McMillan stocks with Decellerator pads.
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I had a Remington factory 7mm STW Sendero in the late 90's when Remington was dipping their toes in the calibre. It was unmanageable, I didn't have a brake on it but it was mind numbing to shoot after 3 shoots. I had many try and after a round or two they responded with no thanks.
I now have a 7mm STW custom build in an MDT Chassis with a ATRS brake and this thing recoils less than my 7mm08. I can drop 60 rounds out of this one no problem,
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07-08-2018, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jayhad
I had a Remington factory 7mm STW Sendero in the late 90's when Remington was dipping their toes in the calibre. It was unmanageable, I didn't have a brake on it but it was mind numbing to shoot after 3 shoots. I had many try and after a round or two they responded with no thanks.
I now have a 7mm STW custom build in an MDT Chassis with a ATRS brake and this thing recoils less than my 7mm08. I can drop 60 rounds out of this one no problem,
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A Sendero unmanageable? Mind numbing? You must be very recoil sensitive if a heavy rifle like a Sendero bothers you that much in 7mmstw.
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07-08-2018, 10:20 AM
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A Sendero unmanageable? Mind numbing? You must be very recoil sensitive if a heavy rifle like a Sendero bothers you that much in 7mmstw.
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The parent cartridge - 8mm Remington Mag, had a bad reputation for recoil when it was introduced. Nowadays with stout handloads, proper stock design and quality recoil pads, it's not too bad to shoot.
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07-08-2018, 10:34 AM
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The parent cartridge - 8mm Remington Mag, had a bad reputation for recoil when it was introduced. Nowadays with stout handloads, proper stock design and quality recoil pads, it's not too bad to shoot.
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I owned an 8mmremmag, definitely more recoil, and my 338x8mm remmag a bit more yet, but the 7mmstw, is not in their class recoil wise. The 7mmstw with 140-150gr bullets is comparable to a 300winmag shooting 150- 165gr bullets recoil wise. I actually gave up on the 300RUM, and went back to the 7mmstw, because it produces so much less recoil.
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07-08-2018, 11:58 AM
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Anyone ever try the 160 grain federal premium trophy bonded tip loads?
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07-08-2018, 12:14 PM
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Anyone ever try the 160 grain federal premium trophy bonded tip loads?
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With a muzzle velocity of only 3100fps, why shoot a 7mmstw? I can get that velocity with a 7mmremmag.
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07-08-2018, 12:43 PM
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I have a custom 7mm STW built on a Rem 700. Shoots 160gr Accubonds at 1/2" but I have yet to try it on game.
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07-08-2018, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elkhunter11
What rifle did you own? I find all of my 7mmstw rifles pleasant to shoot, but all have McMillan stocks with Decellerator pads.
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Mine was a custom built on a Winchester action, 26 inch barrel, no break dropped into a McMillan stock, I ran her hot and she bucked like a mule and after about 10 rounds down the pipe at the range I had enough, thank god she was accurate and only needed a few shots prior to season to verify point of impact. This was back in The 90's prior to the round getting commercialized.
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07-08-2018, 01:33 PM
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This one is custom pre 64 win all blueprinted and trued up with a new bobby hart barrel and a brake. Dropped into a custom stock with a new nightforce on it. The groups at 600 yards confirm this rifles capability. This was a late friends rifle for 25 years and he left me load data. I have other rifles that will thump elk to. But this one has sentiment.
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07-09-2018, 08:10 AM
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Gonna go with the 160 accubonds in this one
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