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what spear to buy?
well this is probably my last chance to ever hunt with a spear so i'll give it a go.
https://www.amazon.ca/Cold-Steel-Ass...keywords=spear
this is the one i first considered because it looks like the one used in "the bear video"
i'll be going after deer
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08-22-2016, 10:54 AM
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It will be interesting to see if the NDP can change the law before the general season starts up. The zone I just booked a week off for starts Sept. 17th.
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08-22-2016, 11:08 AM
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Make sure you video tape the hunt for everyone to enjoy. Keep in mind fist pumps and thanking Jesus only add to the entertainment.
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08-22-2016, 11:56 AM
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Above all.................. make sure your spear is sharp and you have your new clean depends on...... 
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08-22-2016, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fish_e_o
well this is probably my last chance to ever hunt with a spear so i'll give it a go.
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yeah, it's not like a person needs any time to practice. Everyone knows how to throw. 
Watched that &#^# Jason Acorn (who I don't actually mind most of the time) try to hit a deer with a spear on the BoneYard. Only reason it didn't go viral was because he missed by a mile. A true precision killing instrument, in his hands anyway. I do have my limits on what I consider an ethical hunting method, and I think spears are getting pretty close to it.... just short of an axe.
And no, fish, I'm not saying anything about you or that you wouldn't practice. But others.... 
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08-22-2016, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
yeah, it's not like a person needs any time to practice. Everyone knows how to throw.
Watched that &#^# Jason Acorn (who I don't actually mind most of the time) try to hit a deer with a spear on the BoneYard. Only reason it didn't go viral was because he missed by a mile. A true precision killing instrument, in his hands anyway. I do have my limits on what I consider an ethical hunting method, and I think spears are getting pretty close to it.... just short of an axe.
And no, fish, I'm not saying anything about you or that you wouldn't practice. But others.... |
i've had tons of deer every year walk directly under me in my tree stand so i think that's going to be how i'll be doing this and how i'm going to be practicing.
i have two months i hope i can get to the point where i'm proficient with it, if not i'll simply not do it.
also that spear looks awesome dmcbride. i'll just have to find a Canadian seller
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08-22-2016, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dmcbride
It will be interesting to see if the NDP can change the law before the general season starts up. The zone I just booked a week off for starts Sept. 17th.
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id be careful hunting with spears this year
from my understanding, the law is already changed when they changed the definition of what a hunting WEAPON is
this happened many months before the 'bear spearing' video came out
from this years hunting regs, a spear does not full into the definition, there is no definition for muscle power projectile:
Weapon - a firearm or any other device that propels a projectile by means of an explosion, spring, air, gas, string, wire or elastic material or any combination of those things.
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Originally Posted by fish_e_o
i've had tons of deer every year walk directly under me in my tree stand so i think that's going to be how i'll be doing this and how i'm going to be practicing.
i have two months i hope i can get to the point where i'm proficient with it, if not i'll simply not do it.
also that spear looks awesome dmcbride. i'll just have to find a Canadian seller
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I do think the spear is a bit light and you said that you have deer walking directly under your tree stand so I suggest you use this item with the blade of the spear.
https://www.amazon.ca/NSG-Flight-Pog.../dp/B00BWLCLY4
This will ensure deep penetration and will up the thrill level substantially.
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I'd go for elk and avoid all those animals with names like Smokey, Bambi, and Bullwinkle. 
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08-22-2016, 12:54 PM
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you're depending on anti's to not get their species mixed up.
"In a story reminiscent of Cecil the Lion, a famous elk from Kittitas county, Washington was shot and harvested by a hunter last December. Normally, this isn’t news but this particular elk was a local legend. It lived in a pasture and allowed tourists to feed it by hand and take as many pictures as daylight would allow. Nicknamed “Bullwinkle”, he was the star of show. However, how quickly things changed."
http://www.wideopenspaces.com/high-p...trage-follows/
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08-22-2016, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by D4l3k
id be careful hunting with spears this year
from my understanding, the law is already changed when they changed the definition of what a hunting WEAPON is
this happened many months before the 'bear spearing' video came out
from this years hunting regs, a spear does not full into the definition, there is no definition for muscle power projectile:
Weapon - a firearm or any other device that propels a projectile by means of an explosion, spring, air, gas, string, wire or elastic material or any combination of those things.
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No they haven't changed anything yet. That same definition was in last years regs as well.
Maybe I will just put a knock on my spear and bring my bow.LOL.
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08-22-2016, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dmcbride
No they haven't changed anything yet. That same definition was in last years regs as well.
Maybe I will just put a knock on my spear and bring my bow.LOL.
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Man, what would the draw weight be to launch that thing? I wouldn't want to hold it very long.
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Originally Posted by D4l3k
id be careful hunting with spears this year
from my understanding, the law is already changed when they changed the definition of what a hunting WEAPON is
this happened many months before the 'bear spearing' video came out
from this years hunting regs, a spear does not full into the definition, there is no definition for muscle power projectile:
Weapon - a firearm or any other device that propels a projectile by means of an explosion, spring, air, gas, string, wire or elastic material or any combination of those things.
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No, the law has Not been changed yet.
There have been NO changes to the definition of legal weapons within the Wildlife Act nor the Wildlife regulations for years.....
But there is a new ORDER from the Premier's office last week demanding that F&W change the laws immediately.
Our Leader has spoken....
We should know soon if this Order will be realized by Ministerial action or through
the legislature.... either way, Our Dear Leader will have her way....
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08-22-2016, 01:02 PM
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Will this affect FN people to continue using this method?
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08-22-2016, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by walking buffalo
No, the law has Not been changed yet.
There have been NO changes to the definition of legal weapons within the Wildlife Act nor the Wildlife regulations for years.....
But there is a new ORDER from the Premier's office last week demanding that F&W change the laws immediately.
Our Leader has spoken....
We should know soon if this Order will be realized by Ministerial action or through
the legislature.... either way, Our Dear Leader will have her way....
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Seems to be a trend with our new leader.
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08-22-2016, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by walking buffalo
Our Leader has spoken....
We should know soon if this Order will be realized by Ministerial action or through
the legislature.... either way, Our Dear Leader will have her way....
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Sort of like Ralph and barbs. Took a mistake to get back to sanity.
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08-22-2016, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dmcbride
Seems to be a trend with our new leader.
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Ahem.... That's "Dear Leader"....
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Will this affect FN people to continue using this method?
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I don't think so.
Spoken word from F&W Enforcement is that there will likely be a non-enforcement directive in place for Aboriginal people who use spears/atlatl darts.
There is little desire to write an exemption into law for Aboriginal peoples, and no desire to lose the inevitable court case if such charges were laid....
So, an "Indian" and a "White" guy go spear hunting together....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by walking buffalo
No, the law has Not been changed yet.
There have been NO changes to the definition of legal weapons within the Wildlife Act nor the Wildlife regulations for years.....
But there is a new ORDER from the Premier's office last week demanding that F&W change the laws immediately.
Our Leader has spoken....
We should know soon if this Order will be realized by Ministerial action or through
the legislature.... either way, Our Dear Leader will have her way....
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any mention on if they'll ban it completely or if it does get banned before i can do it maybe i can still poke a rabbit or something so it's not a complete waste.
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08-22-2016, 02:47 PM
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I use a long cattle prod with 12 battteries. When I poke them with it, they run like a turpentined dog, faster than a bull when his jewels are attacked by the same gadget!!!!
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Originally Posted by D4l3k
id be careful hunting with spears this year
from my understanding, the law is already changed when they changed the definition of what a hunting WEAPON is
this happened many months before the 'bear spearing' video came out
from this years hunting regs, a spear does not full into the definition, there is no definition for muscle power projectile:
Weapon - a firearm or any other device that propels a projectile by means of an explosion, spring, air, gas, string, wire or elastic material or any combination of those things.
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Would a spear gun fit the regs?
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Technically if hunting from a platform the spear would be "air" powered as gravity is making it fall to the animal😀
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You need to decide if you want a thrusting or throwing spear. Do you want to get within 6 to 8 yards for a throwing spear or an 8 to 12 foot long shafted thrusting spear thrust mere feet from the animal?
Do you "Blow the Throw" or "Trust the thrust"?
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None is great
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D4l3k
id be careful hunting with spears this year
from my understanding, the law is already changed when they changed the definition of what a hunting WEAPON is
this happened many months before the 'bear spearing' video came out
from this years hunting regs, a spear does not full into the definition, there is no definition for muscle power projectile:
Weapon - a firearm or any other device that propels a projectile by means of an explosion, spring, air, gas, string, wire or elastic material or any combination of those things.
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Yes it does, I eat stag chilli, gas propels my innards and my arm releases the spear... 
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Use a Sarissa
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A pointed one with some mass connected to a sturdy shaft.
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08-22-2016, 09:20 PM
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I bought my husband a Cold Steel Samburu Spear which he plans to use from a tree stand for deer and elk. It's a beautiful, light, and very deadly weapon. Personally I like the Cold Steel boar spear because it can protect you... http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...pear-1.1701427
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Blade attached to a pogo stick is a great idea. If you drop it and miss it will bounce back up to you for a second shot. Sort of a semi auto spear.
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Blade attached to a pogo stick is a great idea. If you drop it and miss it will bounce back up to you for a second shot. Sort of a semi auto spear.
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That's wicked! lmao!
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