CIL Anschutz .22 model 310

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by hal53

Hey Cat,,, mine is the $900.00 one it doesn't look anything like that one, I think the pic is a 190????

Nope, the 190 is a single shot 64 action in a match rifle stock.
the 180 is the same action in a sporting class stock.
The are charicterized by the right hand safety on the side of the stock, much like a Remington 700 action has.
the 54 action ( a much higher quality action) has a wing safety much like a mauser
The rifle in the pic is a 125.
BTW, I have seen 54's go for $900, and the occasional 64MS, but NEVER a 310!!
They simply are not worth that much.

Cat

[hal53]

SIGH!!!! allright...mine is way nicer than posted,, what is for a trade????

[Matt L.]

I thought it looked rather different than mine.

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Nope, the 190 is a single shot 64 action in a match rifle stock.
the 180 is the same action in a sporting class stock.
The are charicterized by the right hand safety on the side of the stock, much like a Remington 700 action has.
the 54 action ( a much higher quality action) has a wing safety much like a mauser
The rifle in the pic is a 125.
BTW, I have seen 54's go for $900, and the occasional 64MS, but NEVER a 310!!
They simply are not worth that much.

Cat

Confirmed? Model 125 ?

Thanks for your info.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

Confirmed? Model 125 ?

Thanks for your info.

Actually, on further insoection, it looks like it may in fact NOT be a 125 ( which is an Anschutz made rifle) , but a rifle made by CBC for C.I.L..
I can't remember the model however.
The thing that tipped me off is the safety, the Anschutz rifles have the safety on the right side behind the bolt( except of course, for the 54 action) and this one is on the left.
Cat

[walking buffalo]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Actually, on further insoection, it looks like it may in fact NOT be a 125 ( which is an Anschutz made rifle) , but a rifle made by CBC for C.I.L..
I can't remember the model however.
The thing that tipped me off is the safety, the Anschutz rifles have the safety on the right side behind the bolt( except of course, for the 54 action) and this one is on the left.
Cat

I'll look for marks under the scope mount as suggested, and I'll post some better pics of the action and markings in a few days.

The visible markings on the barrel are:

CIL
.22 S.L.L.R
made by JG Anschutz GMBH
Wattenbrik Ulm/D West Germany
Ser.# 639***

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by walking buffalo

I'll look for marks under the scope mount as suggested, and I'll post some better pics of the action and markings in a few days.

The visible markings on the barrel are:

CIL
.22 S.L.L.R
made by JG Anschutz GMBH
Wattenbrik Ulm/D West Germany
Ser.# 639***

WB, where is thge safety on that rilfe?
is it on the left or the right?
It may well be a 125, but I thought the safety on them was the same as the 64 action, although it has been quite a few years since i've seen one!
Cat

[huntinstuff]

I have pics of my 310, 190 and 125 at home.....I will post them tonite so there is no confusion.....

[marlin1]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Nope, the 190 is a single shot 64 action in a match rifle stock.
the 180 is the same action in a sporting class stock.
The are charicterized by the right hand safety on the side of the stock, much like a Remington 700 action has.
the 54 action ( a much higher quality action) has a wing safety much like a mauser
The rifle in the pic is a 125.
BTW, I have seen 54's go for $900, and the occasional 64MS, but NEVER a 310!!
They simply are not worth that much.

Cat

now that you say that the guy did say he heard of an anschutz going for 900 not necessarily a 310 . I'll try to post a pic of mine anyways

[marlin1]

heres a few pics

[hal53]

That is a 310!!

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by hal53

That is a 310!!

And a very nicely figured one at that!
Cat

[huntinstuff]

First pic is my 125. 2nd and third pics my 310




and yes, I did the stock work on the 125

[dgl1948]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

Nope, the 190 is a single shot 64 action in a match rifle stock.
the 180 is the same action in a sporting class stock.
The are charicterized by the right hand safety on the side of the stock, much like a Remington 700 action has.
the 54 action ( a much higher quality action) has a wing safety much like a mauser
The rifle in the pic is a 125.
BTW, I have seen 54's go for $900, and the occasional 64MS, but NEVER a 310!!
They simply are not worth that much.

Cat

I shot a 190 in sporting rifle compotation for years. It did not have a match rifle stock. The stock on the 190 met all the specs for sporting rifle compotation. The 1403 was basically the same as the 190 but it had the match stock. It could not be used in sporting rifle, only match compotation. Both used the 64 action.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by dgl1948

I shot a 190 in sporting rifle compotation for years. It did not have a match rifle stock. The stock on the 190 met all the specs for sporting rifle compotation. The 1403 was basically the same as the 190 but it had the match stock. It could not be used in sporting rifle, only match compotation. Both used the 64 action.

It depends on what style of match stock you are talking about the 100 used a standard rifle stock which is indeed a match stock
The 180 had s completely different stock .
It is the wright that matters for SFC sporting rifle competition , not so much the stock design except for maybe being none adjustable , which is what the standard rifle is made for as well. I am not sure when you started shooting the 190's but I have shot them since before they
were available to the publican the early 60's

Cat

[dgl1948]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

It depends on what style of match stock you are talking about the 100 used a standard rifle stock which is indeed a match stock
The 180 had s completely different stock .
It is the wright that matters for SFC sporting rifle competition , not so much the stock design except for maybe being none adjustable , which is what the standard rifle is made for as well. I am not sure when you started shooting the 190's but I have shot them since before they
were available to the publican the early 60's

Cat

I did most of my shooting in the late 60's, 70's and early 80's. If I remember right the match stocks depth was one thing that kept match stocks out of sporting rifle competition as well as weight. The 180 was used by a lot of cadets for target shooting.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by dgl1948

I did most of my shooting in the late 60's, 70's and early 80's. If I remember right the match stocks depth was one thing that kept match stocks out of sporting rifle competition as well as weight. The 180 was used by a lot of cadets for target shooting.

There were many stocks that met the match riflle category and you are partially correct, some of themm did not make the dimensions for sporting rifle, but some also did.

That is why the 190 was fitted with a rail, so it could be slung up for match rifle competition, but still be used in sporting rifle competition.
The 64 action was fitted with a heavier barrel in that stock originally that would not make weight for sporting rifle , it was made for match competition.
All that was needed to do was put the lighter barrel on it to make weight.
Cat

[dgl1948]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

There were many stocks that met the match riflle category and you are partially correct, some of themm did not make the dimensions for sporting rifle, but some also did.

That is why the 190 was fitted with a rail, so it could be slung up for match rifle competition, but still be used in sporting rifle competition.
The 64 action was fitted with a heavier barrel in that stock originally that would not make weight for sporting rifle , it was made for match competition.
All that was needed to do was put the lighter barrel on it to make weight.
Cat

My 190 had the same stock as the 64MS but had the lighter barrel. It had the rail as well. I used a 54 MS for silhouttes. I should have never sold it but detached retena sort of ended a lot of shooting. The only Anshutz I have left is a 520. I enjoy your knowledge of the Anshutz family Cat. I remember you posting some of your pictures of a few of the strange ones you have in one of our conversations here a year or so ago.

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by dgl1948

My 190 had the same stock as the 64MS but had the lighter barrel. It had the rail as well. I used a 54 MS for silhouttes. I should have never sold it but detached retena sort of ended a lot of shooting. The only Anshutz I have left is a 520. I enjoy your knowledge of the Anshutz family Cat. I remember you posting some of your pictures of a few of the strange ones you have in one of our conversations here a year or so ago.

C.I.L. had some pretty cool guns back then, and even today they are quite a bit cheaper than the Anschutz branded guns, lucky for us that like them!!
My first one had a different grip than the later ones, the grip sloped quite a bit as opposed to almost straight down like the later ones.
I just wish they had gone with the light sporter stock with the 54 action , that would have been a real zinger!!
Cat