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04-16-2015, 02:51 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 141
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Expired PAL
Unfortunately during the move I failed to update my information on the GCkey site for online renewal so I never received my 90 day notice. Regardless a buddy at work was renewing his and it reminded me to check mine. When I checked my PAL had expired 2 days ago. Looking at the forms I need to provide proof of passing the Canadian Firearms Safety Course. My question is whether I need to contact the CFO or is my expired PAL number proof of completion?
Shame on me...
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04-16-2015, 05:07 AM
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 93
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I had mine expire as well and had to complete the full application. I just provided my previous PAL number and all was good. I got mine back in about three months.
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04-16-2015, 05:37 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Leduc
Posts: 65
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Pal
I had the same thing happen. So I called and they said you have to re apply and where it says proof of passing they just told me to write already on file and there was no problems at all.
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04-16-2015, 06:12 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
Posts: 3,872
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Mine expired in May of last year, I was not aware of it until November 1. I sent in my renewal in December, still waiting!
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04-16-2015, 06:48 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 1,576
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Originally Posted by edmhunter
Mine expired in May of last year, I was not aware of it until November 1. I sent in my renewal in December, still waiting!
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Keep calling them. Over and over.
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04-16-2015, 06:53 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
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I think I have called at least 20 times!
What me off is that I have been hunting since I was 5, had my hunters safety certificate since I was 9, I am 54 with no criminal record not even a DUI, so why the hold up??? Stupid system if you ask me!
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04-16-2015, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2015
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I have been in the same situations earlier.. Just provide the old PAL number and there you go.
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04-16-2015, 11:59 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: St. Albert, AB
Posts: 1,178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edmhunter
Mine expired in May of last year, I was not aware of it until November 1. I sent in my renewal in December, still waiting!
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Id be following it up higher up the ladder I sent mine in middle of March for renewal and already have my new one back
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04-16-2015, 12:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 8,497
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Originally Posted by edmhunter
I think I have called at least 20 times!
What me off is that I have been hunting since I was 5, had my hunters safety certificate since I was 9, I am 54 with no criminal record not even a DUI, so why the hold up??? Stupid system if you ask me!
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Cmon what kind of hunter are you?
No criminal record-Not even a DUI :sHa_shakeshout :
Get with the program!!!!
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04-16-2015, 12:28 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
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Originally Posted by omega50
Cmon what kind of hunter are you?
No criminal record-Not even a DUI :sHa_shakeshout :
Get with the program!!!!
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I am a very crafty and intelligent one!!! hehe
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04-16-2015, 01:34 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,854
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Originally Posted by edmhunter
I am a very crafty and intelligent one!!! hehe
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But not crafty enough to renew your Pal ontime!
Just teasing.
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04-16-2015, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
Posts: 3,872
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Originally Posted by Thinlizzy
But not crafty enough to renew your Pal ontime!
Just teasing.
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At the time it was the least of my concerns, both my parents passed away and a stupid plumber burned down no place. Under normal circumstances, that would have never happen to me
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04-17-2015, 12:30 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 141
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Thanks everyone responding...as mentioned earlier called CFO today and just need to resubmit application and put already on file for proof of Canadian Firearms Safety Training...Lesson learned!!
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04-20-2015, 03:54 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
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Well I FINALLY got my PAL in the mail today, 4 months after I sent in my Application because it expired.
All I gotta say is whatever you do, do not let you PAL expire, what a pain in the butt!!!
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04-20-2015, 03:55 PM
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Gone Hunting
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Between Bodo and a hard place
Posts: 20,168
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edmhunter
Well I FINALLY got my PAL in the mail today, 4 months after I sent in my Application because it expired.
All I gotta say is whatever you do, do not let you PAL expire, what a pain in the butt!!!
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Why was it a pain in the butt?
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04-20-2015, 04:14 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 1,783
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csheep
I had the same thing happen. So I called and they said you have to re apply and where it says proof of passing they just told me to write already on file and there was no problems at all.
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Right on.
I was talking to a freind of mine recently. She had hers expire and thought she had to redo everything. Hers expired a few months ago though..
This thread is very timely.
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04-20-2015, 04:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
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Well mine expired in May of 2014 and I found out that it expired on October 31 when I went to buy shells for the hunting season, so I could not buy shells and found out that is was against the law to go hunting without supervision. So I missed the rifle hunting season for the first time in 45 years, which sucked the big one, BIG TIME.
Then even though my PAL was expired for only 5 months instead of simply renewing my PAL, I had to re apply as a newbie, which meant that I had to provide references and my GF's name so they could qualify everyone to make sure that I was sane and would not be a danger to the general public (I guess).
And finally I had to wait 4 months before I just got it today, after calling them many times to see what the hold up was. I am not even sure that I was allowed to have guns in my possession while I was waiting.
Bottom line - NEVER AGAIN!!!
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04-20-2015, 04:33 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Uh, guess? :)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edmhunter
Well mine expired in May of 2014 and I found out that it expired on October 31 when I went to buy shells for the hunting season, so I could not buy shells and found out that is was against the law to go hunting without supervision. So I missed the rifle hunting season for the first time in 45 years, which sucked the big one, BIG TIME.
Then even though my PAL was expired for only 5 months instead of simply renewing my PAL, I had to re apply as a newbie, which meant that I had to provide references and my GF's name so they could qualify everyone to make sure that I was sane and would not be a danger to the general public (I guess).
And finally I had to wait 4 months before I just got it today, after calling them many times to see what the hold up was. I am not even sure that I was allowed to have guns in my possession while I was waiting.
Bottom line - NEVER AGAIN!!!
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Hey, if you didn't notice your PAL had expired until the day before big game hunting season opened, I don't blame them for having you jump through hoops "so they could qualify everyone to make sure that I was sane..." LOL
Sorry EH, I just couldn't help myself. LOL
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04-20-2015, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
Hey, if you didn't notice your PAL had expired until the day before big game hunting season opened, I don't blame them for having you jump through hoops "so they could qualify everyone to make sure that I was sane..." LOL
Sorry EH, I just couldn't help myself. LOL
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Check out my post #12 above, under normal circumstances this whole thing would never have happened to me! They sent my renewal form to my home that burned down, so I never got one!
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04-20-2015, 04:43 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Alberta
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If you have a Prohib qualification, YOU DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN.
Grizz
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04-20-2015, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
If you have a Prohib qualification, YOU DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN.
Grizz
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What is a "Prohib qualification"?
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04-20-2015, 06:08 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Camrose
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I have never received any notice that my PAL was going to expire, because I always apply for renewal about six months before the expiry date. My new PAL has arrived in as little as three weeks, and it has taken up to five and a half months.
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04-20-2015, 06:56 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Red Deer
Posts: 4,998
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Originally Posted by edmhunter
What is a "Prohib qualification"?
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An endorsement on your PAL that allows you to own certain firearms that were legal before the passing of C-68, granted you owned firearms in that category prior to the 'new' law coming into force.
My grandfather lost his 12.6 endorsement this way. Shameful.
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04-20-2015, 07:04 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
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Originally Posted by 220swifty
An endorsement on your PAL that allows you to own certain firearms that were legal before the passing of C-68, granted you owned firearms in that category prior to the 'new' law coming into force.
My grandfather lost his 12.6 endorsement this way. Shameful.
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hmmm, know you got me thinking, not sure if I have that, but I was one of the first people to register my weapons does that work? How do you know if you have it? Thanks 220swifty!
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04-20-2015, 07:09 PM
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Gone Hunting
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Between Bodo and a hard place
Posts: 20,168
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edmhunter
Well mine expired in May of 2014 and I found out that it expired on October 31 when I went to buy shells for the hunting season, so I could not buy shells and found out that is was against the law to go hunting without supervision. So I missed the rifle hunting season for the first time in 45 years, which sucked the big one, BIG TIME.
Then even though my PAL was expired for only 5 months instead of simply renewing my PAL, I had to re apply as a newbie, which meant that I had to provide references and my GF's name so they could qualify everyone to make sure that I was sane and would not be a danger to the general public (I guess).
And finally I had to wait 4 months before I just got it today, after calling them many times to see what the hold up was. I am not even sure that I was allowed to have guns in my possession while I was waiting.
Bottom line - NEVER AGAIN!!!
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So it was a pita because of you not them.
I"m not beating you up for screwing up big time, I'm just sayin'
No cheap moose last year, so the price has doubled for this year. Just like beef,
I'll bet you didn't say a word about you posting on AO. did you? I'll bet you didn't put any of us down as a reference did you? Probably would have been hunting with a bow if you did.
I'm kidding of course. I'm not a fan of regulations and red tape, but I guess we have to tolerate some of them for the greater good.
Glad you're all legalled up again.
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It isn't a question of who will allow me, but who will stop me.. Ayn Rand
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04-20-2015, 07:10 PM
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Gone Hunting
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Between Bodo and a hard place
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That prohib thingy is mostly for carbines and other machine guns.
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I'm not lying!!! You are just experiencing it differently.
It isn't a question of who will allow me, but who will stop me.. Ayn Rand
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04-20-2015, 07:13 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Over That Hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfrog
So it was a pita because of you not them.
I"m not beating you up for screwing up big time, I'm just sayin'
No cheap moose last year, so the price has doubled for this year. Just like beef,
I'll bet you didn't say a word about you posting on AO. did you? I'll bet you didn't put any of us down as a reference did you? Probably would have been hunting with a bow if you did.
I'm kidding of course. I'm not a fan of regulations and red tape, but I guess we have to tolerate some of them for the greater good.
Glad you're all legalled up again.
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If I had of used anyone from AO as a reference I would have been deported to Nigeria! LMAO
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04-20-2015, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfrog
That prohib thingy is mostly for carbines and other machine guns.
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No, if you own a Ruger Security 6, A German Luger or a bunch of other hand guns, you're in that boat as well.
Grizz
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John E. Pfeiffer The Emergence of Man
written in 1969
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04-20-2015, 08:03 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
No, if you own a Ruger Security 6, A German Luger or a bunch of other hand guns, you're in that boat.
Grizz
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Any handgun 25 or 32 caliber is also part of that, if you want to get into stupid, redundant laws.
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04-20-2015, 08:08 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2015
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I renewed mine on line the day before it expired. They sent me a notice saying my range pass was expired. Said it would not be renewed unless I submitted a valid range membership, or I applied for collector status.
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