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174 3/8. But i am guessing the pics don't do it justice.
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155 on the first one. 145 plus some junk.
149" on ab's, Gains spread credit but loses on almost everything else...freakzilla!
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155 on the first one. 145 plus some junk.
149" on ab's, Gains spread credit but loses on almost everything else...freakzilla!
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Spread credit will only go as high as longest main beam. It looks like one of those bucks where score won't do it justice. I'm gonna say 148 gross on that one.
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Since we've got another in the mix , ill throw up the numbers. Some of you guys are very good guessers.... LOL
RS 23 1/8 LS 23 2/8 Spread 17 7/8
4 3/8 4 7/8
11 6/8 11 4/8
10 9 7/8
2 2/8 3 2/8 Extras 8 7/8
4 7/8 5
4 4/8 4 4/8
4 4/8 4 6/8
4 5/8 3 7/8
Total gross 167 4/8
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Not even close
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Spread credit will only go as high as longest main beam. .
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Hi Kurt, that's true when calculating net scores.
Spread credit when we are guessing gross scores counts toward total inches regardless of beam length or width.
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My usual method is to underscore by 5 to 10" of what I "think" it should score. It seems that 150" is the breaking point for most people for a deer to be "bigger than" or "smaller than".
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158 on the second one
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152 6/8 AlbertaWhitetail
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Lot of stuff going on there, interesting set,
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Hi Kurt, that's true when calculating net scores.
Spread credit when we are guessing gross scores counts toward total inches regardless of beam length or width.
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Yup, I guess you're correct. It's like adding abnormals to the gross score when actually the are not added at all, but subtracted from the gross typical score. I always just add in the abnormals for the gross score.
These are a couple misconceptions people have when walking into a horn scoring night, and walking out with their ego somewhat bruised. Some very impressive looking bucks don't come close to book, while some spindly less impressive bucks make it. I often wish there was a volume scoring system where each side of the antler was dipped into water and the total volume displacement is your score.
Could you imagine having a buck that scores 3675ml!!!
Here's one such buck where the score doesn't come close to the awe factor
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Love wide bucks like that. 155 3/8
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These are a couple misconceptions people have when walking into a horn scoring night, and walking out with their ego somewhat bruised. Some very impressive looking bucks don't come close to book, while some spindly less impressive bucks make it.
Very true, b&c puts alot of value on length and symmetry and you pay dearly sometimes with net scores.
Score it SCI or use gross scoring if it floats your boat to have a big number.
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Any guesses on this buck?
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164 gross
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[QUOTE=flyguyd;2666142]Since we've got another in the mix , ill throw up the numbers. Some of you guys are very good guessers.... LOL
RS 23 1/8 LS 23 2/8 Spread 17 7/8
4 3/8 4 7/8
11 6/8 11 4/8
10 9 7/8
2 2/8 3 2/8 Extras 8 7/8
4 7/8 5
4 4/8 4 4/8
4 4/8 4 6/8
4 5/8 3 7/8
Total gross 167 4/8[/QUOTE
So to be clear if this is for learning. This is a 158 5/8 gross typical and a 167 4/8 nontypical which it would not be scored as. So after deductions it would net in the high 140's. Boone and crocket is based off of net not gross so the bench mark of 170 all time an 160 awards isn't really applicable to gross scores as a referance.
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[QUOTE=Stinkhammer;2666489]
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Since we've got another in the mix , ill throw up the numbers. Some of you guys are very good guessers.... LOL
RS 23 1/8 LS 23 2/8 Spread 17 7/8
4 3/8 4 7/8
11 6/8 11 4/8
10 9 7/8
2 2/8 3 2/8 Extras 8 7/8
4 7/8 5
4 4/8 4 4/8
4 4/8 4 6/8
4 5/8 3 7/8
Total gross 167 4/8[/QUOTE
So to be clear if this is for learning. This is a 158 5/8 gross typical and a 167 4/8 nontypical which it would not be scored as. So after deductions it would net in the high 140's. Boone and crocket is based off of net not gross so the bench mark of 170 all time an 160 awards isn't really applicable to gross scores as a referance.
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Quite right. But. For those of us that talk of gross score in terms of total inches the deer grew on his head the number is 167 and change.
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Quite right. But. For those of us that talk of gross score in terms of total inches the deer grew on his head the number is 167 and change.[/QUOTE]
I agree but this shouldn't be in reference to the 160 and 170 references of boone and crocket. People will say 'I shot a 167 whitetail' which would sound like it is just shy on the all time boone and crocket record books when in reality it is a 140' class deer.
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I agree but this shouldn't be in reference to the 160 and 170 references of boone and crocket. People will say 'I shot a 167 whitetail' which would sound like it is just shy on the all time boone and crocket record books when in reality it is a 140' class deer.
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Truth be told, the difference between a 140" buck and a 170" buck sometimes can only be noticed with a tape.
I have 160 class (measured) bucks that are smaller than my 150 (measured) class bucks if you want to look at it that way, but that's not the actual "class" their in, in some cases.
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