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Old 02-14-2019, 07:59 PM
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The guy charged was fined $300 per fish. After fees he will pay about $1150. Apparently there are court ordered publication bans preventing the media from discussing details of the sting. Wonder what their trying to hide with the trial now over.

The one article I read mentioned the guy is at a grade 4 or 5 level education, lives on about $300 a month social assistance from the band. He doesnt even have a phone the article said.

The investigation happened on the reserve land without any the band council being aware.
They nailed the ring leader!
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:27 PM
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here is the link. Randomly came across the article inside one of my news apps so didnt have it to share earlier.

https://aptnnews.ca/2019/02/14/cree-...ation-officer/
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:48 PM
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Could be a bit bias...... APTN.
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Could be a bit bias...... APTN.
yeah you can read the bias a bit there... and if there was a publication ban then how did they discuss the sting in detail back in January? Or is the publication ban on new information?

Regardless the guys sentence was handed down.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:11 AM
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nothing will ever come of this, they will run it through the appeals, waste a bunch of court time and the sentence will be reduced to 1 day at a healing lodge and it will quietly all just go away.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:49 AM
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If you click on the vice news article originally posted in January it's been edited and changed due to the publication ban that was in place regarding the sting.

They really really really want to hide the details of the sting. We arent supposed to know how crazy and ridiculous the sting was.
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:13 AM
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How many other customers did this Iron fellow have? He was breaking the law and got what he deserved.

I say good job by the CO’s.
Im with you. Keywords in all this is complaints back to 1997. So 22 yrs and thats only when the complaints started. Likely been doing it his whole life. They just only managed to nab him on the day he had a small amount.

If i have to play by rules why shouldnt everyone.
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:30 PM
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Canoe Narrows Residents Fined More Than $15,500 For Illegal Sale of Fish
Released on February 15, 2019

In a Canoe Narrows courtroom, two local men were recently fined more than $15,500 for numerous violations under The Fisheries Regulations.

Richard Desjardin, 63, pleaded guilty to three counts of marketing fish without a licence, commercial fishing without a licence, fishing in a closed area and obstruction. Desjardin was fined a total of $14,500 and had his truck forfeited to the Crown.

Following an earlier trial, Donald Iron, 60, was found guilty on three counts of illegally selling fish and three counts of selling fish without a licence. He was fined a total of $1,080. Four individuals were originally charged with various fish trafficking charges, but the charges against two of the accomplices were stayed when Desjardin accepted responsibility.

In 2016, Ministry of Environment conservation officers from Beauval received information that two individuals were illegally selling fish.

Undercover officers were able to purchase fish from both individuals, with one selling a significant amount more than the other. Officers purchased more than 200 walleye from the two men, who were not licensed commercial fishermen or licensed to sell the fish.

In the 1970s and 80s, walleye populations in Canoe Lake crashed and took years to recover. As a result, extra efforts were taken to curb the unlawful trafficking of fish from Canoe Lake.

An area of Canoe Lake is closed year-round to all fishing to protect the walleye spawning ground. This closure has been in effect for more than 20 years and is fully supported by Canoe Lake First Nation. The majority of the fish in this investigation were unlawfully taken from this closed area.

If you suspect wildlife, fishery, forestry or environmental violations, please call Saskatchewan’s toll-free Turn In Poachers line at 1-800-667-7561, or call #5555 (SaskTel cellular subscribers), or report a violation online at www.saskatchewan.ca/tip. You may be eligible for cash rewards from the SaskTip Reward Program.

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Old 02-15-2019, 01:33 PM
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good job COs
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:16 PM
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what a waste of time, money and resources right?
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:18 PM
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Im with you. Keywords in all this is complaints back to 1997. So 22 yrs and thats only when the complaints started. Likely been doing it his whole life. They just only managed to nab him on the day he had a small amount.

If i have to play by rules why shouldnt everyone.
You, and more importantly, the CO's have absolutely zero evidence that this fellow did anything wrong other than accepting the entrapment offer.



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If you click on the vice news article originally posted in January it's been edited and changed due to the publication ban that was in place regarding the sting.

They really really really want to hide the details of the sting. We arent supposed to know how crazy and ridiculous the sting was.
The court case documents were available on Canlii. Was scrubbed clean from the internet within days of the article being published. Very strange....
The government really doesn't want people to know how low they will go.

The court documents showed that the officers had absolutely zero evidence that this fellow offered or sold fish to anyone other than to the undercover agent at the agent's repeated requests.... The "criminal" never asked for anything in return for the first bag of fish, only accepting the $10 at the insistence of the agent. The criminal first refused to take anything, then relented to the officers demands that he accept payment, and suggested he would take a pack of smokes....


Sorry to see people using their imagination when judging this fellow. I hope their vision of justice doesn't happen to them.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:46 PM
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You, and more importantly, the CO's have absolutely zero evidence that this fellow did anything wrong other than accepting the entrapment offer.





The court case documents were available on Canlii. Was scrubbed clean from the internet within days of the article being published. Very strange....
The government really doesn't want people to know how low they will go.

The court documents showed that the officers had absolutely zero evidence that this fellow offered or sold fish to anyone other than to the undercover agent at the agent's repeated requests.... The "criminal" never asked for anything in return for the first bag of fish, only accepting the $10 at the insistence of the agent. The criminal first refused to take anything, then relented to the officers demands that he accept payment, and suggested he would take a pack of smokes....


Sorry to see people using their imagination when judging this fellow. I hope their vision of justice doesn't happen to them.


Both were charged and found guilty so not sure how much more evidence you personally need but that's good enough for most of the world. People that plead guilty usually are.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:59 PM
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Both were charged and found guilty so not sure how much more evidence you personally need but that's good enough for most of the world. People that plead guilty usually are.
I think you're mixing up court cases.

Walking Bear's case is not what we are talking about in this thread.
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:03 PM
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The undercover pretty much insisted he take payment even when none was wanted.... took a deck of smokes to keep undercover happy... what a piece of crap. (The undercover). Desperate is, desperate does.
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:06 PM
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So the old native fellow in the old blue chev selling truckloads (literally) of netted frozen walleye pike and whitefish logs on the south east corner of Hwy 16 and 17 Lloydminster is likely doing it illegally? He has parked there for years, wonder why nothing has been done?
Can he get a license to do this I wonder?
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:28 PM
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the canlii article was posted incorrectly which forced all the media companies to revise their stories... it's odd that the publication ban wanted to hide any details of the sting.

What their too hide????
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:32 PM
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I think if you check this lake that was being fished had controls placed on it. The band that used the lake were one of the ones that wanted restrictions placed on it as it was being overfished.. Apparently these fellows took their own path when it come to the bands wishes.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:36 PM
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Not sure if already posted but here is a new article:

https://www.saskatchewan.ca/governme...mruiAw90C1PhBQ
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Old 02-15-2019, 11:19 PM
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I think you're mixing up court cases.

Walking Bear's case is not what we are talking about in this thread.
There’s 2 Donald irons from canoe lake selling fish?
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Old 02-16-2019, 06:33 PM
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You, and more importantly, the CO's have absolutely zero evidence that this fellow did anything wrong other than accepting the entrapment offer.





The court case documents were available on Canlii. Was scrubbed clean from the internet within days of the article being published. Very strange....
The government really doesn't want people to know how low they will go.

The court documents showed that the officers had absolutely zero evidence that this fellow offered or sold fish to anyone other than to the undercover agent at the agent's repeated requests.... The "criminal" never asked for anything in return for the first bag of fish, only accepting the $10 at the insistence of the agent. The criminal first refused to take anything, then relented to the officers demands that he accept payment, and suggested he would take a pack of smokes....


Sorry to see people using their imagination when judging this fellow. I hope their vision of justice doesn't happen to them.
Your right. I don’t. That’s why it’s their job. Just stating something that could be common sense. Complaints back that far. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. I hope sharing my thoughts on a forum didn’t offend you walking buffalo. Will you be ok?
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