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01-20-2019, 10:05 AM
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A gunsmiths opinion on Creedmoor
I found this interesting. I'm not saying it's right or wrong.....just an interesting point of view from his experiences.
https://youtu.be/5KDrLsnt2MM
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01-20-2019, 10:14 AM
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Face palm.
I would let Martha Stewart work on my firearms before “the real gunsmith”
Lol.
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01-20-2019, 10:19 AM
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Sounds to me like he has an issue with the reamer not the cartridge itself.
Not that it matters, a guy can find detractors when it comes to anything, be it Savages, Remingtons, 300 mags, 308 Winchesters, or certain trucks for that matter , and EVER ONE OF THEM ill claim they are correct and whatever they are running down is inferior to what they are bragging up, selling, promoting, whatever.....
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01-20-2019, 10:44 AM
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He seems to be basing most everything off of experiences from 8 years ago before the industry even really new what this cartridge was. Maybe that changed plater in the video but I couldn’t make it through.
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01-20-2019, 10:45 AM
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The cartridge designer does not control the tooling makers or the rifle manufacturers. I have worked with two rifles in 6.5CM lately, and the chamber, throat, and magazine dimensions vary considerably. Contrary to the nonsense that the person that keeps posting the annoying cartridge drawings continues to spout, the manufacturers do not all observe the SAAMI specifications. In my own rifle, I am able to seat bullets to the lands, and they still fit the magazine, but in the other rifle, loading to fit the magazine results in a jump to the lands of .100", with the same bullet. In the case of one rifle, the supposed advantage of being able to load long bullets to fit the magazine , and still have them close to the magazine, just isn't possible. But that is not the fault of the cartridge designer, but rather the result of the rifle manufacturer choosing their own throat length.
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01-20-2019, 11:31 AM
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Any issues ??
I saw this a while back, and took it with a grain of salt or 2 !! Bought a T3X S/S lite from Pud and it shoots bug hole and easy to clean-up??? Think they (Beretta) has is figured out.. Will continue to use it and my son !! 143 eld-x and H4350 match made in heaven !! JMO. everyone has some comment good/or bad of every gun-smith >>Nut out there.. !! use common sense and try real gun basic's !! We have a variety of components to work with and the quality of our reloads says who we are ??? Factory stuff is Soooo!! good nowadays !!
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01-20-2019, 11:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt505
Face palm.
I would let Martha Stewart work on my firearms before “the real gunsmith”
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Agree completely. I have seen a few of his other videos. This guy is an opinionated, pontificating, uninformed, blowhard that thinks he is the only one that knows anything about guns or long distance shooting.
The internet has resulted in the proliferation of these kinds of idiots because the soap box is so easy to get on.
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01-20-2019, 12:38 PM
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Laughing. I think I even commented on this video a whil back.
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01-20-2019, 02:11 PM
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There you have it. I knew the 6.5CM was no good. For those of you wanting to give away your Creedmoor pm me for my mailing address and I will dispose of them for you.
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01-20-2019, 02:30 PM
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Bit hard to listen to his style of talking, probably old news as well. Gather he didn't look at a drawing of the reamer before ordering. Watched the one on bullets as well, bit of truth and a bit of opinion and a bit of getting things off his chest, I guess.
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01-20-2019, 03:01 PM
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01-20-2019, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean2
This guy is an opinionated, pontificating, uninformed, blowhard that thinks he is the only one that knows anything about guns or long distance shooting.
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I didn't realize he was on AO. What is his forum name?
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01-20-2019, 07:51 PM
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I didn't realize he was on AO. What is his forum name?
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Pick one.
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01-20-2019, 08:03 PM
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He worked for Speer inc and Burris optics as the head of the tool and die / machinist departments ...... Doesn't know a thing about cartridges .........
Not saying he's wrong or right but pretty hard to discredit his background.
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01-20-2019, 08:17 PM
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Laughing
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01-20-2019, 11:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dweb
He worked for Speer inc and Burris optics as the head of the tool and die / machinist departments ...... Doesn't know a thing about cartridges .........
Not saying he's wrong or right but pretty hard to discredit his background.
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He worked for Speer for a year and a half back in the 70s when he was in his twenties and then 2 years with Burris scopes after that. Both jobs he built machines for production. He was not in bullet design, nor was he in a senior role or in product development. On top of that it was almost 40 years ago, a few things have changed in that time.
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01-21-2019, 10:47 AM
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Listen for 2 minutes fast forward to 5 minutes in fast forward....a couple more minutes...NEXT..the guy is well... boring, and not overly well informed.
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01-21-2019, 11:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean2
He worked for Speer for a year and a half back in the 70s when he was in his twenties and then 2 years with Burris scopes after that. Both jobs he built machines for production. He was not in bullet design, nor was he in a senior role or in product development. On top of that it was almost 40 years ago, a few things have changed in that time.
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Bingo!
My guess is the guy butchered someone’s rifle, got a good Ass chewing because of it, now he’s looking for someone to blame. I’m sure he was “let go” from both Speer and Burris and it’s not hard to see why.
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01-21-2019, 07:01 PM
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Ya, but his video quality is so good...
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