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Old 10-15-2018, 06:26 AM
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The biggest issue is rolling into the countryside and thinking that you own the place.Doesn’t work that way in your backyards think that it doesn’t work that way on a ranch. Blood,sweat,and tears equate to proper asking and respectful dialogue.
My back yard is deeded. Your leased land is owned by the queen and her citizens.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:04 AM
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Deer Hunter is incorrect. The rules around accessing grazing leases are governed under the Recreational Access Regulation under the Public Lands Act. You can be charged under that regulation for accessing that lease without contacting the lease holder. here is the section:
Contact before access

5(1) A person who for recreational purposes wishes to gain access to land that is the subject of an agricultural disposition that is a grazing lease or a farm development lease to use the land shall contact the disposition holder’s contact person and provide the following information to that person:

(a) the number of persons wishing to gain access to the land and, if the disposition holder’s contact person requests it, their names and the licence numbers of the vehicles that will be used to transport those persons to the land;

(b) the name of a person who will act as a contact for the person or persons wishing to gain access and the means by which that person may be contacted;

(c) the recreational purpose for which access is desired, the proposed date, time and duration of the access and the location, in as much detail as is practicable, at which the recreational purpose will be carried out.

Here are the fines associated.:
Recreational Access Regulation

1 The specified penalty payable in respect of a contravention of a provision of the Recreational Access Regulation (AR 228/2003) shown in Column 1 is shown in Column 2 in respect of that provision.





Item
Number

Column 1

(Section Number
of Regulation)

Column 2

Specified Penalty
in Dollars)

1

5(3)

250

2

9(1)(a)

250

3

9(1)(b)

200

4

9(1)(c)

150

5

9(1)(d)

500

6

9(1)(e)

250

7

9(1)(f)

350

8

9(2)(a)

350

9

9(2)(c)

250

10

9(2)(d)

250

11

9(2)(e)

250

12

9(2)(f)

250

13

9(3)(a)

250

14

9(3)(b)

200

15

9(3)(c)

150

16

9(3)(d)

250

17

9(3)(e)

350

18

9(4)(a)

350

19

9(4)(b)

250

20

9(4)(c)

250

21

9(4)(d)

250


The charges under sec 9 are for these :
Duties of recreational user

9(1) No person who for recreational purposes uses agricultural disposition land that is subject to a grazing lease or farm development lease shall

(a) litter on the agricultural disposition land,

(b) bring an animal onto the agricultural disposition land, or allow an animal to enter or remain on the agricultural disposition land unless the animal is under the direct control of the person,

(c) park a vehicle within the boundaries of the agricultural disposition land or block an approach to the land without the consent of the agricultural disposition holder,

(d) set, light or maintain a fire on the agricultural disposition land without the consent of the agricultural disposition holder,

(e) enter or use any building or improvement on the agricultural disposition land without the consent of the agricultural disposition holder, or

(f) cause any damage to the agricultural disposition land or the property of the agricultural disposition holder.


Now you know the whole story!
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:22 AM
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My back yard is deeded. Your leased land is owned by the queen and her citizens.
And the crown has sold the "lease" to the lease owner and charges yearly rental
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:39 AM
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And the crown has sold the "lease" to the lease owner and charges yearly rental
Key word lease owner? As opposed to land owner. He owns the lease to the land, but not the land.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:00 AM
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*Edit*

I stand corrected to my original post. It appears as though you can certainly be fined $250.00 for doing so. However, Deer Hunter's link indicates if you fight that charge in court you most likely won't be prosecuted. Interesting. Still never my recommendation to do so.

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Old 10-15-2018, 09:19 AM
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So many grey areas. Whole thing should be revised, shortened, and simplified. And then thrown into the hunting regs.
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:08 PM
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We'll maybe if deer hunter wrote it you'd have a point. But now your just trying to discredit someone's opinion you don't like by saying this is a duplicate account. Classic move for a bot.
Uh, what? Not exactly sure what you are talking about?
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:31 PM
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Camden,good luck on your hunt. When you shoot one. Please post a picture
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:44 PM
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Camdec my apologies on your name (Camden)
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