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07-02-2020, 02:32 PM
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Respirator for Spray Painting
I'm planning to do some painting using a HVPL paint gun and was wondering what type of respirator I need. I have a P100 respirator that is good for asbestos and lead, but it doesn't say anything on the filters about paint.
When I look for paint respirators, it looks like most are P95 with a rectangle shaped filter. My P100 uses a round shaped filter.
Is there anything special about these rectangular P95's? I'd rather not have to buy a P95 when I already have a P100.
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07-02-2020, 02:34 PM
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Most p100’s will say they are good for aerosol’s but there are actual cartridges for paint. What brand of respirator are you using?
Looking at 3M specifically the following cartridge numbers are good for certain oil particles: 2071,2076hf, 2078, 2096, 2091, 2097, 2291 and 2296. I believe the 2000 series are n95 and the 2200 are p100.
You can look up the cartridge number on the manufacturer website and it will tell you what it’s good for.
Last edited by Ronan_357; 07-02-2020 at 02:49 PM.
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07-02-2020, 02:56 PM
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From the McCordick website it says that particular cartridge is good to protect against environments containing oil, aerosols, lead dust and fumes, highly toxic dust, mist and fumes, asbestos removal and oil mist.
The organic vapour (OVP95) may be your better choice as it states protection from solvents, welding and glueing, spray painting of lacquers and enamels, pesticides and fertilizers
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07-02-2020, 03:04 PM
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That one does not work for paint. I have one like that. My son picked it up for me by mistake. Princess sells one like that but it has white or grey filters on it. Thats the one you need. Don't use an asbestos one.
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07-02-2020, 03:17 PM
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Must have activated charcoal filters. A paper pre filter on some prolongs the life of the charcoal.
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07-02-2020, 03:54 PM
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Call up a body shop supply house or an auto body shop and ask.
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07-02-2020, 04:12 PM
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Southtown Napa supplies body shops and would have your answer and a mask. Ive bought many auto parts and body supply stuff from them over the years.
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07-02-2020, 04:39 PM
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The "P" in P100 is for petroleum products, you're likely fine.
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07-02-2020, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bobwayzie
The "P" in P100 is for petroleum products, you're likely fine.
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The "P" in P100 is for particulates (dust particles). For paint spray you require a respirator that uses organic vapor cartridges with a prefilter.
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07-02-2020, 05:51 PM
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Are you spraying latex or solvent based paint. For solvent you will definitely want a charcoal component.
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07-02-2020, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Strix
The "P" in P100 is for particulates (dust particles). For paint spray you require a respirator that uses organic vapor cartridges with a prefilter.
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This is correct. 👍🏼
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07-02-2020, 06:23 PM
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I'm spraying water based version of tremclad.
Thanks for everyone's input. I'm going to buy the paint respirator just to be safe.
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07-02-2020, 06:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strix
The "P" in P100 is for particulates (dust particles). For paint spray you require a respirator that uses organic vapor cartridges with a prefilter.
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The P in P100 stands for “proof” as in “oilproof”.
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07-02-2020, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dwedmon
I'm spraying water based version of tremclad.
Thanks for everyone's input. I'm going to buy the paint respirator just to be safe.
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Your best bet is to go to a safety supply house and tell them what you are doing and let them outfit you.
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07-03-2020, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bobwayzie
The "P" in P100 is for petroleum products, you're likely fine.
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This ^^^ Organic Vapors. Cartridge should be no older than 3 months. As soon as the cartridge is removed from the packaging the charcoal will draw in what is in the air.
You are good to go.
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07-03-2020, 09:20 AM
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You need to look at the VOC content of your paint. If it is 0.0 then your are ok with the regular p100 mask with a proper fit. If there is a VOC content then you should use an Organic Vapor or "OV" set of filters. They will have a black stripe around the sides of the cartridge. Theses are the ones you want for the mask you have. https://www.princessauto.com/en/deta...es/A-p8173692e .The page shows them as P95 but that is the white prefilter that goes on top of the OV cartridges. The white filters can be replaced as needed. You could even choose not to use them but that will greatly reduce the life of the filters. When you can smell fumes or 3 months after opening the cartridges, which ever comes first you should replace them. You can store the respirator in the Large Ziplock bag to prolong its life somewhat when not in use.
Now if you are getting into some high VOC paints like automotive paints or Endura you may legally be required to do the painting in an approved booth with an air supplied respiration system. Not doing so could net you some very hefty fines if your neighbor chooses to report you.
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07-03-2020, 11:26 AM
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https://www.majorsafety.com/blogs/ne...r95-respirator
P rating means resistant to oil. Read the above and search their pages.
If that does not answer your question look up 3m respirator cartridges and it will explain in more detail.
When passing on information especially to do with safety please pass on the proper information.
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07-03-2020, 12:31 PM
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When passing on information especially to do with safety please pass on the proper information.
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This x2
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07-03-2020, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strix
The "P" in P100 is for particulates (dust particles). For paint spray you require a respirator that uses organic vapor cartridges with a prefilter.
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...which the P100 covers according to 3Ms website......
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07-03-2020, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobwayzie
...which the P100 covers according to 3Ms website......
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OKay, I see where the confusion is coming in. There is a 3M P100 particulate respirator (p/n 8293) which I was referring to, as well as a 3M P100 cartridge respirator (p/n 60926) which you were referring to. Got it. Tks.
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