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Old 01-22-2017, 03:41 AM
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I'm curious to what I should look into for a smaller calibre rifle, I've done the last 4 years with my 270 tikka, which I love to pieces, but in recent conversations I've discovered a lot of people think it's leaning on over kill for white tail. And I've no valid counters other than it can't get more dead. And I've already got my sights on a larger calibre rifle from within the family.

So, for primarily a white tail purpose, and I do most of my shots standing, what do you ladies and gentlemen have?
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Old 01-22-2017, 04:21 AM
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Overkill? I personally wouldn't change a thing, definitely not smaller. I started off with a 270 wanted more power for Elk and moose so went to a 300 weatherby, then went to a 338-378 cause I could loved the power hated hauling it around so went to a 300 wsm in tikka superlite and bought my boy a tikka lite in 270 wsm and truth be told I love shooting his gun.

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Old 01-22-2017, 05:36 AM
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Can't beat the old .270 I would not change But if you really want you can kill whitetail deer with .243 25/06 7mm08 .260 rem Or try some bow hunting
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Old 01-22-2017, 06:09 AM
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Yep, that's the problem with the .270, it splits the difference between being a big cartridge and a small cartridge so handily that its hard to come up with a good reason to buy another gun. I started out with one and I've since owned both bigger and smaller cartridges... more or less to realise I got it right the first time. I still mostly just use the .270.

IMO I think the finest cartridge I've used for white tail was the 6.5x55, to me it seemed like it had just that perfect amount of overkill. No more, no less. That being said, its not really that much different from a .270. Besides the .270 I like to keep a rifle in irons around for hunting on days when the weather is miserable, and my Hawken just because its super fun to shoot and hunt with.
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Can't answer this question because it is loaded,
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Can't answer this questions because it is loaded,
Good answer!!!

I own but don't use my 270? The only reason is, well there is no good reason it's a tack driver and like The great Jack O'Connor would say it's an unbeatable cartridge. I shoot my 7-08 because I love it! So why would you change what you love by the way it is certainly not overkill.

Dang I tried answering a loaded question.
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:25 AM
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I really enjoy my 270WSM shooting 130GR Accubonds took down my antelope 2 deer and a moose with it his season. My step up caliber is my favourite rifle 300RUM shoot 230gr Berger hybrids.
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:33 AM
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Greetings from Antarctica!

I'm curious to what I should look into for a smaller calibre rifle, I've done the last 4 years with my 270 tikka, which I love to pieces, but in recent conversations I've discovered a lot of people think it's leaning on over kill for white tail. And I've no valid counters other than it can't get more dead. And I've already got my sights on a larger calibre rifle from within the family.

So, for primarily a white tail purpose, and I do most of my shots standing, what do you ladies and gentlemen have?
If you like it , don't listen to anyone else , the answer is right there !
Nothing wrong with the .270 except in peoples' minds - mine included !
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Old 01-22-2017, 07:42 AM
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What''s overkill? Deader than dead? Don't fix what ain't broke, use it and enjoy it but hey I would be the last one to need an excuse to buy another gun...
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Old 01-22-2017, 08:11 AM
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I owned 3 at one 2 huskies 1 weatherby gave one to my son still have 2 great guns for deer & elk
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Old 01-22-2017, 08:38 AM
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Gaaaaaaaa! I hate seeing deer shot with the .270!
I know that ballistically, it is great, and it kills them dead, but why do they seem to blow up so much meat?
Deer shot with small caliber guns is one of the reasons I have quit taking deer into my butcher shop. Ya, I know.........shot placement, bullet design, yada, yada, yada

So much wrecked meat. They kill, but in my books,......TOO GOOD!
If you're really looking for an excuse to buy another gun, GO BIGGER. Use heavy for caliber, well constructed bullets, and practice, practice, practice. A bigger gun just means you are already well-healed for moose and elk!

And dont even get me started on what I have seen done with the 25-06
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Old 01-22-2017, 09:28 AM
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Its a whitetail !, I know its a loaded question so I will stay away from the usual things that cause these to blow up. A 270 does not wreck meat neither does a 25-06 or a 338. Poor bullet selection wrecks meat (obviously shooting in the hind quarters wrecks meat but thats the shooter not a cartridge) choose a bullet weight and the proper bullet (bonded, non bonded,cup and core, H platform, etc). Do your research and there is nothing wrong with a 270 for whitetail. I would never own one simply because I consider it and the 30-06 a utility cartridge and if I owned one then I would see no need in buying others that do the same thing. I use a 22-250, 25-06, 7mm mag, 300 win mag, 45-70 each shoots one bullet and nothing else. I personally would like something a bit bigger (30.cal) for moose but lots like the 270 so i dont want to derail your post. I would place the 270 in at the high end of the 25 and the low end of the 7mm so there would be overlap for me. In short, if you want to shoot whitetail and you think a 160 is too big then grain it down. I f its a want then go buy a new gun/caliber/cartridge to satisfy the urge, nothing wrong with that
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Old 01-22-2017, 09:31 AM
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If you want to buy a smaller one go for something in a short action, 6.5x47, 260, or 243 for a find everywhere cartridge. Otherwise just match the bullet to the target, no extra meat wasted. Not many guys worry about ribs, so a monolithic thru the bread basket, and no shrapnel.

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Its a whitetail !, I know its a loaded question so I will stay away from the usual things that cause these to blow up. A 270 does not wreck meat neither does a 25-06 or a 338. Poor bullet selection wrecks meat (obviously shooting in the hind quarters wrecks meat but thats the shooter not a cartridge) choose a bullet weight and the proper bullet (bonded, non bonded,cup and core, H platform, etc). Do your research and there is nothing wrong with a 270 for whitetail. I would never own one simply because I consider it and the 30-06 a utility cartridge and if I owned one then I would see no need in buying others that do the same thing. I use a 22-250, 25-06, 7mm mag, 300 win mag, 45-70 each shoots one bullet and nothing else. I personally would like something a bit bigger (30.cal) for moose but lots like the 270 so i dont want to derail your post. I would place the 270 in at the high end of the 25 and the low end of the 7mm so there would be overlap for me. In short, if you want to shoot whitetail and you think a 160 is too big then grain it down. I f its a want then go buy a new gun/caliber/cartridge to satisfy the urge, nothing wrong with that
He hit it all right there...
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:03 AM
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jucebox...keep your 270 since you love it.

There are lots of "perfect" deer guns, and the 270 is one of them.

I use a 7mm08 as my main deer gun, but I also use my 7mm Rem Mag. Your 270 is right in between those two.
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:14 AM
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I also shoot a 7mm08, which I think is great. With correct bullet selection, It will drop anything I hunt in Alberta at the distances I hunt at. And is a great selection for deer.

I have considered a 7 Rem mag for Sheep though.
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If a .270 is overkill for deer, then what would it be ideal for?
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:28 AM
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If a .270 is overkill for deer, then what would it be ideal for?
A .270 is IDEAL for necking up to .284 or necking down to .25 ,,,,

I hear there is guy in Saskatchewan that is about to neck up a .270 all the way to .35 caliber , but he can think what game it might be suitable for hunting purposes ? ?
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A .270 is IDEAL for necking up to .284 or necking down to .25 ,,,,

I hear there is guy in Saskatchewan that is about to neck up a .270 all the way to .35 caliber , but he can think what game it might be suitable for hunting purposes ? ?
Weird, why would you not just choose to neck up a 30-06
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Old 01-22-2017, 10:56 AM
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Jucebox, why not arrive at your own conclusions and form your own opinion as to the suitability of the 270.
You seem to be stacking up some good success already.

As for those dising your choice, be your own man,
it's part of growing up.
(or I guess you could just give them the finger.)
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That's another great idea , neck up a .270 to .30 cal, wow !
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Old 01-22-2017, 11:04 AM
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Antarctica has whitetails??

I'd step down to the 243 from the 270, the bullets are smaller so they don't weigh as much, if weight is an issue for you.
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Antarctica has whitetails??

I'd step down to the 243 from the 270, the bullets are smaller so they don't weigh as much, if weight is an issue for you.
Or a .270 win loaded with .110 gr Barnes boolits ?
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Old 01-22-2017, 11:13 AM
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Antartica?

It is also a well know fact that the 270 is a superb cartridge for Tauntaun's. I wouldn't go any smaller for them.
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Old 01-22-2017, 11:15 AM
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Antartica?

It is also a well know fact that the 270 is a superb cartridge for Tauntaun's. I wouldn't go any smaller for them.
M,yeh , but a .270 might ruin a lot of good hard to get , Extraterrestrial meat
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Old 01-22-2017, 11:23 AM
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Greetings from Antarctica!

I'm curious to what I should look into for a smaller calibre rifle, I've done the last 4 years with my 270 tikka, which I love to pieces, but in recent conversations I've discovered a lot of people think it's leaning on over kill for white tail. And I've no valid counters other than it can't get more dead. And I've already got my sights on a larger calibre rifle from within the family.

So, for primarily a white tail purpose, and I do most of my shots standing, what do you ladies and gentlemen have?
You spoke the truth, but you also asked the question. I have no idea what was going through the ammo god's minds when they created the 270 but the most common game hunted in North America was White-tailed deer. I think the 270 was created for this very purpose.

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That's another great idea , neck up a .270 to .30 cal, wow !
Im not getting your sarcasm, all i did was as k a question, instead of being a regular AO member maybe just explain what im missing! I merely dont understand why someone would stretch a 270 all the way up to 35 caliber when a 30-06 is the same casing and would not be as big a stretch, next, I guess I should ask isn't a necked up 30-06 casing ,which is the same casing as a 270, to a 35 not just be a 35 Whellen (spelling). Not sure what the wow implies or your hammer head emogie means but i think its a legitimate question?? I get the 270 to a 284 as i dont know if the round already exists readily available over the counter but to neck down a 270 to a 25 already exists its a 25-06, please help me out here, im missing something
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Im not getting your sarcasm, all i did was as k a question, instead of being a regular AO member maybe just explain what im missing! I merely dont understand why someone would stretch a 270 all the way up to 35 caliber when a 30-06 is the same casing and would not be as big a stretch, next, I guess I should ask isn't a necked up 30-06 casing ,which is the same casing as a 270, to a 35 not just be a 35 Whellen (spelling). Not sure what the wow implies or your hammer head emogie means but i think its a legitimate question?? I get the 270 to a 284 as i dont know if the round already exists readily available over the counter but to neck down a 270 to a 25 already exists its a 25-06, please help me out here, im missing something
There is also a 6.5 mm / based on the .270 necked down , so to speak
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Im not getting your sarcasm, all i did was as k a question, instead of being a regular AO member maybe just explain what im missing! I merely dont understand why someone would stretch a 270 all the way up to 35 caliber when a 30-06 is the same casing and would not be as big a stretch, next, I guess I should ask isn't a necked up 30-06 casing ,which is the same casing as a 270, to a 35 not just be a 35 Whellen (spelling). Not sure what the wow implies or your hammer head emogie means but i think its a legitimate question?? I get the 270 to a 284 as i dont know if the round already exists readily available over the counter but to neck down a 270 to a 25 already exists its a 25-06, please help me out here, im missing something
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Im not getting your sarcasm, all i did was as k a question, instead of being a regular AO member maybe just explain what im missing! I merely dont understand why someone would stretch a 270 all the way up to 35 caliber when a 30-06 is the same casing and would not be as big a stretch, next, I guess I should ask isn't a necked up 30-06 casing ,which is the same casing as a 270, to a 35 not just be a 35 Whellen (spelling). Not sure what the wow implies or your hammer head emogie means but i think its a legitimate question?? I get the 270 to a 284 as i dont know if the round already exists readily available over the counter but to neck down a 270 to a 25 already exists its a 25-06, please help me out here, im missing something
Last I checked when the'06 sized case gets necked to .35 it's called the 35 Whalen .
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