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Climate change has become an industry in itself, the governments pushing the climate change agenda are providing grants and money to support their agenda, but if you are out to oppose their agenda, grants/money are not readily available. Science and fact are irrelevant, it's all about supporting the government funded agenda.
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Climate change has become an industry in itself, the governments pushing the climate change agenda are providing grants and money to support their agenda, but if you are out to oppose their agenda, grants/money are not readily available. Science and fact are irrelevant, it's all about supporting the government funded agenda.
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Like everything one needs to say follow the money.
The liberal insiders have been around for ever. The money being made in the green space is huge.
Some have blinders on. They say people invested in oil and gas lobby for their wallets. But they think those investing and making millions in green companies are pious. It’s crazy.
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03-30-2024, 05:50 PM
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Eventually geek power will work out I would think that would be good thing for the earth and people
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03-30-2024, 06:05 PM
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Eventually geek power will work out I would think that would be good thing for the earth and people
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The woke may understand technology, but they aren't smart enough to see that they are being used by the elite, to give the elite absolute power over the general population.
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03-30-2024, 06:12 PM
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The woke may understand technology, but they aren't smart enough to see that they are being used by the elite, to give the elite absolute power over the general population.
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I think that humans are affecting the climate in negative way just my opinion I don’t think I’m being controlled
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03-30-2024, 06:17 PM
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Eventually geek power will work out I would think that would be good thing for the earth and people
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Without a doubt technology will improve it’s been the trend since the beginning of mankind. The real question is when will new technology be a viable answer and when are we going to start developing infrastructure to make it a realistic option
Fully support development and research towards better technology but I don’t support fairytales, scamming $, and canceling/penalizing the use of present technology without the minimum of a reasonable plan for a viable replacement
Most want to see a realistic approach, less fear mongering, and excessive taxation without logical reason. I am pretty sure everyone realizes technology will improve
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03-30-2024, 06:18 PM
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I think that humans are affecting the climate in negative way just my opinion I don’t think I’m being controlled
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If the woke could see when they were being used, it wouldn't be so easy to use them. 
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03-30-2024, 06:21 PM
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Thankfully, most are seeing through the carbon tax/global warming scam. Took long enough, but we’re there now & common sense is prevailing. That is unless a person is part of trudud’s radical posse.
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03-30-2024, 06:30 PM
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Eventually geek power will work out I would think that would be good thing for the earth and people
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The tech is already there (nuclear) but they refuse to use it, maybe a curious mind would ask why.
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03-30-2024, 06:50 PM
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The tech is already there (nuclear) but they refuse to use it, maybe a curious mind would ask why.
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The Climate Alarmists want to tax you into submission.
They don’t want a solution
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03-30-2024, 07:13 PM
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The Climate Alarmists want to tax you into submission.
They don’t want a solution
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Exactly, what would all of those people being paid to push the climate change agenda do, if we could actually attain net zero? What would the government come up with to replace it, as an excuse to tax and restrict us?
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03-30-2024, 07:32 PM
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The tech is already there (nuclear) but they refuse to use it, maybe a curious mind would ask why.
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Probably cause it is ended in disiaster two times take a couple hundred years to clean up
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03-30-2024, 07:35 PM
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Probably cause it is ended in disiaster two times take a couple hundred years to clean up
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The tech has developed far beyond those.
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Probably cause it is ended in disiaster two times take a couple hundred years to clean up
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And yet there’s still over 400+ reactors worldwide. The truth is that greenies don’t want the alarmism to ever stop. Couldn’t possibly be used as a smokescreen for communism. Nah…that’s crazy talk…
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03-30-2024, 09:52 PM
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The Climate Alarmists want to tax you into submission.
They don’t want a solution
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The Haida has a plan to spread powdered iron, which is a limiting nutrient. It would greatly increase plankton biomass and fish biomass and would rain carbon down to the deep ocean bottom desert feeding more critters. It locks up carbon.
Global climate activists said no because it would allow Canadian oil and gas companies an excuse to keep producing.
So… how much anti oil and gas protests occur in the US or all all the activists being paid to protest in a foreign country… ie Canada.
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Everyday the North American and Western European countries talk about using less O&G, but everyday more is used.
Perhaps if it wasn't needed in such massive amounts to produce the so-called "green energy" products, we might actually see a decline in its use...
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03-31-2024, 08:13 AM
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The tech has developed far beyond those.
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No I’m afraid not if 200 more nuclear power plants get made there will be more accidents maybe not when there new but when there 25 years old and suppoes to be laid up and industry keeps them going for money. Not to mention nuclear waist has to be stored for ever. Then 100 years from now the people living on earth wills wonder why with the technology we have we left them with all this waist to store for ever.
Ill admit if the world truely wanted to go green power we could make it work but goverments and big business block it. I think the us spent 2 trillion dollars to develop the f35 if that money and brain power went to develop ways to provide power could have made some great achievements. But war is money to and people will never stop fighting.
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03-31-2024, 08:15 AM
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Taxes isn’t going to make our power more green I’ll agree the goverment is going about it the wrong way and I don’t see much results.
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03-31-2024, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundancefisher
The Haida has a plan to spread powdered iron, which is a limiting nutrient. It would greatly increase plankton biomass and fish biomass and would rain carbon down to the deep ocean bottom desert feeding more critters. It locks up carbon.
Global climate activists said no because it would allow Canadian oil and gas companies an excuse to keep producing.
So… how much anti oil and gas protests occur in the US or all all the activists being paid to protest in a foreign country… ie Canada.
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Climate protest / capitalism protest. It is a growth industry. Many choose it as a career path.
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