New e bike for hunting

[elkslayer132]

Picked up this baby today can’t wait to get out on it. 14 speed no derailleur and no rear cassette.

[roughneckin]

Great way to access some tough spots. Saw a fella come out once with a moose quarter on his pedal bike. Looked like a great way to get meat out.

[Hunter Trav]

Any more details on the bike?

[elkslayer132]

It’s a Bakcou Mule Jager 1000 watt. 14 speed Rohloff speed hub with ultra mid drive motor, 48v 25ah battery and camo of course.

[astepanuk]

Slick looking Bike I'm really thinking about getting one for myself!

[waldedw]

Originally Posted by elkslayer132

It’s a Bakcou Mule Jager 1000 watt. 14 speed Rohloff speed hub with ultra mid drive motor, 48v 25ah battery and camo of course.

Nice looking bike, what do they run at $3K or so ???

[elkslayer132]

I paid $7700 regular price is $9600 with tax

[elkslayer132]

Originally Posted by roughneckin

Great way to access some tough spots. Saw a fella come out once with a moose quarter on his pedal bike. Looked like a great way to get meat out.

Pulled my bull moose out over a mile in three trips this year.

[roughneckin]

Originally Posted by elkslayer132

Pulled my bull moose out over a mile in three trips this year.

Nice. This fella had a fat bike and a couple friends so that probably helped too. I grabbed a pic but it won’t upload for some reason.
The weather definitely helped him but the mud he mentioned was awful to pedal through.

[livinthedream]

Originally Posted by elkslayer132

I paid $7700 regular price is $9600 with tax

Hey Elk did you look at the Vamoose Super Mammoth and make any comparisons? The Vamoose has a 750 Watt Front Motor, a 750 Watt Rear Motor and 26" X 4.8" Fat Tires. The front and rear motors can be run independantly or in tandum. Comes in Camo and is approx. $5,000.

[elkslayer132]

Originally Posted by livinthedream

Hey Elk did you look at the Vamoose Super Mammoth and make any comparisons? The Vamoose has a 750 Watt Front Motor, a 750 Watt Rear Motor and 26" X 4.8" Fat Tires. The front and rear motors can be run independantly or in tandum. Comes in Camo and is approx. $5,000.

I wanted to get away from derailleur and cassette as I have trashed two of them in the last 2 years on my quietkat. Not a fan of hub motors and ultra mid drive is the best there is right now.

[livinthedream]

When you say you trashed those bikes I hope your warranty looked after you? You must work your e bikes pretty hard! Just to be transparent, I have the Vamoose but I have not really put it to work yet. Time will tell but I think I will fail long before the bike does.

[pikergolf]

Bitrix has a nice drive system on there high power stuff, belt drive for the motor and chain drive for the pedals.

[elkslayer132]

Originally Posted by livinthedream

When you say you trashed those bikes I hope your warranty looked after you? You must work your e bikes pretty hard! Just to be transparent, I have the Vamoose but I have not really put it to work yet. Time will tell but I think I will fail long before the bike does.

Nothing wrong with bike just had to replace parts

[laker]

I’ve also been looking at bikes. Vamoose does look impressive first hand. I’m not too educated on all the systems yet. Elk can you explain cassette? Thx

[elkslayer132]

Originally Posted by laker

I’ve also been looking at bikes. Vamoose does look impressive first hand. I’m not too educated on all the systems yet. Elk can you explain cassette? Thx

That’s is where the chain sits on the back wheel for the gears some people call it a sprocket

[Dean2]

Derailleur and exposed gear set. The derailleur moves the chain from one gear to another. They are kind of delicate, doesn't take a big hit to break one or put it out of adjustment.

[Big Sky]

Cool bike.

I have both e and manual bikes. The e-bike goes through parts way quicker than the manual bike.
The extra weight of the ebike causes tires to wear more quickly, particularly the rear.
The extra weight and increased speed necessitate more frequent brake maintenance.
The extra power causes increased chain stretch and sprocket wear. This wouldn't apply to bikes with hub motors.

To the OP. What do they say about the maintenance on the drive system on your new bike? More? Less? Easier? More difficult? It seems like a system to consider when next time rolls around.

[elkslayer132]

Originally Posted by Big Sky

Cool bike.

I have both e and manual bikes. The e-bike goes through parts way quicker than the manual bike.
The extra weight of the ebike causes tires to wear more quickly, particularly the rear.
The extra weight and increased speed necessitate more frequent brake maintenance.
The extra power causes increased chain stretch and sprocket wear. This wouldn't apply to bikes with hub motors.

To the OP. What do they say about the maintenance on the drive system on your new bike? More? Less? Easier? More difficult? It seems like a system to consider when next time rolls around.

Once a year or 4000 miles just change the oil in hub takes about 15 minutes. Everything else is general maintenance

[-JR-]

They need to make some hunting zones that are walk in or e bikes only and no horses or even gas engines are not allowed.

[Albertadiver]

I had no idea those things were that expensive!

[NINJABABY]

I got mine from costco for $1600 and it worked great for 2 elk hunging sesons. Save tons of time walking towards my spots and once the elk were down, it took me back to my truck really fast too.

It is a lot of fun when I take it to the sherwood park shooting range. I ride it to 300 meters and come back after checking my targets at 300 meters and I see people still walking toward 100 yards target. They look at my as if I am an alien

[Hunter gatherer]

Originally Posted by elkslayer132

It’s a Bakcou Mule Jager 1000 watt. 14 speed Rohloff speed hub with ultra mid drive motor, 48v 25ah battery and camo of course.

Might want to check your regs. Here a motor over 500 watts is classified as a motor vehicle,same restrictions as a motor cycle. I live in BC your regs might be different.

[ramonmark]

Originally Posted by Hunter gatherer

Might want to check your regs. Here a motor over 500 watts is classified as a motor vehicle,same restrictions as a motor cycle. I live in BC your regs might be different.

Regs are the same here in AB. Over 500 watts would be considered a vehicle under TSA. On the back trails would be an OHV, need insurance, reg, plate, front and rear light. If you're dropping a couple thousand on a bike, insurance and reg is minor.

[fatboyz]

Originally Posted by ramonmark

Regs are the same here in AB. Over 500 watts would be considered a vehicle under TSA. On the back trails would be an OHV, need insurance, reg, plate, front and rear light. If you're dropping a couple thousand on a bike, insurance and reg is minor.

Actually the TSA references the Federal motor vehicle safety regulation definition of a power assisted bicycle. That Federal definition has been repealed so technically we don’t have a definition of when an e-bike is considered to be a motorized vehicle. The current industry standard has three classes of E bike, 1,2, and 3. Currently BC recognizes class 1 as non motorized and class 2 and 3 as motorized. We are waiting for Parks and Lands here to adopt a standard. My guess is it will be class 1 non motorized like most jurisdictions have gone. Class 1 means no throttle, assist stops the moment you stop pedalling, and max speed 32kmh. There is no longer a reference to motor wattage in the classes. Anticipating this rule I bought a Rocky Mountain Growler power play. I would hate to have spent 4-10,000 on a quiet Kat, or other just to find out it will possibly only be allowed on trails allowing motorized uses.

[ramonmark]

Originally Posted by fatboyz

Actually the TSA references the Federal motor vehicle safety regulation definition of a power assisted bicycle. That Federal definition has been repealed so technically we don’t have a definition of when an e-bike is considered to be a motorized vehicle. The current industry standard has three classes of E bike, 1,2, and 3. Currently BC recognizes class 1 as non motorized and class 2 and 3 as motorized. We are waiting for Parks and Lands here to adopt a standard. My guess is it will be class 1 non motorized like most jurisdictions have gone. Class 1 means no throttle, assist stops the moment you stop pedalling, and max speed 32kmh. There is no longer a reference to motor wattage in the classes. Anticipating this rule I bought a Rocky Mountain Growler power play. I would hate to have spent 4-10,000 on a quiet Kat, or other just to find out it will possibly only be allowed on trails allowing motorized uses.

Wow that's interesting. I know a lot of peace and police officers that charge individuals who don't have licenses due to drinking related charges in the past. And that's for motor vehicle on the road. The prosecutor's direction, if they're not pedaling it's not considered muscular powered.

[fatboyz]

It's been repealed at the Federal level for over 3 years. I know parks and Lands are working with Provincial lawyers on what direction to go. Hopefully we'll get a decision soon. Maybe some who have class 2 like quietKat etc. won't be in a hurry for a decision.