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03-28-2019, 11:40 PM
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Garage wood stove ideas
After this past winter and the 6 weeks of -30 and lower temps, the NG bill was for both the house and the shop quite a shock..
The decision has been made to install a wood stove in the garage. I'm thinking of going with the Drolet Spark which should be more than enough for my garage..(24'x24' with 10' walls)
However, I'm stumped as to where to place it as I want to maintain as much working space as possible without taking up too much room. Any suggestions or thoughts?
I want to get this right the first time...
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03-29-2019, 12:57 AM
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Can't help you with the actual build but did want to mention the Insurance side of it.
I know there is certain criteria that is required in order for it to pass, and depending on the insurance company, they may want to send someone out to inspect and verify the work, or increase your premium, or you may have an aggressive company that might refuse to insure your belongings due to the stove.
Might want to look into that and factor that in as well.
Best of luck with your build!
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03-29-2019, 04:49 AM
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Yeah, ballpark figure but your gonna loose 16sq ft plus stove dimensions, but I’m sure things vary from bc code.
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03-29-2019, 05:44 AM
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Gonna be a pain in the rear in a space that small.
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03-29-2019, 08:44 AM
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Ideally, in the center of the garage. Put mine, same size building, in a convenient corner, a fan makes a big difference.
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03-29-2019, 09:22 AM
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I meet a lot of farmers in my line of work, walked into a large rectangle shop one time. A huge horizontal cylinder wood stove was roaring. The guy was feeding it very large and long trunks of trees. Heated that shop like nothing.
Had to come back a year later for another claim, wood stove gone. He could not get/afford the insurance if he kept it. Insurance seems to be a real kicker with wood stoves from what I hear.
Seen some sweet coal systems on some farms. Heat house and shops with it.
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03-29-2019, 10:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooner
I meet a lot of farmers in my line of work, walked into a large rectangle shop one time. A huge horizontal cylinder wood stove was roaring. The guy was feeding it very large and long trunks of trees. Heated that shop like nothing.
Had to come back a year later for another claim, wood stove gone. He could not get/afford the insurance if he kept it. Insurance seems to be a real kicker with wood stoves from what I hear.
Seen some sweet coal systems on some farms. Heat house and shops with it.
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Insurance companies differ, has to be installed to code as well, this one doesn't sound like it. Seen a couple like you describe, usually home built.
Grizz
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03-29-2019, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
Insurance companies differ, has to be installed to code as well, this one doesn't sound like it. Seen a couple like you describe, usually home built.
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It was home built.
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03-29-2019, 06:42 PM
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This may be totally off-topic so forgive me if it is. I used to work on the coast and on many of boats/ships I often saw diesel heaters. I was always impressed with how much heat they chucked with such a small unit. They've always captured my imagination for small profile heaters for modest spaces that would maintain maximum space conservation. Have no idea whether these could be used in a garage, so I may be way out to lunch. Dickinson was a common brand.
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03-29-2019, 07:26 PM
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When I looked into it for my garage it was way too much to get put in then they wanted to up my insurance by 20% as well.
The stipulations they had for garage on top of their residential rules were.
-The stove had to be protected so a vehicle could not hit it, the idea they mentioned was sinking pipe into the cement pad and filling those with cement.
-The stove had to be on at least an 18" riser so flammable heavier than air gasses couldn't ignite.???
-No gasoline or other flamable chemicals could be stored in garage.
This was a Wawanesa agent I was talking to.
I also, have a friend who's dad had a huge shop. Set up with all types of equipment. He had a really nicely built homemade heater. The shop burned down and insurance didn't cover a dime.
Tread cautiously.
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03-29-2019, 08:03 PM
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My insurance broker told me that my insurance company would not cover my garage if it burned and if it happened to catch my house or my neighbors house I would be liable for that too. I have been heating my garage with an old wood stove made from a 30" length of 20" pipe . I am also running a plasma table and a welding shop in there at the same time. I will eventually switch to a gas furnace I suppose ,but for now I am just very careful. Only run the stove when I am working in there.
I also know that insurance companies only pay when they can't wiggle out of it,so I don't ever expect much from those weasels.
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04-08-2019, 04:22 PM
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My insurance broker told me i'd have an extra $375 premium with a wood stove, just adding up the carbon fees on the gas bills to see if its worth it.
Anybody here put a wood stove in their house recently know what it cost them for the stove and WETT install?
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04-17-2019, 09:11 AM
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Shop heat
I know of several people that use a pellet stove for shop heat. Not sure how their insurance is affected, but all of them had wood heaters previously. Perhaps worth investigating.
CranePete
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04-17-2019, 09:43 AM
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I recently put a wood stove in my detached garage. Permitting was quick and painless as I provided detailed drawings. Called the insurance broker and added $150/yr to the premiums after submitting the plans and pictures. Small questionnaire to fill out as well. Built the base in order to get the 18” minimum height to bottom of the fire box (code for wood appliances in shops in Airdrie), cut the hole in the roof, installed stove and piping, and had an inspection complete in one day. I also have a radiant heater in there so the stove is just for those cold days but I did notice a difference in my gas bill.
Matt
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04-17-2019, 10:29 AM
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04-17-2019, 01:27 PM
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I have a small wood stove in my garage, it is 24 x 24 and I love it, I'm looking at moving and getting a shop at least as big (hopefully much bigger) and it will be the first thing I add.
It doesn't hurt to have an endless supply of free fire would though...
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04-17-2019, 03:10 PM
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I have been watching videos on Mass Rocket heaters. Same principle as Rocket stoves to generate heat, and that heat heats up cobb to the point that the cobb will radiate heat for 24-36 hours from one 30 minute fire. This method was developed for 3rd world countries
JH
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04-17-2019, 03:12 PM
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On a side note, M@G, is that a stolen road sign? On the interweb for all to see?
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04-17-2019, 03:23 PM
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Haha Good eye James, bro in law works for the city roads and development and got it when big hill Springs road changed to yankee valley blv.
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04-18-2019, 12:52 PM
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Consider looking at a cast iron upright that is brick lined. Not big and bulky. I had one in my garage and it was great. The beauty is you can burn just wood or also add lump coal. Fully stoked and properly damped down with coal the heat will last hours before you have to stoke up again. pic 1
If you look at old cast iron brooder stoves that you burn coal or wood they even have a built in thermostat you can adjust. Fill with coal and its good for 12 hours. pic 2. You can adjust the mechanical thermostat for certain temps.
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04-18-2019, 06:05 PM
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I put a wood stove in my shop and in my garage attached to the barn. The insurance company didn’t care. They said they classify buildings as heated or non heated, didn’t matter where the heat came from. I had to supply lots of pics, and measurements of wall distance. And raise it 19” off the floor, but I was going to do that anyway. They were also very happy that there were no stove pipe joints in the attic.
My premium went up very little. Same as adding a gas furnace. I believe I’m with Wawanesa.
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04-18-2019, 06:21 PM
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If your buying a wood stove I would recommend a blaze king. Not cheap to buy, but a great stove. I have one in my house
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04-18-2019, 06:39 PM
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Perhaps off topic, but what are thoughts on an outside furnace? Is there the same insurance implications? Recently came into a small acreage and have a fireplace in the house but I was thinking on feeding two outbuildings with this type of burner. Is that feasible?
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04-18-2019, 06:48 PM
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When I bought my house the garage had an old 40000btu furnace in it, my garage is 20x22. It heats my garage in 4 minutes from -10c to 35c. Had it for 15 years.
Why not find an old furnace off of Kijiji?
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04-19-2019, 10:43 PM
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If it were me I would use a homehardware air tight . Cheap. With the thin metal heat escapes quickly and would heat quicker. Then install a ceiling fan to blow it down.
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04-19-2019, 11:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CranePete
I know of several people that use a pellet stove for shop heat. Not sure how their insurance is affected, but all of them had wood heaters previously. Perhaps worth investigating.
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I used a Trager Pellet Furnace to heat my home on Bridge Lake for 16 years - I liked it way BETTER then the Wood stove that was in the house prevously ! Very EFFICENT heating system and Very Clean too ! RJ
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04-20-2019, 12:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jay007
I have a small wood stove in my garage, it is 24 x 24 and I love it, I'm looking at moving and getting a shop at least as big (hopefully much bigger) and it will be the first thing I add.
It doesn't hurt to have an endless supply of free fire would though...
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You wouldn't happen to live in Akinsdale, would you?
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