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Old 04-16-2024, 04:13 PM
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Obama sent billions to Iran, so did Biden. Too bad they didn’t take any refugees from Israel….
Trump froze lotsa of that cash that Obama gave and Bidens is giving it back .

Obama still runs the show for Biden, Biden only holds the name as President .

Death to America all over the globe and Biden lifts there sanctions ,that's about as screwed up as it gets .

Obama never moved away from Washington for that reason .

Obama couldn't or really wouldn't get rid of ISIS ,Trump had them down and out in a small area in no time .Another great job he did ,now there in full swing .

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Old 04-16-2024, 04:13 PM
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Entitled to reign free? You must be kidding or totally oblivious! Israel is fighting for its survival! Not for colonies, not for some political agenda or somebody’s else natural resources- SURVIVAL!
Think about it….
^^^this. For Israel, this is a fight to the death. They have nowhere to run or hide, and will be wiped out if they ever surrendered.

I forget which Israeli leader said but to paraphrase:

"If the Palestinians lay down their arms, there will be no war. If the Israelis lays down their arms, there will be no Israel."
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Old 04-16-2024, 04:17 PM
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The trouble with Muslim extremists is that deterrence means nothing if on your death as a martyr you get 72 Virgins in Blissful Ecstasy.


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This is why Israel needs to target the leadership and not the foot soldiers. Those have have risen in the ranks seem to be a little less willing to take one for the team and are maybe a little skeptical about what they are really going to encounter on the other side.
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Old 04-16-2024, 04:37 PM
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Entitled to reign free? You must be kidding or totally oblivious! Israel is fighting for its survival! Not for colonies, not for some political agenda or somebody’s else natural resources- SURVIVAL!
Think about it….
occupied territory and illegal settlements say other wise.
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Old 04-16-2024, 05:59 PM
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occupied territory and illegal settlements say other wise.
And the Jesus himself was born in the family of a Jewish land grabbers- right?
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Old 04-16-2024, 09:32 PM
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A good analysis of what happened when Iran attacked, some sites were hit, and further ramifications to US and Israel, if Israel retalitates.

https://rumble.com/v4pn349-high-aler...update-re.html
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And the Jesus himself was born in the family of a Jewish land grabbers- right?
i think anyone who isn't blind can see whats been happening over the last 30 or 40 years , israel is not innocent , thats for sure .
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Old 04-16-2024, 11:25 PM
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i think anyone who isn't blind can see whats been happening over the last 30 or 40 years.
When's the last time you've been to the optometrists?
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Old 04-17-2024, 12:19 AM
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When's the last time you've been to the optometrists?
You got that right .
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Old 04-17-2024, 08:45 AM
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"We have neither taken foreign land nor seized foreign property, but only the inheritance of our fathers, which at one time had been unjustly taken by our enemies. Now that we have the opportunity, we are firmly holding the inheritance of our fathers."

These are the words of Simon Maccabeus, a Jewish leader to the Greek foreign regime in the land of Israel at the 2nd century BC as recorded in the first book of the Maccabees - an apocryphal work recounting the victories of the Maccabees over the Syrian Greeks and the rededication of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in 164 BC.
Over 700 years before the birth of Islam!
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Old 04-17-2024, 09:27 AM
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A good analysis of what happened when Iran attacked, some sites were hit, and further ramifications to US and Israel, if Israel retalitates.

https://rumble.com/v4pn349-high-aler...update-re.html

This is by far the most important post in the thread so far.
Watch the video from 6:50-26:50.

Scott Ritter appears to be a very credible source, with the background and connections to make accurate conclusions.
There are many other sources for interviews with Scott Ritter.
Though you won't find it on anything promoted or supported by the Israel or US government.

This is another informative interview on the same topic, with video of missile strikes that avoided the 'Dome".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7n1QVrc0N8


Put your biases aside.
Just focus on what happened and what it means.
If correct, and there seems to be evidence to back it up....

Through a thoughtful and measured strike, Iran has proven the weakness of Israel's air defense systems (AND the US air defense), and proven that Iran can easily penetrate it AND precisely hit targets with their "Old" technology, even after giving 72 hours notice .
Iran's advanced weaponry would allow them to aggressively attack (defend) with devastating effects.
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Old 04-17-2024, 09:43 AM
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I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop, it won't be long.
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This is by far the most important post in the thread so far.
Watch the video from 6:50-26:50.

Scott Ritter appears to be a very credible source, with the background and connections to make accurate conclusions.
There are many other sources for interviews with Scott Ritter.
Though you won't find it on anything promoted or supported by the Israel or US government.

This is another informative interview on the same topic, with video of missile strikes that avoided the 'Dome".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7n1QVrc0N8


Put your biases aside.
Just focus on what happened and what it means.
If correct, and there seems to be evidence to back it up....

Through a thoughtful and measured strike, Iran has proven the weakness of Israel's air defense systems (AND the US air defense), and proven that Iran can easily penetrate it AND precisely hit targets with their "Old" technology, even after giving 72 hours notice .
Iran's advanced weaponry would allow them to aggressively attack (defend) with devastating effects.
There is no bias. Just pure facts. Israel said they intercepted 99% of 300 missiles. That means that 3-4 did hit the ground targets. The question is this- were those missiles aiming at a specific target or just an area in Israel? Do the Iranians ballistic missiles have a precise guiding systems? Most likely they don’t. Also, the Iron Dome calculated the trajectory of the missile and does not engage the ones that are flying into the desert. This guy is full of crap!
Also, if you read the description in the you tube video, it mentions the Genocidal Israeli attack on Gaza… That sums it up, lol!
PS. The Ritter guy is a pretty shady dude convicted sex offender who was exposing himself to minors on line…

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Old 04-17-2024, 08:45 PM
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There is no bias. Just pure facts. Israel said they intercepted 99% of 300 missiles. That means that 3-4 did hit the ground targets. The question is this- were those missiles aiming at a specific target or just an area in Israel? Do the Iranians ballistic missiles have a precise guiding systems? Most likely they don’t. Also, the Iron Dome calculated the trajectory of the missile and does not engage the ones that are flying into the desert. This guy is full of crap!
Also, if you read the description in the you tube video, it mentions the Genocidal Israeli attack on Gaza… That sums it up, lol!
PS. The Ritter guy is a pretty shady dude convicted sex offender who was exposing himself to minors on line…
Yup. Not credible. Did hear that a number of Iranian missiles blew up on launch.

Also I’m betting a few missiles were targeting military sites and others nothing… if that’s the case and Israel knows it then their response may be muted. However if targets including civilian were targeted they would want to ensure Iran knew they should never do it again in a precise and targeted attack when they don’t expect it.

While Iran gave plenty of warning… there is still posturing that can embolden Irans proxies if Israel isn’t firm in their next steps.

So much behind the scenes.

Hopefully they target the drone manufacturing and storage areas to help both Israel and Ukraine.
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I checked out Scott's Wikipedia profile and now not sure what side he is on as he tended to change his testimonies from time to time, kind of a self seeking hothead. Everyone is trying to make a name for themselves on the internet, easy to do when the truth is not forthcoming from our gov'ts. Probably my time better spent nailing 2x4's together or petting the dog.
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Pretty good interview with Ben Hodges, who I suspect has a bit better general knowledge, and maybe some better inside knowledge of the players involved than Ritter or Macdonald and their ilk of commentators. The interviewer is Finnish, interesting perspective on things, and some good questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGlXzIzZDj8
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