6.5 Grendal Kills, including a 752 yrd speed goat

[Stinky Coyote]

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showt...yard-speedgoat

Yup i bet he's got the current record. But just wanted to pass a long some other stuff too.

The 6.5 Grendel forum has a hunting section and also a multi-page thread collecting kill data on all sorts of game. There is one guy killing all sorts of wolves. There's some elk. Tons of hogs/deer/coyotes. Some funny guys who've shot squirrels with them and documented.

I just saw Neil Davies with Hornady post on Instagram two kills so far in Africa with a CZ shooting the 123gr sst load. One was a 200 yard gemsbok! Pretty sweet. Looks like he's there right now putting the grendel through some plains game paces.

And some guys think the Creedmoor is wimpy.

If all goes according to plan there will be a non-trophy sheep and a bull moose added to this cartridge by the end of this season.

accuracy, fps at impact, and appropriate s.d. is a proven formula

pushing the limits there no doubt, likely around 1500 fps impact with the 123 a-max factory load by looks of it, 22" barrel, 600 ft/lbs energy but the ft/lbs is not the tale...the tale is well placed 1500 fps, s.d. .252 and a smaller thin skinned animal

[silver lab]

The 6.5 Grendel make no sense to me. The 260 or 6.5 creadmore have more hp and lets face it, recoil is not a issue with any of these.
Oh and with today’s bullets “sd” equals nothing anymore.
Am I missing something with the Grendel?

[rem338win]

Nothing magical. SC just currently want a yo have imaginary babies with the Grendal because it's efficient and little. We all have these stages.

6.5x47L for life!

[Stinky Coyote]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Nothing magical. SC just currently want a to have imaginary babies with the Grendal because it's efficient and little. We all have these stages.

6.5x47L for life!

lmfao! favorite post so far

[catnthehat]

Originally Posted by silver lab

The 6.5 Grendel make no sense to me. The 260 or 6.5 creadmore have more hp and lets face it, recoil is not a issue with any of these.
Oh and with today’s bullets “sd” equals nothing anymore.
Am I missing something with the Grendel?

No, nothing except maybe it can go into an AR action which means duddlybup here as a hunting rifle anyway
Cat

[Salavee]

Kinda like catching a 30 lb fish on 4lb test line. Somebody has to try it but likely a few break offs as well... that we never hear about.

[West O'5]

Originally Posted by Salavee

Kinda like catching a 30 lb fish on 4lb test line. Somebody has to try it but likely a few break offs as well... that we never hear about.

....or like bowhunting for grizz,Cape Buffalo,sheep,treed cougars.....yea it CAN BE done.....most people can't or at least shouldn't ....others just like to stroke their egos.

[Kurt505]

Originally Posted by Salavee

Kinda like catching a 30 lb fish on 4lb test line. Somebody has to try it but likely a few break offs as well... that we never hear about.

There is only 100fps difference between the Swede and Grendel with a 120gr bullet, so is the Swede like using 6lb test to catch the fish?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5mm_Grendel

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5×55mm_Swedish

A 120gr bullet wouldn't be my first choice for moose and elk, but I did see a 130gr 6.5 bullet drop a moose like the hammer of Thor.

How long has the Swede been considered such a good hunting cartridge?

[Salavee]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

There is only 100fps difference between the Swede and Grendel with a 120gr bullet, so is the Swede like using 6lb test to catch the fish?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5mm_Grendel

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5×55mm_Swedish

A 120gr bullet wouldn't be my first choice for moose and elk, but I did see a 130gr 6.5 bullet drop a moose like the hammer of Thor.


How long has the Swede been considered such a good hunting cartridge?

[QUOTE=Kurt505;3802026]There is only 100fps difference between the Swede and Grendel with a 120gr bullet, so is the Swede like using 6lb test to catch the fish?


Nice Fish ! ...just another 340 fps to go to catch the Swede. Try again, but search something other than Wikipedia for your ballistic data.

[DiabeticKripple]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

No, nothing except maybe it can go into an AR action which means duddlybup here as a hunting rifle anyway
Cat

The Maccabee SLR is a NR AR-type rifle that uses all AR15 parts.

I think im going to get a lower with 2 uppers, one being the 6.5 grendel for deer.

[silver lab]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

No, nothing except maybe it can go into an AR action which means duddlybup here as a hunting rifle anyway
Cat

Never thought about that..... If I was going to use that type of platform I would go with the 6.5 G.

[Stinky Coyote]

Originally Posted by silver lab

Never thought about that..... If I was going to use that type of platform I would go with the 6.5 G.

It is the ultimate choice in that platform!

It does even more overachieving than the other choices in that platform than say the 6.5 creedmoor does over it's short action counterparts, or at the very least the same.

[Stinky Coyote]

Originally Posted by catnthehat

No, nothing except maybe it can go into an AR action which means duddlybup here as a hunting rifle anyway
Cat

https://albertatacticalrifle.com/hik...ry_pathway-138

https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/Pr...Key-Mod-Black-

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-american/

http://store.prophetriver.com/cz-6-5...able-magazine/

There's 26" barrel target version from cz also avail, have seen on u.s. sites.

Then the affordable Howa rifles and barreled actions, also get from Prophet River Firearms.

http://store.prophetriver.com/1500-mini-action/

https://www.legacysports.com/catalog...-action-rifle/

https://www.legacysports.com/catalog...ction-chassis/

mdt over in B.C. makes the LSS chassis for Howa Mini Actions so you can build your own pretty easy.

https://mdttac.ca/products/lss-chass...nt=43806457871

I'm building those Howa's on MDT LSS for the boys, using AR adjustable length of pull butt stocks like the magpul ctr will fit anyone anysize anytime. The CZ 527 American is for me though.

Say like 5000 round barrel life...what's not to love?

Ruger makes a cheap american in 6.5 grendel also but most seem to prefer the Howa's and Cz's.

Be nice to see other manufacturers building .223 length actions jump on the 6.5 grendel thing...sako/tikka would be nice additional options, maybe see some more extra short bolts. The cartridge certainly brings this new action length into the hunters realm.

[catnthehat]

There are other options as good or better fir a bolt action especially a target rifle where action length is moot
Cat

[mattthegorby]

Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote

https://albertatacticalrifle.com/hik...ry_pathway-138

https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/Pr...Key-Mod-Black-

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-american/

http://store.prophetriver.com/cz-6-5...able-magazine/

There's 26" barrel target version from cz also avail, have seen on u.s. sites.

Then the affordable Howa rifles and barreled actions, also get from Prophet River Firearms.

http://store.prophetriver.com/1500-mini-action/

https://www.legacysports.com/catalog...-action-rifle/

https://www.legacysports.com/catalog...ction-chassis/

mdt over in B.C. makes the LSS chassis for Howa Mini Actions so you can build your own pretty easy.

https://mdttac.ca/products/lss-chass...nt=43806457871

I'm building those Howa's on MDT LSS for the boys, using AR adjustable length of pull butt stocks like the magpul ctr will fit anyone anysize anytime. The CZ 527 American is for me though.

Say like 5000 round barrel life...what's not to love?

Ruger makes a cheap american in 6.5 grendel also but most seem to prefer the Howa's and Cz's.

Be nice to see other manufacturers building .223 length actions jump on the 6.5 grendel thing...sako/tikka would be nice additional options, maybe see some more extra short bolts. The cartridge certainly brings this new action length into the hunters realm.

I have a 452 Lux and eventually I would like to get a 527 Lux, that would be cool if 6.5 G was an option. If folks buy the 527 American in 6.5 G, maybe they will.

[Don_Parsons]

Good to see that each caliber getting time to spend on the Podium of Fame even if its a short stint.

The good old Musket had its day 540+ years ago, it will be Intresting to see what happens when the new Lazar Popcorn cartrage comes on the market.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by silver lab

The 6.5 Grendel make no sense to me. The 260 or 6.5 creadmore have more hp and lets face it, recoil is not a issue with any of these.
Oh and with today’s bullets “sd” equals nothing anymore.
Am I missing something with the Grendel?

It's the new fad is all, many old cartridges did and still can do what is required if the shooter does thier part.

[Stinky Coyote]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

It's the new fad is all, many old cartridges did and still can do what is required if the shooter does thier part.

The beauty of this 'fad' is that it's not a fad.

Just as the Creedmoor has been recognized....the AR crowd south of the border is massive and the Grendel has been realized there. It's not going to go away. The Grendel will be around just as long as the Creedmoor will be. It's that good in that platform.

Might seem like a fad up here in Alberta and a land where most variants of AR's are restricted and we can't hunt with them but that's just our little part of the puzzle. The big picture is totally different.

It's fantastic because it's not only the best choice for AR platforms for any reason but it's also a fantastic little cartridge period, any platform, bolt action or single shot even. Another over achiever.

Think of it as the 6.5 Short

Call the Creedmoor just the '6.5', and the PRC the 6.5 Mag lol. Why look at anything else between these 3?

[Salavee]

Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showt...yard-speedgoat

Yup i bet he's got the current record. But just wanted to pass a long some other stuff too.

The 6.5 Grendel forum has a hunting section and also a multi-page thread collecting kill data on all sorts of game. There is one guy killing all sorts of wolves. There's some elk. Tons of hogs/deer/coyotes. Some funny guys who've shot squirrels with them and documented.

I just saw Neil Davies with Hornady post on Instagram two kills so far in Africa with a CZ shooting the 123gr sst load. One was a 200 yard gemsbok! Pretty sweet. Looks like he's there right now putting the grendel through some plains game paces.

And some guys think the Creedmoor is wimpy.

If all goes according to plan there will be a non-trophy sheep and a bull moose added to this cartridge by the end of this season.

accuracy, fps at impact, and appropriate s.d. is a proven formula

pushing the limits there no doubt, likely around 1500 fps impact with the 123 a-max factory load by looks of it, 22" barrel, 600 ft/lbs energy but the ft/lbs is not the tale...the tale is well placed 1500 fps, s.d. .252 and a smaller thin skinned animal

.. and all just to see if you can do it. Are there prizes in this game ?

[roper1]

[QUOTE=Stinky Coyote;3801776]http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showt...yard-speedgoat

The way I read this is a very, very borderline shot. 752 yds & he broke the spine? What's the dim-dot doing shooting a high neck shot at that distance? Or any distance? I hope the twit is BS'ing the distance or the shot placement, or he really should be shooting gongs........or an airsoft!

[Stinky Coyote]

[QUOTE=roper1;3802827]

Originally Posted by Stinky Coyote

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showt...yard-speedgoat

The way I read this is a very, very borderline shot. 752 yds & he broke the spine? What's the dim-dot doing shooting a high neck shot at that distance? Or any distance? I hope the twit is BS'ing the distance or the shot placement, or he really should be shooting gongs........or an airsoft!

Does look like got some lung with the blood in the mouth but i agree. Would take a pretty special circumstance to pull that off with any cartridge at the very tail end of it's ability to kill well.

Somebody is bound to test it like here but seemed like himself and his rig were smashing really well at that range before they shot presented itself so about as ready as you're going to get for it.

The math is there to support, also why i'm a big fan of the more frangible bullets like the a-max which actually has a really good reputation as a hunting bullet, even more so at distance as the lower speeds they open up much better than delayed controlled expansion bullets.

Since the Grendel is slow to begin with it only makes sense to me to shoot the ballistic tips/a-max types imo. The replacement for the amax being the eld-m bullets from hornady...just different tip material.

I believe the speed goat situation is entirely possible as stated, right bullet and just enough impact velocity to do its work.

Most controlled expansion bullets want 1800+ fps at impact but looking around for the more frangible stuff you see lots of reports of them opening up great 14-1600 fps. This speed goat a-max scenario would be right in the middle of that at 1500 fps.