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probably more petroleum goes into making the plastic stuff on his tractor than goes into the fertilizer he is spreading....
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I can't say for sure Hal. But fertilizer is bought at the bulk station and is dependant on the price of a barrel of oil as to how much a ton of fertilizer is. Never seen one before but fertilizer$100000 fertilizer bills are not unheard of.
If you've ever been to a farm yard look at the tank stands and see if anything grows there.
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I can't say for sure Hal. But fertilizer is bought at the bulk station and is dependant on the price of a barrel of oil as to how much a ton of fertilizer is. Never seen one before but fertilizer$100000 fertilizer bills are not unheard of.
If you've ever been to a farm yard look at the tank stands and see if anything grows there.
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true, my post was tongue in cheek, a huge amount of things we use everyday are made from petroleum based products....
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If an itty bitty of a man made oil spill is so bad that half the world gets his panty's in a not over it then why do these same dorks get their panty's in a knot when people are doing their best to clean up a huge natural oil spill like the Tar sands ?
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Good question bison. The history of the tar sands goes back many moons. From what I've read is that oil has been running into the river since Christ was a cowboy. Indians used it to waterproof their canoes.
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true, my post was tongue in cheek, a huge amount of things we use everyday are made from petroleum based products....
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Sorry Hal I missed that. Will pay closer attention. Lol
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For the record I am well aware that everything we use wear drive is made from or made possible by petroleum products . I just find it weird when there is a spill that some take it so lightly . I guess it's the day and age we live in . If we wreck it we can always make more of it .... most of the time.
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It's not about making another with me it's about yes we can clean it up, and yes I'm a landowner. So clean it up perfect and we got no issues, not perfect now I'm upset.
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Very few of the respondents in this thread don't feel that a spill is of any concern? Whats your address so I can drop by a load of contaminated oil on your front lawn for you and your family to play in. F'n ridiculous the lack of care or education that permeates a site that supposedly supports hunting/fishing.
The almost bi-monthly reported spills and releases in this province are making the masses apathetic. I shudder to think of all the unreported botches.
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Very few of the respondents in this thread don't feel that a spill is of any concern? Whats your address so I can drop by a load of contaminated oil on your front lawn for you and your family to play in. F'n ridiculous the lack of care or education that permeates a site that supposedly supports hunting/fishing.
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Thank you for your response....don't think Anyone said it is no concern????, but it is not the doomsday the media loves to play it up to be so uninformed people can suck it up like a Hoover and become instant "experts!"
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Man I saw a 2000bbl or 320m3 capacity tank get split 2/3 of the way down the side and spill around 100m3. Most of it was cleaned up in 10 days and the rest over the next few weeks as the snow melted. Would not have a clue by the end of the cleanup.
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I never once said it wasn't a concern or not a problem . I just said it will create jobs.
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Very few of the respondents in this thread don't feel that a spill is of any concern? Whats your address so I can drop by a load of contaminated oil on your front lawn for you and your family to play in. F'n ridiculous the lack of care or education that permeates a site that supposedly supports hunting/fishing.
The almost bi-monthly reported spills and releases in this province are making the masses apathetic. I shudder to think of all the unreported botches.
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It is telling, how lightly those in the industry take a spill.
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It is telling, how lightly those in the industry take a spill.
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tells you what???, pray tell??????
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Man I saw a 2000bbl or 320m3 capacity tank get split 2/3 of the way down the side and spill around 100m3. Most of it was cleaned up in 10 days and the rest over the next few weeks as the snow melted. Would not have a clue by the end of the cleanup.
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I know of at least one shut down well site near Brooks that is still not clean, even though it is now in its eighth year with at least 2.5 million spent.
You sure there is nothing left? Hydrocarbons have a strange way of being persistent.
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I know of at least one shut down well site near Brooks that is still not clean, even though it is now in its eighth year with at least 2.5 million spent.
You sure there is nothing left? Hydrocarbons have a strange way of being persistent.
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persistent?, how so???
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In 2012, over 474 billion gallons of crude oil and petroleum products were carried by pipeline. Just .0005 percent of that haul was spilled — that’s another 99.999 percentage success rate.
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As much production that this province has there is going to be spills, agreed saltwater is way worse. Oil looks bad but way easier to clean up, I've been in the oilfield 24 years and seen lots. Repair, cleaner up and move on.
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location location location.... companies and people generally only care when the spill affects some ones back yard.
I am surprised anyone in slave lake would care. The lowlands by the cnrl processing plant are littered with vac truck dumps and all sorts of oil slicks.
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persistent?, how so???
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Meaning if one doesn't get it all, it seeps, in this case ground water. It's been an ugly scene, and I suspect that particular well may not end up in the profit side of the ledger when it is finally over.
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Meaning if one doesn't get it all, it seeps, in this case ground water. It's been an ugly scene, and I suspect that particular well may not end up in the profit side of the ledger when it is finally over.
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got a location number?, I can check it out in about 3 mins....
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slave lake doesnt seem to have much luck lately !!
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slave lake doesnt seem to have much luck lately !!
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I will save u some typing, what r u selling???
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got a location number?, I can check it out in about 3 mins....
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Nope. But I will be near it in about six weeks when I get back from the States visiting friends.
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Nope. But I will be near it in about six weeks when I get back from the States visiting friends.
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It's a long walk back, eh?
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It's a long walk back, eh?
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It's a long walk back, eh?
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Yeah, that wind driven sailboat doesn't do so well on asphalt.
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Yeah, that wind driven sailboat doesn't do so well on asphalt.
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For all you foreigners living in Alberta because there is an oil industry.
There will be accidents that happen. And the accidents will be dealt with.
If you are unable to handle this problem Go back to where you came from.
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For all you foreigners living in Alberta because there is an oil industry.
There will be accidents that happen. And the accidents will be dealt with.
If you are unable to handle this problem Go back to where you came from.
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Dad? Dad?
Is it you on AO forum?
Lmao kidding but sounds like the old man
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For all you foreigners living in Alberta because there is an oil industry.
There will be accidents that happen. And the accidents will be dealt with.
If you are unable to handle this problem Go back to where you came from.
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just what is the time limit to get your citizenship in Alberta
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