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ATV’s and bear hunting.
I kicked up a fair bit of eltorro Pooh Pooh the other day about the hastily imposed ATV ban.
Emails were fast and furious, and voila!
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04-17-2020, 04:52 PM
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What ban? Never heard of it.
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04-17-2020, 04:57 PM
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So if I read that correct if I have a bear tag in my pocket and a rifle 24 cal or bigger the OHV ban doesn't apply to me?
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04-17-2020, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 338Bluff
So if I read that correct if I have a bear tag in my pocket and a rifle 24 cal or bigger the OHV ban doesn't apply to me?
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that's what I gather also?
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04-17-2020, 05:16 PM
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that's what I gather also?
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Clear as mud, isn't it. 
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04-17-2020, 05:51 PM
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Clear as mud, isn't it.
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Yes it is!
The mud slinger, rip tear artists need not apply.
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04-17-2020, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dick284
Yes it is!
The mud slinger, rip tear artists need not apply.
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Bear license sales might triple. Never seen a Kolpin gunboot on a Banshee but you it might now. I forsee alot of arguments with CO's.
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04-19-2020, 09:54 AM
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Hi Is it any link where we can see all document?
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04-19-2020, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 338Bluff
So if I read that correct if I have a bear tag in my pocket and a rifle 24 cal or bigger the OHV ban doesn't apply to me?
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Many people carry a short barreled shotgun anyways when taking their ATV out, so now they just have to purchase a black bear license.
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04-19-2020, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lotars
Hi Is it any link where we can see all document?
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It’s a screen shot of an email I received.
Edit: did a google of the ministerial order.
https://wildfire.alberta.ca/wildfire...r-010-2020.pdf
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04-19-2020, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by elkhunter11
Many people carry a short barreled shotgun anyways when taking their ATV out, so now they just have to purchase a black bear license.
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We get some freedoms and folks still whine.
Incredible.
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04-19-2020, 10:17 AM
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We get some freedoms and folks still whine.
Incredible.
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There's always somebody trying to stretch the rules, Human nature. Common sense will have to prevail.
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04-19-2020, 10:24 AM
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There's always somebody trying to stretch the rules, Human nature. Common sense will have to prevail.
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Always will be. Always has been.
Don’t like it then don’t do it, imposing your own value system upon others isn’t a healthy way of going through life.
Seeing as it’s written into the ministerial order, it’s the way it is.
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04-19-2020, 10:53 AM
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I picked up my tag and was out most of yesterday on mine doing some scouting hoping to see some sign. Still lots of snow here so it may be a week or two before they get active.
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04-19-2020, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dick284
Always will be. Always has been.
Don’t like it then don’t do it, imposing your own value system upon others isn’t a healthy way of going through life.
Seeing as it’s written into the ministerial order, it’s the way it is.
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They say anything about fishing? Why would it be any different than hunting bear?
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04-19-2020, 11:12 AM
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wow and you wonder why it is just one buggered up place eh.....one states OHV ban in areas and then OHV ban doesn't apply if you have a bear tag in hand....a freakin' fire is a fire....if the guberment is so worried about a possible fire and then a repeat of fort MacMurray/slave lake fires a possibility toss in the pandemic then shut it down......if a fire starts and towns etc get evacuated where do they go??? who fights the fires??? without spreading the virus???
what a cluster eh!
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04-19-2020, 11:18 AM
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They say anything about fishing? Why would it be any different than hunting bear?
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I saw nothing about fishing, which your licence is good for till when?
Bear season had already started and a lot of folks had already started baiting and the season only runs till June 15th.
I know I requested a refund on my licence and incurred costs since the season was already running...... I think that’s why the bear hunting exemption as I’m sure many others took the same position. Also I kept asking why are outfitters exempt, since I’m doing the same thing as them.
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04-19-2020, 03:48 PM
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Privileges for a select few. How stellar. Lots of other people would like to enjoy the outdoors on their OHV’s....
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04-19-2020, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Quest206
I picked up my tag and was out most of yesterday on mine doing some scouting hoping to see some sign. Still lots of snow here so it may be a week or two before they get active.
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Son's girl friend is working near Christina Lake, no sign of bears yet. I'm thinking first week of May, easily.
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04-19-2020, 04:07 PM
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Privileges for a select few. How stellar. Lots of other people would like to enjoy the outdoors on their OHV’s....
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Just buy a bear tag (aka quad licence) and an SKS and you are set lol. Sorry, couldn't resist.
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04-19-2020, 04:15 PM
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Just buy a bear tag (aka quad licence) and an SKS and you are set lol. Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Lol all good. The idiocy in our world needs some humour injected into it at times.
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As of now, there is no OHV ban in the forest protected area.
Have at er boys.
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04-20-2020, 10:13 AM
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Thought All the crown land was no OHV for fire/corona. Only forestry/oil , natives and trappers exempt.
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04-20-2020, 10:15 AM
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Thought All the crown land was no OHV for fire/corona. Only forestry/oil , natives and trappers exempt.
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Your intel is incorrect........
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04-20-2020, 10:30 AM
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As of now, there is no OHV ban in the forest protected area.
Have at er boys.
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Unfortunately my county, in its infinite wisdom, instantly implemented it's own ohv ban as soon as the provincial order was lifted.
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04-20-2020, 10:58 AM
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Unfortunately my county, in its infinite wisdom, instantly implemented it's own ohv ban as soon as the provincial order was lifted.
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I'm sure that's going to happen for my area MD of Greenview also
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04-20-2020, 11:35 AM
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Unfortunately my county, in its infinite wisdom, instantly implemented it's own ohv ban as soon as the provincial order was lifted.
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Do you have a copy of your counties ban, or a link to it?
N other words which County?
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04-20-2020, 11:41 AM
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Unfortunately my county, in its infinite wisdom, instantly implemented it's own ohv ban as soon as the provincial order was lifted.
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Do you have a copy of your counties ban, or a link to it?
In other words which County?
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04-20-2020, 12:21 PM
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I saw nothing about fishing, which your licence is good for till when?
Bear season had already started and a lot of folks had already started baiting and the season only runs till June 15th.
I know I requested a refund on my licence and incurred costs since the season was already running...... I think that’s why the bear hunting exemption as I’m sure many others took the same position. Also I kept asking why are outfitters exempt, since I’m doing the same thing as them.
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Thank you very much for posting this information. It definitely clears things up. I was pretty concerned about it.
The info we received was that ESRD was concerned about the bear harvest and thus this was implemented to hit those harvest targets.
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