No changes at cold lake 2023 for lake trout !

-JR- · #1 03-31-2023, 03:20 PM

Very disappointed in reading the new 2023 fishing regs .
No changes for cold lake this year .
1 laker over 75 cm

HL_transplant · #2 03-31-2023, 03:30 PM

Wasn't proposed till next year. 2024 will be one fish between 65-70 cm for both Cold Lake and Pierce. It's in the Sask anglers guide.

-JR- · #3 03-31-2023, 03:44 PM

It should have been 60-65 cm and not 65-70cm ,this why we would have way more trophy lakers in a few more years . I hope they extend that slot size to Statues Indians that net .

58thecat · #4 03-31-2023, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by -JR-

It should have been 60-65 cm and not 65-70cm ,this why we would have way more trophy lakers in a few more years . I hope they extend that slot size to Statues Indians that net .

Sitting on the ice right now.
Iced 18 so far.
Lots were in the slot size…..bbq size.
Agree 60-65….too but it’s a start in the right direction

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HL_transplant · #5 03-31-2023, 04:34 PM

I too would have rather seen 60-65. But 65-70 is still an improvement. Peirce laker fishing should improve these regs as most fish are under 65 there.

pikeman06 · #6 03-31-2023, 04:51 PM

The mortality is crazy with lake trout, summer and winter. Saw a picture of an overnite net from cold lake from a metis friend and there was one big trout and the whitefish caught were bigger than the other 40 lake trout. Very low percentage of large trout. Go with a short slot to protect the masses for a couple years. Summer only because the mortality is there anyways. One trout 50-60cm. Protect that big year class below 75. Just my two cents. Catch and release is still killing alot of fish. Putting dead fish back has always been a sore spot with me. It's a terrible waste.

-JR- · #7 03-31-2023, 05:34 PM

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The mortality is crazy with lake trout, summer and winter. Saw a picture of an overnite net from cold lake from a metis friend and there was one big trout and the whitefish caught were bigger than the other 40 lake trout. Very low percentage of large trout. Go with a short slot to protect the masses for a couple years. Summer only because the mortality is there anyways. One trout 50-60cm. Protect that big year class below 75. Just my two cents. Catch and release is still killing alot of fish. Putting dead fish back has always been a sore spot with me. It's a terrible waste.

I think you mean treaty buddy, not metes ,as metis can not net according to my metis nabber

pikeman06 · #8 03-31-2023, 06:09 PM

Well he sure did!!! He was netting in 60-120 got pike wallies whites and a ton of trout. Check out Metis fishing regs online. It'll blow your mind.

pikeman06 · #9 03-31-2023, 06:12 PM

I just sent you a pm. J.R

Frank_NK28 · #10 03-31-2023, 06:24 PM

When they presented the seminar they specifically indicated both verbally and in the written proposal that they had to consult with SK this summer before any changes could take effect and if any changes occurred it would be starting the 2024 season. They also said the lake does not exhibit potential for a trophy fishery and that the over 75cm plus fish are not the prime breeders. The 65-70cm fish were the prime breeders if memory served and fish over 75 cm likely would not grow much more beyond that size even if left as unretainable.

HL_transplant · #11 03-31-2023, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank_NK28

When they presented the seminar they specifically indicated both verbally and in the written proposal that they had to consult with SK this summer before any changes could take effect and if any changes occurred it would be starting the 2024 season. They also said the lake does not exhibit potential for a trophy fishery and that the over 75cm plus fish are not the prime breeders. The 65-70cm fish were the prime breeders if memory served and fish over 75 cm likely would not grow much more beyond that size even if left as unretainable.

The writing is on the wall so to speak. The proposed slot fpr 2024 is already in the new anglers guide. 65-70 cm is the proposed kill zone.

Egymcara · #12 03-31-2023, 06:38 PM

Cold Lake is going to decline further and further. Lake trout grow far too slow and this lake won't support any retention. Just the pressure alone from catch and release kills too many fish. Love this lake but common sense won't prevail here. Seen many slots used on lakes and any fish that size just disappears and people start cheating on measurements.

58thecat · #13 03-31-2023, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank_NK28

When they presented the seminar they specifically indicated both verbally and in the written proposal that they had to consult with SK this summer before any changes could take effect and if any changes occurred it would be starting the 2024 season. They also said the lake does not exhibit potential for a trophy fishery and that the over 75cm plus fish are not the prime breeders. The 65-70cm fish were the prime breeders if memory served and fish over 75 cm likely would not grow much more beyond that size even if left as unretainable.

I guess Manitoba has it all wrong then.
Drive to bakers narrows just outside flin flon no different then cold lake type scenario but when I speak to the so called experts man you get different views even from them kinda like politicians.

Ohh well it’s a step in-the right direction

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Curtsyneil · #14 04-01-2023, 05:33 PM

I was always curious about alberta regs and how they come up with a slot size. Allowing fish to be caught and kept in the slot size only means that those fish in that size and slot will never see 76cms cause they will be dead. Just like walleye regs that are 1 Walter over 50cm key word (over). How come nobody ever consider’s a daily limit of one fish (under) a certain cm. Things would be so much better for the fishery’s if they did it this way.

simmered · #15 04-30-2023, 01:01 AM

What I didn’t like about that seminar was the size charts. Biologist had said that population above 75 was extremely limited and that There are barely any fish over 80cm. I had sent in an email asking if they use the tournament data from the my catch app and they indicated they didn’t. The top 10 fish are always over 80, and I know some of those guys are getting multiple 80’s in a day. I think there population size data is not always the moat accurate and wish they would use all resources available to them to make decisions before they do.

Frank_NK28 · #16 04-30-2023, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HL_transplant

The writing is on the wall so to speak. The proposed slot fpr 2024 is already in the new anglers guide. 65-70 cm is the proposed kill zone.

I am still hopeful after consultations with Saskatchewan that they will be swayed to go to zero retention greater than 65 cm.That is how SK does it and it's hard to argue with their success and the lake is half theirs.

SamSteele · #17 04-30-2023, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank_NK28

I am still hopeful after consultations with Saskatchewan that they will be swayed to go to zero retention greater than 65 cm.That is how SK does it and it's hard to argue with their success and the lake is half theirs.

The generic Sask regs state retention of 3 lake trout, with only 1 over 65 cm. Pierce Lake is reduced to 2 lake trout with only 1 over 65 cm. It is not zero retention over 65.

Frank_NK28 · #18 04-30-2023, 03:59 PM

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The generic Sask regs state retention of 3 lake trout, with only 1 over 65 cm. Pierce Lake is reduced to 2 lake trout with only 1 over 65 cm. It is not zero retention over 65.

You are right, my mistake on the 65cm rule.

sendmethem · #19 05-22-2023, 11:19 PM

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sendmethem · #20 05-22-2023, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by simmered

What I didn’t like about that seminar was the size charts. Biologist had said that population above 75 was extremely limited and that There are barely any fish over 80cm. I had sent in an email asking if they use the tournament data from the my catch app and they indicated they didn’t. The top 10 fish are always over 80, and I know some of those guys are getting multiple 80’s in a day. I think there population size data is not always the moat accurate and wish they would use all resources available to them to make decisions before they do.

this.

sendmethem · #21 05-22-2023, 11:30 PM

Way more dead fish in Pierce if they change the regs as proposed. Limits at least stop the carnage but unattainable limits will have the reverse effect. They are similar but not the same fishery (Cold and Pierce) and thus should not be managed the same. Nothing wrong with the regs as is, been a quality fishery and still is. Ridiculous proposal. I'll be writing to SK Gov expressing my displeasure with the proposed changes (for Pierce anyway).

Frank_NK28 · #22 05-23-2023, 01:53 AM

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I think you mean treaty buddy, not metes ,as metis can not net according to my metis nabber

Yes actually they can. I had a copy of the harvesting rights allowed for members of the Alberta Metis Association and netting is allowed in designated waters with nets of a governed size.

Trappingman · #23 05-27-2023, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank_NK28

Yes actually they can. I had a copy of the harvesting rights allowed for members of the Alberta Metis Association and netting is allowed in designated waters with nets of a governed size.

Not all Métis can set nets they have to be an approved harvester and be in their zone