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09-18-2016, 12:55 PM
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backpackers stoves
Are there any backpackers that carry 2 stoves, one wood burning for heat and the other gas for cooking.
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09-18-2016, 01:27 PM
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Typically backpackers are minimalists and weight conscience. I carry a jetboil for heating water for freeze died meals. If it's cold, I put on more clothes or find wood/sticks to burn in a fire pit.
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09-18-2016, 01:48 PM
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My wife and daughter did west coast trail with 15 others this summer.
7 Jet boils used. Would have been smart if they didnt bring so many lol. But was august on west coast. no need for more heat
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09-18-2016, 04:16 PM
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Ti Goat has a good wood stove it's like 2lbs with pipe
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09-18-2016, 05:24 PM
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cookstove
Tigoat and kifaru are the type of stoves that make people think they need their gas stove to get the cooking done without burning a bunch of wood to get the cooking done. They do not like waiting while 10% of the heat goes to the cook top and 50% or more goes up the chimney.
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09-18-2016, 05:33 PM
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Still use a Coleman backpack stove, it gets er done, breakfast to supper.
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09-18-2016, 05:46 PM
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used the MSR reactor 1 liter on a recent sheep hunt it was awesome.
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09-18-2016, 10:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chimpac
Do you want to show me what you carry in your backpack to do your cooking inside or outside the tent and what about heat. Do you have one stove that is good for all seasons.
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Don't worry about me, I have been backpacking and backpack hunting most of my life. I have my systems figured out very well. I have a very light titanium tarp stove that I rarely ever take, but if it is cold enough and I do, my cooking and heating system(2 stoves) would still be lighter than your set up.
Yes, I have read your many posts and threads on the subject in the past.
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09-18-2016, 08:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mgvande
Ti Goat has a good wood stove it's like 2lbs with pipe
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Full disclosure. The Ti goat is 4 lbs. I just weighted it. With pipe,bag and damper. A very handy stove that makes bad weather tolerable. I can't upload pics right now apparently. Yes I carry 2 stoves. One wood for when one is socked in and one for making coffee (canister pocket stove)
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09-18-2016, 09:28 PM
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backpackers stoves
Right now I am using an Optimus nova multi fuel and am happy with it. It's definitely not the lightest but I mainly do 2-4 days so I don't need anything ultra light. As for heating stoves I've heard good things about the kifaru stoves. I have one of their backpacks and if the stoves are half the quality of their packs it will be an awesome product.
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09-24-2016, 01:24 PM
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This thread is getting weirder yet.
I will miss the "I'm here to rescue the world from socialism" part though.
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09-24-2016, 01:42 PM
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see post#16
Probably me?
I am an admitted troll.
If anything the thread was derailed by not reporting or private message?
I think your stove and your post about tarps are excellent and I look forward to your posts, be it tarps or potential improvement in life.
Your tarp threads brought me back to when I stated camping and reminded me of more practical times.
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09-25-2016, 09:03 AM
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I'll join the fray and post up some pics of my little stove I carry . I cut this stove out on my plasma table and it works quite well . I used 16ga mild steel and it weighs in at 16 oz. Not a heater but an excellent alternative to lugging gas canisters or liquid fuel in and out on your trip.
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09-27-2016, 11:55 AM
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cooking with bottom heat
So I do not know if I have changed any one's minds about cooking in their tent or that the safest place to be is in the tent if a bear comes snooping around.
A hunter often has access to fresh meat and fish on the trail. It has always been a tradition, with hunters I have hunted with, to eat the liver of an animal that is shot that day at the evening meal. Therefore I carry kettles and an under stove oven.
When the weather is warm a wood cook stove produces unwanted heat so it makes sense to use the heat from the top and the bottom of a stove. Even when the weather is cold the cooking is more important than heat.
I carry a .224 lbs. under stove broiler (shown in post #21). Frying is difficult with thin cookware so a camper is stuck with boiling everything unless he can bake his food with heat from above the food.
Cooking on top and bottom of the stove really speeds up cooking time when you only have one burner.
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09-27-2016, 07:46 PM
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Black Spruce wood burning stove
http://www.blacksprucegear.ca/
These guys make a cool collapsible wood stove for outside use, we use it under the tarp on kayak and canoe trips. Can cook steaks and chicken legs on it Much too heavy for backpacking in my opinion.
For backpacking I use a pocket rocket type or an MSR Whisperlite. If it gets cold, crawl inside your sleeping bag.
Happy hunting!
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10-04-2016, 09:40 AM
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outside cooking in wind
Most mornings, weather in Alberta is not that good for cooking and eating outside. It is not much fun to be going outside with a backpacker type gas, or woodburning, stove to cook breakfast in the wind. There would be a lot more backpackers out and about all times of the year if they had better equipment. Wind and cold is to rough for a lot of backpackers to cook outside or risk CO poisoning when cooking in their tent vestibule.
No matter how hard the wind is blowing or how cold it is I enjoy cooking breakfast on my latest wood stove/chimney inside a tarp shelter. I spend my spare time testing stoves I make and tarps I pitch. My latest best stove is simpler and better in lots of ways. It can be seen on the sites shown below and posts on this forum that I am a voice crying in the wilderness when it comes to getting backpackers to use a wood burning (or other solid fuel) stove/ chimney to cook inside a tent. There seems to be almost total resistance by the backpacker crowd against using a chimney on a cookstove.
http://www.backpacking.net/forum/ubb...205#Post144205
109918 views by sept 30, 2016, Guide cooking with chimney, post# 144253. vestibule, post# 144590
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09-27-2016, 12:18 PM
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Jungleboy,
That stove is awesome.
Just carry a few flat pieces of metal, and you have a stove set up and ready to go in seconds.
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02-01-2017, 05:24 PM
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DON'T USE GALVANIZED METAL ON A WOOD STOVE YOU ARE GOING TO USE IN AN ENCLOSED AREA!
IT CAN POISON YOU!
Sorry for yelling, but I wanted to make sure people didn't miss this.
If you think I'm just giving you a hard time like everyone else on here, call up a welder and tell him you have some galvanized metal you need welded, and see what he says.
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02-02-2017, 12:27 AM
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galvanized
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey Cox
DON'T USE GALVANIZED METAL ON A WOOD STOVE YOU ARE GOING TO USE IN AN ENCLOSED AREA!
IT CAN POISON YOU!
Sorry for yelling, but I wanted to make sure people didn't miss this.
If you think I'm just giving you a hard time like everyone else on here, call up a welder and tell him you have some galvanized metal you need welded, and see what he says.
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I know all about the problem and did have a dose of the fumes to make me silly for a while. I am not the only one using galvanized steel for stoves. An out fit in Idaho uses it for their pipe and stoves. Once the zinc is burned there is no more danger. A person could put a torch to all the stove but that would invite rust on all the stove. If it is burned really hot out in the open the first time it should be OK to use inside.
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02-02-2017, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chimpac
I know all about the problem and did have a dose of the fumes to make me silly for a while.
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I would say your biggest problem is you've had way more than one dose of "the fumes".
I don't have a problem with your dimestore hobo stoves. My issue with you is your crappy execution of your home made junk by arguing that basically no one does it better than you do.
I have read your opinions on many websites. I have even seen you arguing with climbers, who are climbing thousands of feet above the tree line and you telling them that they are doing it wrong.
Trust me, your hobo junk isn't the best for every situation. It's great that it works for you 20' from your car door but some people actually venture out much further in the backcountry than that and have very good setups and figured those setups from time and lots of backcountry experience.
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02-02-2017, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chimpac
I know all about the problem and did have a dose of the fumes to make me silly for a while. I am not the only one using galvanized steel for stoves. An out fit in Idaho uses it for their pipe and stoves. Once the zinc is burned there is no more danger. A person could put a torch to all the stove but that would invite rust on all the stove. If it is burned really hot out in the open the first time it should be OK to use inside.
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That is not ok.
Saying that it's ok is wrong and dangerous.
You and "an outfit out of Idaho" are giving terrible, dangerous advice by saying to use galvanized metal.
I don't really give a crap one way or another about the effectiveness of your stoves. I don't think it's possible for anyone to be as big a fan of them as you are.
But selling galvanized stove parts to people to use in enclosed spaces is wrong, and the fact that you knew it was dangerous, and still did it anyways makes you a bad person.
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02-02-2017, 07:50 AM
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This thread bread is about done.
Galvanized anything and enough heat to give off fumes is a no- no!
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02-02-2017, 12:13 AM
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Check out the Trail designs tri-ti. I don't have one personally, but I am very intrigued by the 3 fuel options for such a light stove. Not sure how much heat one might put out, it's a pretty small fire.
https://www.traildesigns.com/
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09-18-2016, 07:26 PM
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I've been at -35 in a 6 man dome tent with a 14" Ti goat and I was in my under wear. Thank god I lost 50% of the heat I guess. So what stoves is this guy selling on kijiji? Wow I didn't know stoves were a hot button.
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09-18-2016, 09:50 PM
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MSR stoves
I use both the MSR Pocket rocket and Whisperlite.
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09-18-2016, 09:52 PM
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I've carried a pocket rocket and a bio lite.
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09-21-2016, 12:22 PM
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Backpacking stoves
When backpacking if I "must" boil some water I use a handful of twigs and have a fire. I'm a big proponent of not cooking although a hot meal is a wonderful thing, it requires a lot of heavy gear. A handful of pemmican and a slurp of instant coffee stirred into a cup of cold water isn't much fun to eat but it sure is lighter than a stove, cup etc.... I think the little alchol stoves that are made of pop cans are a cool idea for warming up a little bit of water.
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purgatory.sv, Who did it wrong you or me
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