MLA Derick Fildebrandt

LSLAKER · #1 08-13-2017, 03:45 PM

There has been little to nothing being said about MLA Derick Fildebrandt. Is it because of our shame for his actions as an UCP party MLA or something else?

MLA Derick Fildebrandt has an Edmonton apartment paid for by the taxpayers of Alberta and he decided to make himself some extra cash by renting this taxpayer's apartment out to others. Did he not know that he could be caught for his careless actions which could easily be considered as stealing?

Selkirk · #2 08-13-2017, 03:49 PM

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AOF thread on MLA Derek Fildebrandt ... http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=327104

Fill yer boots!

Selkirk

kevinhits · #3 08-13-2017, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LSLAKER

There has been little to nothing being said about MLA Derick Fildebrandt. Is it because of our shame for his actions as an UCP party MLA or something else?

MLA Derick Fildebrandt has an Edmonton apartment paid for by the taxpayers of Alberta and he decided to make himself some extra cash by renting this taxpayer's apartment out to others. Did he not know that he could be caught for his careless actions which could easily be considered as stealing?

Move along...nothing to see here

260 Rem · #4 08-13-2017, 04:56 PM

No doubt one of those "test" moments for UCP ... set standards from the start.

covey ridge · #5 08-13-2017, 05:41 PM

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No doubt one of those "test" moments for UCP ... set standards from the start.

Agree. The newly formed UCP should not show any tolerance for this sort of stuff. Should be turfed from party.

pikergolf · #6 08-13-2017, 05:46 PM

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Agree. The newly formed UCP should not show any tolerance for this sort of stuff. Should be turfed from party.

I doubt he will be. If this was the other way around, he would be going nuts on whomever did what he did. A lot of people will be watching this with interest. No doubt mistakes are made, but when you make a career out of picking at people, you should be blemish free. All over a few thousand dollars.

bobalong · #7 08-13-2017, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LSLAKER

There has been little to nothing being said about MLA Derick Fildebrandt. Is it because of our shame for his actions as an UCP party MLA or something else?

MLA Derick Fildebrandt has an Edmonton apartment paid for by the taxpayers of Alberta and he decided to make himself some extra cash by renting this taxpayer's apartment out to others. Did he not know that he could be caught for his careless actions which could easily be considered as stealing?

I think this is a whole can of worms that many politicians don't want opened. Are these being classed as an earned benefit or an expense reimbursement?

Check what funds were used to purchase Brian Jeans apartment, which is now in his name, to do what ever he pleases with. Many other politicians have done the same.

Bigwoodsman · #8 08-13-2017, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pikergolf

I doubt he will be. If this was the other way around, he would be going nuts on whomever did what he did. A lot of people will be watching this with interest. No doubt mistakes are made, but when you make a career out of picking at people, you should be blemish free. All over a few thousand dollars.

If you're going to live in a glass house. You best not throw rocks!

This reeks of conservative entititlment that's been prevalent in Alberta.

When any politician sees a chance to line his or her own pockets at the expense of the public they do. Politicians get paid to do what they do and paid very well, housing and living costs should be expensed publicly. Any monies given to a politician as remuneration for services rendered should be public knowledge.

BW

Taco · #9 08-13-2017, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pikergolf

I doubt he will be. If this was the other way around, he would be going nuts on whomever did what he did. A lot of people will be watching this with interest. No doubt mistakes are made, but when you make a career out of picking at people, you should be blemish free. All over a few thousand dollars.

This^^

Trochu · #10 08-13-2017, 06:05 PM

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Check what funds were used to purchase Brian Jeans apartment, which is now in his name, to do what ever he pleases with. Many other politicians have done the same.

Isn't that fair game though, with any employee? Its a no brainer to buy a place IMO.

From the other thread, "MLAs from ridings outside the Edmonton region are allotted a maximum housing budget of $23,160 each fiscal year to buy or lease a property in the city"

artie · #11 08-13-2017, 07:27 PM

what's the old saying you can not trust politicians

260 Rem · #12 08-13-2017, 07:48 PM

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This reeks of conservative entititlment that's been prevalent in Alberta.

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And that is why it is critical for the UCP to bounce DF which would demonstrate their trip to the woodshed was not in vain. Failure to take the initiative on this ethically questionable conduct would open the party to well justified criticism that would stick with them throughout the next campaign.

LSLAKER · #13 08-13-2017, 07:52 PM

Brian Jean lost his home during the Fort McMurray fire. His home was in the well established area of Fort McMurray known as Waterways. I have heard that there may be no rebuilding of homes in this area. Perhaps someone from Fort McMurray can confirm or correct me on this.

I do not know if he has rebuilt in another area of town or what other arrangements were made by him to remain a resident of Fort McMurray.

If Brian Jean has decided to purchase an apartment or house in Edmonton then he is entitled to the full living away allowance.

Bigwoodsman · #14 08-13-2017, 08:13 PM

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And that is why it is critical for the UCP to bounce DF which would demonstrate their trip to the woodshed was not in vain. Failure to take the initiative on this ethically questionable conduct would open the party to well justified criticism that would stick with them throughout the next campaign.

Well they best! Him and any other canker sores that they have need to get the message.

Here's a question. With Brian Jean running for UCP leader is he still considered an MLA? Did he have to resign his WR seat? As a candidate in a party that isn't sitting in the legislature is he entitled to wages and or expenses? What about the rest of the UCP?

I would think that a by election would be necessary to validate those members as they were not elected by the public under the UCP banner.

BW

covey ridge · #15 08-13-2017, 08:26 PM

They can name themselves whatever they want but if the UCP will not purge their party of the likes of Derick Fildebrandt it will be a statement that they are just the same old same old party of entitlement.

amosfella · #16 08-13-2017, 09:35 PM

As I understand it, the apartment was bought or leased in his name. The money was for him to put towards the apartment. As far as I'm concerned it's merely a smart business decision. Using property when it's not used is a prudent business decision.

If he paid down the mortgage faster, more power to him... If he rented the apartment, then billed for a hotel room, I'd say something different.

sns2 · #17 08-13-2017, 09:55 PM

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They can name themselves whatever they want but if the UCP will not purge their party of the likes of Derick Fildebrandt it will be a statement that they are just the same old same old party of entitlement.

100% agreed. I will absolutely not vote for them if he just gets to carry on and the leadership of the party turns a blind eye. That will just prove it is more of the same crap only with a shiny new shovel. Hypocrisy and entitlement of the highest level, and typifies why we have an NDP gov't today.

260 Rem · #18 08-13-2017, 09:57 PM

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As I understand it, the apartment was bought or leased in his name. The money was for him to put towards the apartment. As far as I'm concerned it's merely a smart business decision. Using property when it's not used is a prudent business decision.

If he paid down the mortgage faster, more power to him... If he rented the apartment, then billed for a hotel room, I'd say something different.

The kind of thinking that opens the door to a myriad of schemes of personal benefit underwritten by public money. Hmmmm, better check for a deal on a car rental...
I expect most ... like myself ... think there is stink.

boah · #19 08-13-2017, 09:58 PM

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100% agreed. I will absolutely not vote for them if he just gets to carry on and the leadership of the party turns a blind eye. That will just prove it is more of the same crap only with a shiny new shovel. Hypocrisy and entitlement of the highest level, and typifies why we have an NDP gov't today.

So, you will vote NDP again??

sns2 · #20 08-13-2017, 10:00 PM

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So, you will vote NDP again??

I am hopeful that they will unceremoniously boot his arse to the backbenches. Should they not, there are alternatives other than the NDP. In particular, the Alberta Party which likely represents my core values better than any other party. I also would like to see them put a spot on the ballot for "none of the above" so one could still exercise their democratic right, even if they cannot endorse any of the candidates in good conscience.

DiabeticKripple · #21 08-13-2017, 10:14 PM

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Well they best! Him and any other canker sores that they have need to get the message.

Here's a question. With Brian Jean running for UCP leader is he still considered an MLA? Did he have to resign his WR seat? As a candidate in a party that isn't sitting in the legislature is he entitled to wages and or expenses? What about the rest of the UCP?

I would think that a by election would be necessary to validate those members as they were not elected by the public under the UCP banner.

BW

they are still elected MLA's and the UCP is a recognized party and the official opposition of the NDP.

Sandra Jensen didn't have a by-election when she crossed from the cons to the dippers.

Bigwoodsman · #22 08-13-2017, 10:30 PM

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they are still elected MLA's and the UCP is a recognized party and the official opposition of the NDP.

Sandra Jensen didn't have a by-election when she crossed from the cons to the dippers.

Fair enough just asking questions. However when Jensen crossed she crossed to a party that the general public voted for. Even though I believe floor crossing is a chicken poop move by anyone. Hi-elections should be the order of the day when mergers take place.

BW

Bigwoodsman · #23 08-13-2017, 10:34 PM

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I am hopeful that they will unceremoniously boot his arse to the backbenches. Should they not, there are alternatives other than the NDP.

I think they should kick his arse right out of politics. Slapping these guys on the wrist just fosters this kind of behaviour. It's only going to be tougher to catch him next time.

These, and I'll be nice by calling them politicians are playing with our money. In business this would be fraud and he'd be fired. Why hang on to him the golden handshake these men and women are given should be enough.

BW

sns2 · #24 08-13-2017, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigwoodsman

I think they should kick his arse right out of politics. Slapping these guys on the wrist just fosters this kind of behaviour. It's only going to be tougher to catch him next time.

These, and I'll be nice by calling them politicians are playing with our money. In business this would be fraud and he'd be fired. Why hang on to him the golden handshake these men and women are given should be enough.

BW

I agree with you, but we know that they don't eat their own very often. The only move that will play well is to punt him from the party and he can join Drever. I used to care and get wound up. Now I am pretty cynical about the vast majority of them.

Bigwoodsman · #25 08-13-2017, 10:44 PM

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I agree with you, but we know that they don't eat their own very often. The only move that will play well is to punt him from the party and he can join Drever. I used to care and get wound up. Now I am pretty cynical about the vast majority of them.

Whomever becomes leader of the UCP should use this character as an example. Set the tone on day 2 and carry it forward. Show Alberta that he or she will not tolerate pork barrel politics. Give albertans a reason to believe that these conservatives have changed their stripes and are going to govern for albertans on a mandate that will not only make our economy number 1 but also integrity and honesty in the legislative assembly!

We nee to be able to trust our elected officials to govern responsibly for the best interest of all Alberta.

BW

260 Rem · #26 08-13-2017, 11:09 PM

I assume that until the coalition/merger is consummated, both PC and WRA retain their party status, which, if is in fact the case, would mean the WRA should be dumping him from the caucus? If, the WRA does not take the initiative....all the leadership candidates need to weigh in.

DiabeticKripple · #27 08-13-2017, 11:12 PM

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I assume that until the coalition/merger is consummated, both PC and WRA retain their party status, which, if is in fact the case, would mean the WRA should be dumping him from the caucus? If, the WRA does not take the initiative....all the leadership candidates need to weigh in.

There is no WR or PC parties. They have merged and the process is complete. The only thing they don't have is a leader.

drhu22 · #28 08-14-2017, 12:15 AM

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There is no WR or PC parties. They have merged and the process is complete. The only thing they don't have is a leader.

The shining hope who wont even release a platform...

http://globalnews.ca/news/3640228/ja...te-in-alberta/

"Former federal cabinet minister Jason Kenney says he won’t have a policy platform as he seeks the leadership of Alberta’s new United Conservative Party.Kenney announced what he called a “grassroots guarantee” in Calgary Tuesday saying he would consult members of the new party and other Albertans before determining what promises he would campaign on as leader in the next provincial election."

0 respect for this bull****

Newview01 · #29 08-14-2017, 07:47 AM

Just going out on a limb here, but do not all out of town MLAs use their living allowances? This abuse of public $ is not limited to Derek Fildebrandt, or the UCP for that matter.

Badgerbadger · #30 08-14-2017, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Newview01

Just going out on a limb here, but do not all out of town MLAs use their living allowances? This abuse of public $ is not limited to Derek Fildebrandt, or the UCP for that matter.

They use some of their allowances. Some use very little, and some use all.

The problem here is that DF was renting his place out on AirBnB, and pocketing the revenue, rather than claiming the income and thus reducing the amount he recieved for housing.