Grizzlies

[WinefredCommander]

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...y-bear-alberta

John Clarke what a joke you’ve become.. peddle your bear spray training courses for your own gain. Your old colleagues are laughing at you!

[huntinstuff]

In my experience, meeting a lethal threat with a non lethal threat is poor judgement. You cant negotiate with a non-human apex predator....sometimes you cant negotiate with a human apex predator either

I dont believe any animal has greater value than a human. Like Ive said before, Id shoot and kill and eat the last panda bear if I had to.

[traderal]

Training course isn't as effective if real grizzs aren't part of the training.

[trailraat]

Originally Posted by WinefredCommander

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...y-bear-alberta

John Clarke what a joke you’ve become.. peddle your bear spray training courses for your own gain. Your old colleagues are laughing at you!

I think we are heading for a loss of access to the backcountry, especially in the National Parks.

It will be to "save the bears", but the cause will be because the bears will have lost their fear of people and a population explosion due to lack of hunting managing populations.

In my mind bear spray is most effective for chance encounters with surprised bears, a firearm is for the bears that won't go away like the one that killed those people in Banff last fall.

[Albertadiver]

I read that article as well, and contemplated putting up a thread here too.

Lots of 'experts' throwing around opinions in that article. I'm no expert, but, having spent a few hours in the bush myself, I just see this as a lot of Y2Y type propaganda. Sad thing is that the uninformed just eat that crap up....

[I’d rather be outdoors]

Why not reduce the bear population, seems pretty simple…problem solved, less dangerous run-ins.

[Albertadiver]

Originally Posted by trailraat

I think we are heading for a loss of access to the backcountry, especially in the National Parks.

Already happening, but it's due to people who have more claim to access than others....

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-s-joffre-l...tion-1.6861946

[Twisted Canuck]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

Like I've said before, Id shoot and kill and eat the last panda bear if I had to.

And *that* is why you are an AO legend.

[jungleboy]

Originally Posted by huntinstuff

In my experience, meeting a lethal threat with a non lethal threat is poor judgement. You cant negotiate with a non-human apex predator....sometimes you cant negotiate with a human apex predator either

I dont believe any animal has greater value than a human. Like Ive said before, Id shoot and kill and eat the last panda bear if I had to.

I don’t know , if it was Mr Grizzly and Mr Socks meeting up I think I’d be. “Go Grizz” 😈

[Stinky Buffalo]

Yep, Jungleboy, I think you're onto something there!

I think the solution is that we just need to ship our excess grizzlies to Ottawa.

Parliament Hill, to be exact.

[Bigwoodsman]

The politician should have a conference in a luxury tent camp in prime Grizzly country, to discuss the Grizzly population in Alberta.

They can cook a pig in the ground, a side of beef on a spit and enjoy the open air. Put some salmon on a rack to smoke, make it a nice experience.

No electric fences, night watchmen etc. Set up a few porta potties.

Maybe just maybe the politicians views on Grizzly number will be changed.

BW

[elkhunter11]

Originally Posted by jungleboy

I don’t know , if it was Mr Grizzly and Mr Socks meeting up I think I’d be. “Go Grizz” 😈

You and millions of other Canadians. The bear would probably have terrible indigestion, but would likely survive.

[Glas Ó Cairealláin]

Guy messed up. Period. Looks like he wasn't making himself known when he went into the gully. I carry my spray on the ready in a special holster so I can grab it in a second, and I try to not put myself out there in areas like that

Husband does bear control in the oilfields for BEARSCARE and is surrounded by people that are former fish and wildlife officers, trappers, and guides. The knowledge all these guys have is incredible.

[Pathfinder76]

I’ve had grizzlies come at me twice. One pulled up within 10 yards. Both times they knew I was there and exactly what I was.

[Pekan]

Originally Posted by WinefredCommander

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...y-bear-alberta

John Clarke what a joke you’ve become.. peddle your bear spray training courses for your own gain. Your old colleagues are laughing at you!

I bet you wouldn't say this to John's face would you? You god damm troll.

[32-40win]

General public's knowledge of the ways of nature and the predators, is pretty sad, see it all the time on one page I watch on FB. Many won't watch what is real, live in some fantasy world, if they see it, they recoil in horror at what goes on. I find it sad and comical at the same time, but, it is what it is.

[MK2750]

I don't think there is ever a time when a government official or "expert" should have the authority to decide how someone should defend themselves when their life is in danger.

This article reeks of Liberal propaganda that only professionals should be armed as only they have the training and state of mind to be cool under pressure.

Having witnessed many "professionals" fold under pressure I believe this to be far from the truth. On the contrary, two world wars have proven that ordinary civilians given the tools to succeed can and will.

The two campers we able to send a message presumably between attacks. How many would refuse a rifle if offered in that situation for fear of maybe harming your companion of wounding the bear as the article suggests. An empty can of bear spray and a radio must have been really comforting.

[bezzola]

Im at forthills mine and have bear scare team up there.
When i was at coldlake base with cenovus there was a team up there that had bear dogs that was impressive to see 2 or 3 dogs work a bear out of the plant and gone.

[landowner]

Originally Posted by Pekan

I bet you wouldn't say this to John's face would you? You god damm troll.

I know ranchers who have said worse to him imSW AB . He was not a popular officer down here.

[Lornce]

This is where a large caliber handgun would certainly help in the backcountry. There was a time I used a starter pistol to scare bears when we had the farm back in the day. Stupid regulations removed that. I fly fish in isolated areas a lot and am in my mid 70's. Carrying a rifle is a bit much to juggle with the rest of the goodies I need to pack. So I carry spray. I had a few bear encounters but not enough to ever deploy as yet. The only time was when two Rottweilers attacked my fishing partner. Stopped it quickly.

[FlyTheory]

Select hunting for residents only should be allowed on select units (make bear management units like for cougars) and study it very closely. It could be a great way for science to advance and control high population numbers. See if grizz would be more afraid of humans again if we started hunting them again. Could be a win for everyone.

[Sundog57]

Originally Posted by Stinky Buffalo

I think the solution is that we just need to ship our excess grizzlies to Ottawa.

and Vancouver...
Similar to Botswana offering to ship 20,000 elephants to Germany
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-68715164

[bezzola]

I stream/river fish in between edson and whitecourt i never packed my 12 until a few years ago now we see grizz every year

[huntinstuff]

Hes on 630 Ched now....

[walking buffalo]

Just stay in your truck....

Mama bear charges vehicle in Canada
(West of Cardston)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnRyIcGDgI