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01-08-2014, 01:06 PM
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fishing in chinooks
hi all heading out this weekend looks like a Chinook will be blowing in I never seem to do well on these kind of days what do you guys do in these conditions.do you fish deeper /shallow/slower.
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01-08-2014, 04:25 PM
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We haven't caught anything on chinook days either! Wonder if there is a scientiic explanation for this. I'm a biologist but I have no idea! We even got skunked on Pine Coulee it's always windy too on these days so have to pile snow around the shack.
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01-08-2014, 04:44 PM
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we always find the nicest days for the fishermen & women
are the crappiest days fishing. lol
not much luck during Chinooks here either. pressure change maybe??
orv.
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01-08-2014, 04:48 PM
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Try fishing deeper.
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01-08-2014, 05:48 PM
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Swing a streamer!
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01-08-2014, 06:02 PM
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I have slow bites during chinooks too. chinooks bring low barro pressures. but ive found low pressures or a drop in pressure to be good for fishing, except during chinooks... weird
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01-08-2014, 06:08 PM
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though only tested twice on the same lake,, I discovered by fluke, that the fish hit immediately below the ice in 12 fow,, so near the surface during a chinook. I have some theories as to why, but they're boring.
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01-08-2014, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gust
though only tested twice on the same lake,, I discovered by fluke, that the fish hit immediately below the ice in 12 fow,, so near the surface during a chinook. I have some theories as to why, but they're boring.
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You have my attention
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01-08-2014, 08:33 PM
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I think the ice acts like the skin of a drum,,, when the wind is hauling it pushes down upon the whole lake which if even a mm compression from above, would cause incredible water pressure below and then released pressure, which in turn must be hell on a fish. Kinda like if we went up and down in an elevator that was really fast and how our ear drums would feel.
The two last time on the lake were very chinooky,, I fished my usual 12 fow, at the bottom nothing,, at the top of the column, it was a steady bite.
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01-08-2014, 08:40 PM
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3 of us fishing Payne Lake today in chinook wind,caught one trout in 4hrs.
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01-08-2014, 08:42 PM
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I never catch anything anyways whatever the weather might be so absolutely no change for me........works for my tan though when its nice so thats a bonus!!!!!
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01-08-2014, 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gust
I think the ice acts like the skin of a drum,,, when the wind is hauling it pushes down upon the whole lake which if even a mm compression from above, would cause incredible water pressure below and then released pressure, which in turn must be hell on a fish. Kinda like if we went up and down in an elevator that was really fast and how our ear drums would feel.
The two last time on the lake were very chinooky,, I fished my usual 12 fow, at the bottom nothing,, at the top of the column, it was a steady bite.
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Makes sense...
I'm assuming for trout or whites?
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01-08-2014, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Reel Deal
Makes sense...
I'm assuming for trout or whites?
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pike,,, but you know,,, last year the trout were way up the column at chain lakes, around 3 thru 4 feet below the ice in 14 fow on a killer Chinook day. nothing all day fishing near bottom, so every so often we raised our bait and then voila, bite-bite-bite and some nice sized ones for there.
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01-09-2014, 12:40 AM
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The tail end of a chinook can be pretty good, say the 3rd day...if your looking for Walleye find the deepest water in the system up too 40' or so. Rip rattle baits or spoons off the bottom and keep moving, drill lots of holes you'll get'em!!
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01-09-2014, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Moefoe
The tail end of a chinook can be pretty good, say the 3rd day...if your looking for Walleye find the deepest water in the system up too 40' or so. Rip rattle baits or spoons off the bottom and keep moving, drill lots of holes you'll get'em!!
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If you bring walleye up from 40' they die.
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01-09-2014, 06:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gust
I think the ice acts like the skin of a drum,,, when the wind is hauling it pushes down upon the whole lake which if even a mm compression from above, would cause incredible water pressure below and then released pressure, which in turn must be hell on a fish. Kinda like if we went up and down in an elevator that was really fast and how our ear drums would feel.
The two last time on the lake were very chinooky,, I fished my usual 12 fow, at the bottom nothing,, at the top of the column, it was a steady bite.
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fished a crazy wind one time with another member, the wind was making whirlpools that went down 3 or 4 feet in the holes, maybe the commotion attracts the pike? likely brings some baitfish up too.
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01-09-2014, 06:57 AM
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Packed my gear last night and got up early today with a view towards my first ice fishing trip this season. Looked at my barometer and discovered that the Chinook winds that southern Alberta is experiencing have not only brought milder temperatures to this region; the barometric pressure has dropped to a seasonal low of 29.2inHg (99kPa) and 'gusterlies' forecast for the next 5 days. Rats. No fishing.
The only thing I ever caught during a west wind was a guys lawn chair, complete with a rod and a baggy of Niblets, as it blew across Chain Lake towards me.
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01-09-2014, 08:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gust
I think the ice acts like the skin of a drum,,, when the wind is hauling it pushes down upon the whole lake which if even a mm compression from above, would cause incredible water pressure below and then released pressure, which in turn must be hell on a fish. Kinda like if we went up and down in an elevator that was really fast and how our ear drums would feel.
The two last time on the lake were very chinooky,, I fished my usual 12 fow, at the bottom nothing,, at the top of the column, it was a steady bite.
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I think the water pressure would be quickly dissipated in the water column and equalize relatively rapidly (fluid dynamics), however, I like where you are going with this theory, the movement of the ice (through contraction and/or wind) may create some harmonic turbulence or resonance throughout the water column driving fish away from these areas - either shallower or deeper.
I just made that up - but it sounds good.
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01-09-2014, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Moefoe
The tail end of a chinook can be pretty good, say the 3rd day...if your looking for Walleye find the deepest water in the system up too 40' or so. Rip rattle baits or spoons off the bottom and keep moving, drill lots of holes you'll get'em!!
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40FOW is a guarantee the walley will die.
Should actually be a rule against fishing walleye deeper than 25FOW Please don't fish walleye at 40 FOW
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01-09-2014, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TROLLER
40FOW is a guarantee the walley will die.
Should actually be a rule against fishing walleye deeper than 25FOW Please don't fish walleye at 40 FOW
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I didn't know that...they were all in good shape when we slid them back down the hole. Well I guess that's the end of that little honey hole!!
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01-09-2014, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moefoe
I didn't know that...they were all in good shape when we slid them back down the hole. Well I guess that's the end of that little honey hole!!
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Just so you know how / what happens... Put it in perspective similar to how humans get the bends coming up from scuba diving. ALL Fish in 30 FOW or deeper are experiencing different water pressures. Bringing them up from 30+ is essentially pulling them into less pressure and their bladders and organs will basically expand like a balloon and pop because they are used to higher pressured waters. If you do have an incidental hook up in that 30 FOW range. Try your best to bring them up as slowly as possible. The golden rule is dont fish deeper than 25ft. This leaves a little bit of grace room as there is no set depth where the pressure change becomes fatal.
Trout are the exception because they have the ability to expel gas from their bodies in order to equal the pressure as they are brought up. In some youtube videos of big lakers being caught in ontario, they get them to the hole and you can actually see them expelling the gas under the ice. So that is why you see people talk about catching trout at spray over 100ft deep.
Cause knowledge is power......
Last edited by Dan Foss; 01-09-2014 at 01:32 PM.
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