Econonmically - Canada vs Australia

[Coiloil37]

Originally Posted by Outbound

What are the gun laws, target shooting and hunting like in Australia?

Complicated for a Canadian without getting right into it.



It’s state dependent. WA is by far the worst for private firearm ownership.



I’ll speak to Queensland.



You need a legal reason for firearm ownership. Can be target shooting, hunting whatever. It all works. The class of firearm you can get depends what your doing. Pro shooters can have semi autos with high capacity mags and a muffler. Property owners in the territory are rocking open carry handguns.



For a simpleton like me I own normal hunting rifles and shotguns. They need to be in a safe at home. The ammo also has to be locked. We can hunt any non native animal any time of the day or night, all year with no tags, limits or rules. Seven species of deer, camels, water buff, wild horses, donkeys, cattle, pigs etc all the time. You don’t have to salvage anything and you can use thermal or spotlights. She’s the Wild West. In Queensland though we can only hunt on private land. The state land is managed by contractors who cull animals.



In NSW I got a hunting license and it was a simple course, a test and then I bought a five year license. I can hunt their state forests all year with almost no rules, there are no tags or seasons. I do however have to book into a state forest online through their portal and tell them when I’m going to be there. Then I go down set up camp, hunt and leave when I’m ready. On NSW private land is the same as qld, just a matter of permission.



There is bird hunting, target shooting, all the usual but it’s dependent on the state and opportunities that exist locally.



Some of the firearms we have access to here are pretty cool too. They’re not classified the same as Canada but again you need the right reason to own them.


Here are two examples.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

Coiloil can correct me if I am mistaken, but your boy is probably more likely to receive citizenship if he goes there as a tradesman not looking for a trade.

Australia has a one year work/holiday visa to promote young people to experience their country as an option to immigrate to. After a year he would have to apply for a different visa. I believe you need to be a resident for a few years before you can become a citizen of Australia if I remember correctly

If I remember right my buddy had to live there for 4-5 years before becoming a citizen but I would have to ask him to confirm

[HyperMOA]

Originally Posted by Smoky buck

Australia has a one year work/holiday visa to promote young people to experience their country as an option to immigrate to. After a year he would have to apply for a different visa. I believe you need to be a resident for a few years before you can become a citizen of Australia if I remember correctly

If I remember right my buddy had to live there for 4-5 years before becoming a citizen but I would have to ask him to confirm

Things have likely changed. When i was looking at Australia I was told if I had my HD ticket it was easy. My buddy that moved there with no trade had to get married to stay. Yes, it took him 5 years or better too.

[Outbound]

Originally Posted by Coiloil37

Complicated for a Canadian without getting right into it.



It’s state dependent. WA is by far the worst for private firearm ownership.



I’ll speak to Queensland.



You need a legal reason for firearm ownership. Can be target shooting, hunting whatever. It all works. The class of firearm you can get depends what your doing. Pro shooters can have semi autos with high capacity mags and a muffler. Property owners in the territory are rocking open carry handguns.



For a simpleton like me I own normal hunting rifles and shotguns. They need to be in a safe at home. The ammo also has to be locked. We can hunt any non native animal any time of the day or night, all year with no tags, limits or rules. Seven species of deer, camels, water buff, wild horses, donkeys, cattle, pigs etc all the time. You don’t have to salvage anything and you can use thermal or spotlights. She’s the Wild West. In Queensland though we can only hunt on private land. The state land is managed by contractors who cull animals.



In NSW I got a hunting license and it was a simple course, a test and then I bought a five year license. I can hunt their state forests all year with almost no rules, there are no tags or seasons. I do however have to book into a state forest online through their portal and tell them when I’m going to be there. Then I go down set up camp, hunt and leave when I’m ready. On NSW private land is the same as qld, just a matter of permission.



There is bird hunting, target shooting, all the usual but it’s dependent on the state and opportunities that exist locally.



Some of the firearms we have access to here are pretty cool too. They’re not classified the same as Canada but again you need the right reason to own them.


Here are two examples.

So not as horrible as I thought, considering how they rolled over and let the government sieze guns in the 90's.

What defines a person as a "pro shooter" so they can have semi autos and suppressors, are they competition shooters or military/police?

[Coiloil37]

Originally Posted by Outbound

So not as horrible as I thought, considering how they rolled over and let the government sieze guns in the 90's.

What defines a person as a "pro shooter" so they can have semi autos and suppressors, are they competition shooters or military/police?

They’ll do contract work to cull animals for either the gov or property owners. If you own enough land or have permission from a property owner you can get a license to own semi autos.

There is also a petition going through Queensland to legalise silencers to reduce noise pollution. Nathan from the second link below is one of the guys spearheading that initiative and it’s looking like they’re getting some traction. If you search his videos in YouTube he's done some updates on it.

Here are two examples of contract shooters.


https://youtu.be/jCQMGofVbZ0?si=NMlpk5wrRIUobq-c



https://youtu.be/ek5IzUgl_Ac?si=8lg5WENjRBJJ4vZG



If you just want semi auto handguns you need to do sanctioned sport shooting with them.

[Smoky buck]

Originally Posted by HyperMOA

Things have likely changed. When i was looking at Australia I was told if I had my HD ticket it was easy. My buddy that moved there with no trade had to get married to stay. Yes, it took him 5 years or better too.

Without a doubt in demand skills make a difference and easier. My offers were because of being a heavy equipment operator with mining experience. There is a ton of little variables considered. My buddies daughter actually became a citizen after living there under work visas in the tourism industry

It’s definitely not a country with wide open doors but there is options. Worst case scenario he qualifies for the 1 year visa that gives him an opportunity to experience living there and will know if he wants to pursue it from there

[Outbound]

Originally Posted by Coiloil37

They’ll do contract work to cull animals for either the gov or property owners. If you own enough land or have permission from a property owner you can get a license to own semi autos.

There is also a petition going through Queensland to legalise silencers to reduce noise pollution. Nathan from the second link below is one of the guys spearheading that initiative and it’s looking like they’re getting some traction. If you search his videos in YouTube he's done some updates on it.

Here are two examples of contract shooters.


https://youtu.be/jCQMGofVbZ0?si=NMlpk5wrRIUobq-c



https://youtu.be/ek5IzUgl_Ac?si=8lg5WENjRBJJ4vZG



If you just want semi auto handguns you need to do sanctioned sport shooting with them.

Lol. Between not horrible gun laws, some awesome fishing and the whole overland/off road thing, I'm sure I could keep busy.

Now I'm half considering a move. The US didn't work out for us, since apparently welders aren't in demand. Just gotta convince the wife and that's gonna be tough

[Coiloil37]

Originally Posted by Outbound

Lol. Between not horrible gun laws, some awesome fishing and the whole overland/off road thing, I'm sure I could keep busy.

Now I'm half considering a move. The US didn't work out for us, since apparently welders aren't in demand. Just gotta convince the wife and that's gonna be tough

Yea the fishing is pretty good. Have a squiz at this if you’re bored.

https://youtu.be/cLciF_SvrZk?si=tKuAI-i__B4ugu0k



The water is unreal.

[urban rednek]

Originally Posted by Coiloil37

It’s certain states and cities within those states. As for states, the ACT and Victoria lead the charge. It we narrow it down it’s specifically Melbourne but I’m happy condemning all of Victoria, they’re different down there. Sydney in NSW has some problems too but it’s not that bad if compared to most of the world.

If you speak to an Aussie about it they think it’s bad and getting worse but it was WAY worse than this in Canada twenty years ago. I’m happy they’ve got their eyes open and don’t like it.

QFT! Looks like Melbourne has people that would be right at home in many major Canadian cities.