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10-27-2016, 06:13 PM
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Maintaining Zero
The product of a good scope properly mounted in good mounts, good bedding, good assembly, good barrel, and inert stock.
I checked this tonight. I haven't touched the turrets since final sight in over two years ago and the rifle has been back packed, in a scabbard or three, and taken a few head of game.
You can keep your plastic parts, European variables, $40 scope mounts, and walnut. Thank you very much. 
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10-27-2016, 06:38 PM
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Nice! Good feeling knowing your rifle is zeroed BEFORE shooting at game lol. Hunted with way too many guys that thought missed shots at game inside 300m was acceptable...
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10-27-2016, 06:44 PM
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I check the sight in on my hunting scopes every fall, but it is rare that I adjust those European variables. 
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10-27-2016, 07:39 PM
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Agreed, except for the walnut part. Good walnut stocks with proper bedding have no problem holding zero.
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10-27-2016, 07:44 PM
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Never had any of my rifles move off zero
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10-27-2016, 08:45 PM
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Nice group!
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10-27-2016, 08:51 PM
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If I had a rifle that would not do that, I would change out the faulty item.
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10-28-2016, 02:52 AM
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That sure ups a guys confidence.Horseback really tests this.I am pretty traditional except for the rifle stock and prefer synthetic too.My rifles are a tool and are used hard.Hope the group was off sandbags and not a contraption,either way though it has a zero.
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10-28-2016, 12:32 PM
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Very nice. So tell us about the rifle...?
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10-28-2016, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bergerboy
If I had a rifle that would not do that, I would change out the faulty item.
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That's why I don't shoot tikkas anymore
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10-28-2016, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
Nice group!
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I don't believe that one hole is a "group", merely a single shot to check if the rifle held its zero over an extended period between sight-in's...
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10-28-2016, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by J0HN_R1
I don't believe that one hole is a "group", merely a single shot to check if the rifle held its zero over an extended period between sight-in's...
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I got the feeling that he was being sarcastic but maybe I am just naturally sarcastic and that's how it reads to me. Lol.
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10-28-2016, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuludog
I got the feeling that he was being sarcastic but maybe I am just naturally sarcastic and that's how it reads to me. Lol. |
And I'm as serious as a heart attack, so maybe I missed it. And a couple people mentioned it, so ?
On the other hand, I'm waiting for the OP to respond as to how many shots it was...
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10-28-2016, 02:51 PM
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It is one shot. I have shot umpteen groups with this rifle out to 400 yds. I know it is accurate. I just wanted to check zero. Zero verified.
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10-28-2016, 03:08 PM
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Once a hunting rifle is zeroed for the load I generally only shoot one shot at 200 yards when I am at the range with it on steel, I shoot my target rifles the rest of the time.
If I decide to change loads that is a different story.
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10-28-2016, 03:53 PM
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One factor that often happens is that people end up zeroing their rifle after shooting a group or a series of shots. Doing so when the barrel is warm/hot can affect your cold bore zero.
For my hunting rifles, after working up a best performing load, I zero the rifle with a cold bore then shoot my other rifles and reconfirm zero once cold again. I will continue to test it in subsequent shooting sessions to confirm my cold bore zero. I personally do not accept the mantra that 2" high at 100 is acceptable, but that is personal preference. Instead, I choose to dial or hold over based on proven ballistics.
This technique does not apply to my PRS rifles where I will be shooting many rounds in succession. In that case I will just adjust my initial shot in competition considering the cold bore variance.
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10-28-2016, 04:19 PM
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Checking zero is only part of the equation. I wonder how many guys have turrets that they never check and are dialling more or less than they think they are.
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10-28-2016, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokinyotes
Checking zero is only part of the equation. I wonder how many guys have turrets that they never check and are dialling more or less than they think they are.
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I don't change my zero on the scope on my deer rifle and I can pretty much guarantee that the rifle that shot the target of the OP is a fixed 6 without turrets!
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10-28-2016, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by catnthehat
I don't change my zero on the scope on my deer rifle and I can pretty much guarantee that the rifle that shot the target of the OP is a fixed 6 without turrets!
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I realize that Cat but the amount of guys buying scopes with exposed turrets is probably 10x what it was 5 years ago. My self i prefer a low power variable but i do have a few of the leupold CDS's which are specific to my rifle and load.
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10-28-2016, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by J0HN_R1
I don't believe that one hole is a "group", merely a single shot to check if the rifle held its zero over an extended period between sight-in's...
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Good observation
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10-28-2016, 05:58 PM
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Check my zero often lol cause I like to choot! And always choot a couple foulers after cleaning cause I like cleaning my guns too!
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10-28-2016, 05:58 PM
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That's the sh_ts! You are almost two inches high of the bullseye
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10-28-2016, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CritterCommander
Check my zero often lol cause I like to choot! And always choot a couple foulers after cleaning cause I like cleaning my guns too!
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I hate guns that like foulers.
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10-28-2016, 08:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
It is one shot. I have shot umpteen groups with this rifle out to 400 yds. I know it is accurate. I just wanted to check zero. Zero verified.
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I think the guy behind the trigger has alot to do with your shot placement chuck . Good feeling when nothing has changed .
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