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Old 12-24-2010, 02:22 PM
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Question the best way to sight in

well i am couriuos what is the best way to sight in your rifles. do you use a caldwell lead sled type thing or just a bench and sand bags etc. what is the best peice of equipment to use for sighting a rifle. as i have a few to do. i use the caldwell lead slead a few times it works well but i if the ajustments are kinda course and it seems to move around a bit even if i strap it down to the bench ?
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Old 12-24-2010, 02:36 PM
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I use a front rest and sand bags.I will not use a lead sled,because they can effect the point of impact with some rifles.
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Old 12-24-2010, 04:33 PM
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For zeroing my guns or developing loads I use front rest and rear bag.
I zero my rfiles at 200, then check the POI at 300 and 100.
Then I put the bags away and check the zero from kneeling to make sure I am still on at 200.
some of my rifles shoot very differently from the bags to shooting without them, due to their weight, design of stock, etc.

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Old 12-24-2010, 06:21 PM
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front and rear sandbags.
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:24 PM
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I use an old duffel bag full of rags.
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Old 12-24-2010, 06:42 PM
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A guy in Saskatoon made me a fairly heavy steel rifle rest that I can strap the rifle in and it takes me out of the equation for preliminary sighting. When i know the rifle is good then i put myself in the equation and go from there.
Some people don't like rifle rests but i love them.
I despise sand bags as they do nothing but leave a big mess on shooting benchs.
I am talking about the guys that use the sand bags you buy at the 7-11 during winter not the small leather sealed ones of coarse.
thats my three bitts worth.
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Old 12-24-2010, 07:10 PM
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A guy in Saskatoon made me a fairly heavy steel rifle rest that I can strap the rifle in and it takes me out of the equation for preliminary sighting.
I would avoid any type of rest that prevents a rifle from recoiling naturally.It can result in a different point of impact,and with heavy recoiling cartridges,it can result in damage to the stock or bedding.I have personally seen two stocks cracked when 338win rifles were fired out of a type of gun vice.
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Old 12-26-2010, 09:48 AM
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Front rest, rear sandbags (sealed) on a proper bench at the range. I like to fire a few rounds down range off the start to get the "cob webs" out.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:07 AM
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Harris Bi pod and shoulder.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:16 AM
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Harris Bi pod and shoulder.
I install my bipod on my rifle after sighting in to verify if the bipod effects the point of impact.On some rifles it does,and on others it doesn't.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:44 PM
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The platform should be a typical benchrest rig, on a solid concrete foundation, with sand-padded adjustable front stand, and a coarse sand bag and 'owl ears' bag for the butt. Your own shoulder should be the only thing absorbing recoil. That's for consistency and because most commercial rifles aren't made to be clamped down to some solid device. The support rests should be sort of like what this cat's using:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6798795391569#

With a bolt-action rifle, square a picatinny rail on the action, mount the scope on that with turret adjustments to zero. Put up a target at 50 yards, pull out the bolt and look through the bore. Center the bore on the bullseye. Without disturbing the rifle, adjust the scope to also center on the bullseye.

On a calm, cool day, take a clean/cold-bore shot just to confirm that you hit the paper near the bullseye, then ignore it. (The impact of most rifles I've used settle somewhere away from that first shot for whatever reason).

At a 100 meter target, take a second shot carefully aiming at the bullseye. After that shot, again aim exactly on the bullseye's center. Then without disturbing the rifle at all, adjust the range and windage knobs so that the crosshair is on where that second shot hit.

With one warm shot, you will have zero'd your rifle. No need to chase the point of impact all over the place with a whole box of ammo.

Record the turret settings, and if the scope model allows, set the caps to zero at that setting. If you're using the same scope for multiple rifles, keep your 'go-to' rifle as the main reference (either with those turret settings or the zero-set caps). Then mount the scope on each of the other rifles, zero'ing each in succession the same way, except just write down the turret adjustments for each. The turret adjustment for each will be the zero that you set the scope at, for that particular rifle.

With a good scope base, you'll be able to swap the scope back onto any rifle and have it zero'd to a fraction of a mil with the numbers you wrote down. Fine-tuning the zero after swapping the scope back usually will only take one or two clicks.

It's best to zero to 100 yards if you're using the turrets to set clicks for range and windage adjustments, from a reference or 'dope' card. If you think you will be 'snap-shooting' then you will want zero at close range anyway. If you will be shooting at 300 or 500 yards or more, then you will probably be setting up for a careful long shot. Then you should have enough time to glance at the dope card, and crank the turrets the right number of clicks.
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:54 PM
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At a 100 meter target, take a second shot carefully aiming at the bullseye. After that shot, again aim exactly on the bullseye's center. Then without disturbing the rifle at all, adjust the range and windage knobs so that the crosshair is on where that second shot hit.

With one warm shot, you will have zero'd your rifle. No need to chase the point of impact all over the place with a whole box of ammo.
That is a good way to get your rough sight in,but unless you and your rifle can put every shot through the same hole,you need to shoot a group to verify the zero.
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