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Old 11-26-2016, 02:25 PM
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Lightbulb I’m Erin O’Toole, candidate for CPC leader. I stand with law abiding firearm owners

Hello Alberta Outsdoorsmen (Go Stampeders!)

My name is Erin O'Toole and, as you may know, I am running to lead the Conservative Party of Canada.

I am the only candidate with a detailed firearms policy, and when I say I will overhaul the existing system, I mean it. So in that spirit, I am inviting you to read about how I plan to stand up for hunters and sport shooters at www.erinotoole.ca/firearms. I welcome your questions and feedback on my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/erinotoolecpc

A bit about me: I was born in Montreal, raised in small-town Ontario and served and studied across the country. After high school, I enrolled in the Royal Military College and served in the Royal Canadian Air Force, where I was a navigator on a Sea King helicopter. In 2012, I ran for Parliament in the riding of Durham and was later appointed Minister of Veteran Affairs. This short video goes into a bit more depth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05jwFG_duVk

The grassroots members have a big role to play in setting party policy. I want you to know I am on your side. If you have been waiting for a candidate who will call out the Liberals for trying to claim that more regulations on you will reduce crime, I am your candidate. To win this leadership race, I will need your support. If you support my policy and want an ally as leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, take out a membership and donate $22 or whatever you can spare on my website today at www.erinotoole.ca

Erin

P.S. I will be back in a few days to try and answer some questions in this thread.

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Old 11-26-2016, 03:08 PM
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Thanks for stopping by.

If you are elected:

1) Will you get rid of the restricted classification? If not, what is the difference between an AR-15 and a Remington 7400? and...what do you see as the benefit of having a restricted classification of guns?

2) Will you get rid of magazine limits?

3) Will I be able to hunt with a handgun?

4) If the government determines a person safe to own a 30/06 hunting rifle and take that rifle out hunting or shooting on private or crown land, why is that person not safe to do the same with a handgun or ar-15 etc (restricted guns).


Thanks, and good luck.
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Old 11-26-2016, 03:41 PM
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Thanks for stopping by.

If you are elected:

1) Will you get rid of the restricted classification? If not, what is the difference between an AR-15 and a Remington 7400? and...what do you see as the benefit of having a restricted classification of guns?

2) Will you get rid of magazine limits?

3) Will I be able to hunt with a handgun?

4) If the government determines a person safe to own a 30/06 hunting rifle and take that rifle out hunting or shooting on private or crown land, why is that person not safe to do the same with a handgun or ar-15 etc (restricted guns).


Thanks, and good luck.
As well will you take classification out of the hands of the RCMP?

Who will determine what classification a firearm fits into?

Who determines what is prohibited and what is not?

Are you willing to enshrine property rights in the constitution?
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Old 11-26-2016, 03:54 PM
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Will you endeavor to have one set of firearms laws for all Canadians. Will Quebec be exempt from laws they do not like?
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Old 11-26-2016, 03:58 PM
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Will you endeavor to have one set of firearms laws for all Canadians. Will Quebec be exempt from laws they do not like?
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:01 PM
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Thanks for stopping in Erin, you've taken on a big job if you want to make law abiding gun owners happy again in this country. The RCMP recently made a tremendous number of us into criminals overnight with their decision on magazines with a capacity greater than 10, for the Ruger 10/22. This and many other egregious moves by the RCMP (a non elected body tasked with enforcing the laws and not unilaterally making decisions that make criminals out of law abiding citizens) make this the most important subject when discussing firearms and the laws surrounding them. Are you prepared to overhaul the entire body of law surrounding firearms and their ownership, and bring clarity to a very muddy, arbitrary, and confusing bit of legalese? And are you prepared to clip the wings of the RCMP, which has a proven anti gun agenda (Think High River gun grab, Swiss rifles that were reclassified, Ruger 10/22 mags, Beowulf 50 mags....its a long list)?
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:52 PM
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And again I notice and question that you are only standing up for hunters and sport shooters. Are you also planning on standing up for gun collectors, people who want guns for self-defence and/or defence of family and loved ones or hand guns for dangerous bears etc. in the bush or people who just like to own guns ?
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Old 11-27-2016, 07:56 AM
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As well will you take classification out of the hands of the RCMP?

Who will determine what classification a firearm fits into?

Who determines what is prohibited and what is not?

Are you willing to enshrine property rights in the constitution?
How about turf the entire classification system as was mentioned? Including the prohibited class.
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Old 11-27-2016, 12:49 PM
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Erin

P.S. I will be back in a few days to try and answer some questions in this thread.
As another mentioned, would you make firearm ownership a constitutional right? After Chretien cuffed us with gun control, Harper fund-raised like mad, and for 7 years about firearms rights. Where did those donations get us? 11 years later, the RCMP create laws as they choose, and the Liberals try to strip our rights. What will you do if elected leader, then PM, to insure our rights remain when you eventually lose as PM, and once again, replaced by the Liberals? Or should firearm ownerships rights, be a pawn played by political parties to garner income term after term after term after term?

Also, do you have any plans for Quebec if you were elected PM?
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Old 11-27-2016, 02:02 PM
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....Also, do you have any plans for Quebec if you were elected PM?
I want to ask the same question and other questions but as you've pointed out we have already had a CPC government. It was the CPC that left in place all the rules currently being used against firearm owners and the Canadian cultures dating back hundreds of years that have used firearms to explore, colonise, settle, farm and create Canada.

So I want to ask questions but obviously I'll get the same answers as before, which resulted in a major betrayal. Why would today's CPC be any different? If the CPC were going to do anything different they would have done so when they had the chance and said they would.

I think that is the problem. Nothing anyone running for election says can be trusted, and in particular any CPC member saying they would reform anything.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:17 PM
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Ok guys, I call Troll. It's been 3 weeks since this o'toole fellow posted the thread, and I was very interested to see what discussions would arise. On his first post o'tool made some bold statements, some concrete promises, and asked for money. Since then not one reply. I'm not sure why someone would start a thread like this unless he was serious, or to gather data, but since mr. toole has not bothered to respond to a single post from any of our members, you have to think it's pure BS. Hope no one got suckered into sending this poser any money.
Worse then not getting my vote oTool, you won't get my money. I hear it's much easier to get cash from the voters down east. Perhaps a religious forum in Quebec?
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:25 PM
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Ok guys, I call Troll. It's been 3 weeks since this o'toole fellow posted the thread, and I was very interested to see what discussions would arise. On his first post o'tool made some bold statements, some concrete promises, and asked for money. Since then not one reply. I'm not sure why someone would start a thread like this unless he was serious, or to gather data, but since mr. toole has not bothered to respond to a single post from any of our members, you have to think it's pure BS. Hope no one got suckered into sending this poser any money.
Worse then not getting my vote oTool, you won't get my money. I hear it's much easier to get cash from the voters down east. Perhaps a religious forum in Quebec?
I don't think he was trolling , there is a thread on CGN as well, but I don't think he was ready for all the rapid fire , off topic questions and accusations that were fired at him.
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Old 12-20-2016, 09:30 PM
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I don't think he was trolling , there is a thread on CGN as well, but I don't think he was ready for all the rapid fire , off topic questions and accusations that were fired at him.
I get requests for donations from all three parties on my email at home and work all the time, it is normal.
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I would doubt that's the case. Most likely lost track of all of the places he posted looking for donations and support.

If it was indeed the questions fired at him that scared him off than I dare say his skin might be a little thin for the political game.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:21 AM
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Ok, Maybe I was too harsh in my critisism of the OP. I have never heard of him and I'm not on any other forums. Just read the OP again, and if he did serve in the military then I suppose he deserves some thanks from the rest of us.
Just seems strange that he hasn't responded. Lets face it, he called us. Never like when someone from back East makes a bunch of promises, then asks for money.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:24 AM
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Ok, Maybe I was too harsh in my critisism of the OP. I have never heard of him and I'm not on any other forums. Just read the OP again, and if he did serve in the military then I suppose he deserves some thanks from the rest of us.
Just seems strange that he hasn't responded. Lets face it, he called us. Never like when someone from back East makes a bunch of promises, then asks for money.
They ALL ask for money, no matter what party it is.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:25 AM
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I find they can contact you all the time when they want money...donations...fund raising. But when was the last time they invited you to a constituency meeting? Seems pretty transparent what is important to politicians of all stripes.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:24 AM
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I would doubt that's the case. Most likely lost track of all of the places he posted looking for donations and support.

If it was indeed the questions fired at him that scared him off than I dare say his skin might be a little thin for the political game.
I don't think he was scared off, probably more like " man, what a bunch of nut bars , they can't even stay on topic!"
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