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Old 11-16-2017, 09:59 PM
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Did everyone miss that his Tikka 30-06 is the worst gun he has?
I would take the 280.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:12 AM
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/...grim-1.4398582

Would love to know more about this. What load was used, shot placement....
Better for Todd Pilgrim to source his meat at Safeway.

Good grief... following up a wounded buffalo with his gun

"STRAPPED ON HIS BACK" !!

While dressed in winter attire,

having just been admonished by the 72 yr old

"Be very careful, Todd, have your gun ready".

Not too bright.
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:02 PM
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Hmmm. Never had issues with my Tikka in cold weather

I’d suggest the 30-06 with hand loaded 180 or 200 partitions
Or Barnes ttsx
And clean out the grease etc in the bolt.
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Old 11-17-2017, 06:35 PM
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:35 PM
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Thanks for the replies fellas.
A buddy will lend me his 300win for the hunt, shooting 200-220gr bullets.


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Old 11-21-2017, 01:59 PM
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they may recommend it
Well unless a person has shot a lot of bison and knows better, I'd follow their advice, and that of pretty much everyone else that has offered an opinion here. I've never downed anything bigger than an elk, so I got nuthin'.
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:05 PM
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Well unless a person has shot a lot of bison and knows better, I'd follow their advice, and that of pretty much everyone else that has offered an opinion here. I've never downed anything bigger than an elk, so I got nuthin'.
a friend owns a bison farm, he uses a 22lr.

he doesn't own another firearm.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:16 PM
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Thanks for the replies fellas.
A buddy will lend me his 300win for the hunt, shooting 200-220gr bullets.


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A 200grn partition or 180-200 tsx would be my pick in a 300wm. Will serve you well.
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Old 11-21-2017, 11:32 PM
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I'd use the heaviest bullet the rifle would stabilize. You can load some 250 gr. in there, that might be the ticket. 250gr. for the .300 anyway, or maybe a 220 for the 30-06. Degrease the bolt and give is a little shot of graphite.

JMO, but I would pass on "light" 180 gr. bullets and Nosler Partitions. With due respect to the partitioned bullet; they have killed a pile of game, but the whole front end is constructed light so that they will expand on smaller game at long range. And designed so that the whole front end can separate from the back, and leaving it do penetrate. The game you're after is big and tough, and likely fairly close, so it's a certainty that the whole front of the Partition will be shed.
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Old 11-22-2017, 09:13 AM
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Bison are big and tough, and they can absorb a lot of lead, especially if they are excited when you start shooting. That said, a 30-06 is more than enough gun to kill a Bison. Millions were killed with low power Blalck Powder rounds, but chasing a wounded Bison is a definite issue. Keep shooting till it drops. Loaded with Barnes 180 grain TSX you will get lots of penetration, and that is the key. Just make sure you study the layout of a Bison's vitals. They are built somewhat different to deer and moose.


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a friend owns a bison farm, he uses a 22lr.

he doesn't own another firearm.
And he can kill bison with that at a couple hundred yards? Well I stand corrected.
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Old 11-22-2017, 09:17 AM
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And he can kill bison with that at a couple hundred yards? Well I stand corrected.
no silly, he's a farmer he shoots them in the head point blank.
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Old 11-22-2017, 09:20 AM
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Thanks for the replies fellas.
A buddy will lend me his 300win for the hunt, shooting 200-220gr bullets.


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Just saw this, I still suggest you use Barnes TSX, except in 200 grains for the 300 Mag. A 300 Win mag is not going to give you significantly better killing power at 200 yards or less but more omph never hurts. Big consideration is can you shoot the 300 Mag as good as you do your 30-06. Where you put the bullet is still far and away the biggest concern.

If I could have my pick I would be using my 375 Ruger with 270 grain TSX or just because I have it too, the 460 Weatherby. Earlier I was trying to provide advise on using what you had.
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:49 AM
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I was drawn a while back and used a 7 wsm. 160 grain partition bullet. From the choices, I would not hesitate to pack the 280 AI loaded with 160's. Figure out your distance that the bullet will still have the energy required and limit your shots to that. Buffalo have an incredibly slow metabolism. Heart rate in the 45-60 bpm range and large amount of circulating blood. Takes a while for them to use up the oxygen in their system. Shoot them right and they will die. Mine took a while with 2 through the lungs. I had the opportunity to weigh him down but didn't see the point. Shot distance was less than 40 yards for both shots, I knew where he was hit.
Be prepared for a bit of work after that. Took me 10 hours to dismantle my bull and get him into the truck. 800 # of boned out meat cut and wrapped.
He did not get shot out of the truck.
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Old 11-23-2017, 09:58 AM
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I'd use the heaviest bullet the rifle would stabilize. You can load some 250 gr. in there, that might be the ticket. 250gr. for the .300 anyway, or maybe a 220 for the 30-06. Degrease the bolt and give is a little shot of graphite.

JMO, but I would pass on "light" 180 gr. bullets and Nosler Partitions. With due respect to the partitioned bullet; they have killed a pile of game, but the whole front end is constructed light so that they will expand on smaller game at long range. And designed so that the whole front end can separate from the back, and leaving it do penetrate. The game you're after is big and tough, and likely fairly close, so it's a certainty that the whole front of the Partition will be shed.
Guy just shot a huge bull down here in West Yellowstone using 200 he partitions. I’d estimate weight about 1800 absolutely huge bull. One shot in the ear dropped it as it was charging him. Lucky lucky guy.
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Old 11-23-2017, 10:33 AM
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Guy just shot a huge bull down here in West Yellowstone using 200 he partitions. I’d estimate weight about 1800 absolutely huge bull. One shot in the ear dropped it as it was charging him. Lucky lucky guy.
How did he shoot it through the ear while it was charging him??
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Old 11-23-2017, 10:39 AM
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Having killed a few buffalo on a farm, I'd say that a brain shot might be the best. I'd also say to aim for the ear, but that might be a really tricky shot with no ear visible to aim for... Unless he's decides on a cow.

Personal thoughts are that if you're going to be backup, a 45-70 with a slow moving heavy hollowpoint might be the best. Or a shotgun with slugs...

The hide of the last bull buffalo I skinned was over an inch and a half thick just behind the ears. He was a juvenile bull. Maybe 650-700 on the rail.

I'd treat bullet selection for them like I was shooting African thick skinned game or cape buffalo.
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Old 11-23-2017, 10:39 AM
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How did he shoot it through the ear while it was charging him??


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Old 11-23-2017, 10:41 AM
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Having killed a few buffalo on a farm, I'd say that a brain shot might be the best. I'd also say to aim for the ear, but that might be a really tricky shot with no ear visible to aim for... Unless he's decides on a cow.

Personal thoughts are that if you're going to be backup, a 45-70 with a slow moving heavy hollowpoint might be the best. Or a shotgun with slugs...

The hide of the last bull buffalo I skinned was over an inch and a half thick just behind the ears. He was a juvenile bull. Maybe 650-700 on the rail.

I'd treat bullet selection for them like I was shooting African thick skinned game or cape buffalo.

I'd get close and put one through the brain from the front if I could.
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Old 11-23-2017, 10:46 AM
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Tikka with 200g partitions @ 2650. Strip the bolt, and clean it.
That. Or an A Frame.
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Old 11-23-2017, 05:20 PM
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Buffalo Bill Cody used a .458 Winchester Magnum ... after his first encounter with a bull elk
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:38 PM
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Buffalo Bill Cody used a .458 Winchester Magnum ... after his first encounter with a bull elk
Now that's a remarkable feat since he died in 1917 and the 458WM was introduced in 1956.
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:36 PM
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How did he shoot it through the ear while it was charging him??
Last I checked people Hunting in bush can still move laterally if being charged. Bison can also bluff charge stop and turn etc etc... plus those big bulls will toss their heads side to side when aggravated presenting an ear shot. However personally I don’t know exactly how the shot presented itself I just know what he told me as I was the first person there after his shot and have no reason not to believe him as there was a good sized hole in the side of its head.
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I just looked through the entire reg book and it doesnt say anything about a .30 cal minimum for bison, just the .23 cal minimum for all big game
They send you an info pamphlet when you get your tags and it tells you where to shoot the buffalo and a min of .30cal .
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:51 PM
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Borrow somebodies 300 Win Mag and get after it.
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Old 11-23-2017, 09:01 PM
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no silly, he's a farmer he shoots them in the head point blank.
Yeah, but I'm guess there is little in common with a head shot at point blank and hunting a wild bison. I don't know how applicable that is to the situation presented in this thread.

BUT ...... If he was to try and sneak up to point blank, I'd be packing something with a little more punch.

And I don't think I'd try and get too close. 60-100 yards, IMO is ideal. Close enough to get a clean accurate shot with lots of energy to spare but also far enough if $#!t hits the fan ..... you can reload or run !!!!!!
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