Hand loads for 17 Hornady Hornet

[Mb-MBR]

Anyone on the forum reloading for the 17 Hornady Hornet? If so, what's working best as far as bullet, powder, primer combo?

[tchardy1972]

Layne Simpson wrote a fairly substantial article on hand loading the 17 hornet. If I recall he had a difficult time matching the velocity of factory ammo and was just able to match the accuracy of it. If you could dig up the article it would ne a beneficial read. Good luck.

[Cofirearms]

Haven't shot them yet but I reloaded hornady brass with 10.2 grains of lil'gun with a hornady 20gr V-Max on top. These are loaded for my CZ varmint

[Smokinyotes]

Man if those little cases take 10.2 gr's, that's cheap reloading.

[Cofirearms]

Yep they sure do, it's hard to measure the .2grs with an old manual scale

[Faststeel]

Originally Posted by Mb-MBR

Anyone on the forum reloading for the 17 Hornady Hornet? If so, what's working best as far as bullet, powder, primer combo?

Send lclund a pm, he found an accurate arms powder that worked great. I did some loads with AA 1680 that worked well and some loads the H335 that shot well. FS

[C Taylor]

Seems like nobody carries factory loads sure going to be hanging onto the brass until I find some dyes

[double gun]

For you guys shooting the 17hornet - how loud do you find them?
I realize it's subjective but would you say they are comparable to the 22mag, 22hornet, or 223?

[north american hunter]

I have seen some factory loads at cabelas in Edmonton and shooters edge in Calgary before.

[lclund1946]

Originally Posted by Faststeel

Send lclund a pm, he found an accurate arms powder that worked great. I did some loads with AA 1680 that worked well and some loads the H335 that shot well. FS

AA 2200 works best. Here is a link to Western Powders data. http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-con...ec_1-23-14.pdf

Hodgdon have data online as well.
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle

Do not use Hornady' published loads with AA 1680 as they are too hot like the factory ammo that belw primers ans sprayed Fasteel in the face on a hot day last summer. I can bet Layne Simpson had a hard time matching the velocity in Hornady's factory ammo. Here is what a Factory Brass looks like after the web streches about 0.007"+. BE EXTRA CAREFUL WHEN USING THIS HORNADY FACTORY AMMO ON A HOT DAY
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[southernman]

Where are you guys finding accurate powders? I have little gun and 4227, but really want a pound of 2200 or 1680.
Timely thread as just prepped 100 brass, and deciding what load and weights to try first.

[lclund1946]

Originally Posted by southernman

Where are you guys finding accurate powders? I have little gun and 4227, but really want a pound of 2200 or 1680.
Timely thread as just prepped 100 brass, and deciding what load and weights to try first.

Rayner Shine Gunworks has it.

http://www.raynershinegunworks.com/update_005.htm

[Cofirearms]

Originally Posted by double gun

For you guys shooting the 17hornet - how loud do you find them?
I realize it's subjective but would you say they are comparable to the 22mag, 22hornet, or 223?

I find that's its a little louder than a 22 but a lot more quite than a 223

[Mb-MBR]

Originally Posted by southernman

Where are you guys finding accurate powders? I have little gun and 4227, but really want a pound of 2200 or 1680.
Timely thread as just prepped 100 brass, and deciding what load and weights to try first.

If you don't mind, post results when you've refined a load for your gun. I know there might be some variations due to firearms but would be nice not to start from ground zero.

For the record, I have a CZ 17 HH in the American model.

[u_cant_rope_the_wind]

I load mine wit 10grns of LiLgun powder, 20 grain speer gives me 3830 fps average , dime size 5 shot groups at 100 yrds

[Mb-MBR]

Originally Posted by u_cant_rope_the_wind

I load mine wit 10grns of LiLgun powder, 20 grain speer gives me 3830 fps average , dime size 5 shot groups at 100 yrds

One to try.........perfect....thanks.

I'm not shooting till this freaken weather warms up!!! Have the gun, scoped ready to go with a few boxes of factory ammo.

[lclund1946]

Originally Posted by u_cant_rope_the_wind

I load mine wit 10grns of LiLgun powder, 20 grain speer gives me 3830 fps average , dime size 5 shot groups at 100 yrds

Hodgdon list 10.0 grains Lil Gun as Max at 3629 fps and 48,200 PSI. Your velocities are abort 5.5 percent faster which could be accounted for by lot to lot inconsistencies and barrel differences. This likely puts your pressures at about 50,800 PSI and perhaps more as temperatures increase. Lot to lot inconsistiencies, giving velocities like you are reporting with LilGun, might explain the sudden, violent, pressure problems some have experienced in the small 17's. The safe thing to do is back off about .5 grains and bring your velioities down to Hodgdon's posted max velocity of about 3630 and keep the pressure down at safe limits. Better yet find some AA 2200 which is a much better fit.

[Mb-MBR]

Originally Posted by lclund1946

Hodgdon list 10.0 grains Lil Gun as Max at 3629 fps and 48,200 PSI. Your velocities are abort 5.5 percent faster which could be accounted for by lot to lot inconsistencies and barrel differences. This likely puts your pressures at about 50,800 PSI and perhaps more as temperatures increase. Lot to lot inconsistiencies, giving velocities like you are reporting with LilGun, might explain the sudden, violent, pressure problems some have experienced in the small 17's. The safe thing to do is back off about .5 grains and bring your velioities down to Hodgdon's posted max velocity of about 3630 and keep the pressure down at safe limits. Better yet find some AA 2200 which is a much better fit.

Guess the search for some AA 2200 begins.

[southernman]

For the record, I have a CZ 17 HH in the American model.[/QUOTE]

Fine choice, mine showed up at Xmas.

[Mb-MBR]

Originally Posted by southernman

For the record, I have a CZ 17 HH in the American model.

Fine choice, mine showed up at Xmas.[/QUOTE]

All that was available around here was the varmint model but wanted the American to compliment my CZ 223. Yes its a little lighter with a thinner barrel but I don't plan to heat up the barrel.

After all our gophers are sporadic and we have to take our time and enjoy the shooting. Sort of like quality over quantity!