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Ok keep it civil in here.... really.
I don't want to have to close this thread.
Also keep religion out of this please. You know the rules...
Infractions incoming for those who are trying to ruin it for everyone.
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soldier killed Cpl Nathan Cirllo Rest in Piece
Cpl. Nathan Cirillo leaves behind son. Heartbreaking.
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Keep it clean people! Admin has already crushed a few **** disturbers. Good thread, lets not let it deteriorate to the point where they close it down! 
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10-22-2014, 03:05 PM
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What bothers me is that there are not hundreds of muslims condemning what has happened in the name of Allah.
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Do we know the identity of the bad guy who died?
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10-22-2014, 03:06 PM
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Do we know the identity of the bad guy who died?
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Law enforcement and U.S. government sources tell CBS News the dead shooting suspect is Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, born 1982, and he is believed to be Canadian-born. confirmed now
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10-22-2014, 03:11 PM
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I agree Benamen 
I just had a co-worker walk in and say, "If they are willing to blow themselves up to take out a few people......what if they intentionally contract a disease like ebola? What if 500 of these people show up?"
I'm typically not a tin foil hat kind of guy......but that is a scary thought.
Rest In Peace Corporal.
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10-22-2014, 03:11 PM
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soldier killed Cpl Nathan Cirllo Rest in Piece
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Rest in peace and thanks for protecting us 
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10-22-2014, 03:17 PM
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I wonder which is the more worrisome there sport?.....a one time 'protest' or regular preachings of violent hatred in a closed environment to the like minded under the convenient cover of religion....need a hint?
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10-22-2014, 03:28 PM
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Well, one upside in all this sad sad news... Members of Parliament will now have had a personal, intense experience with terrorism. It will be "real" to them. Wonder if any attitudes or pronouncements will change.
Did anyone hear if Justin went out to talk to the gunman about what injustices he was feeling?
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10-22-2014, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Okotokian
Well, one upside in all this sad sad news... Members of Parliament will now have had a personal, intense experience with terrorism. It will be "real" to them. Wonder if any attitudes or pronouncements will change.
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I can't conceive of any "changes" that would be beneficial.
What changes would you like to see?
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10-22-2014, 03:39 PM
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I can't conceive of any "changes" that would be beneficial.
What changes would you like to see?
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Time to bring in the 90 or so radicals that they know about
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10-22-2014, 03:40 PM
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I can't conceive of any "changes" that would be beneficial.
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Good thing you are not running the country then. I'd hate to hear Harper declare "We can't think of a single thing we could do differently. I guess this stuff is just going to happen."
Ans no, you can't bait me into saying "Send 'em all back to where they came from." If you have ever read anything I've written you know that's not my take.
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10-22-2014, 03:40 PM
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Just got called at home. All CAF personnel are hereby ordered to NOT wear their uniform to and from work or run errands/coffee run during the day in uniform.
Canada wide order. Doesn't affect me, I go to the gym in PT gear every morning before I go to work and go home in civvies.
This is now a force protection issue.
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No such order here. On the contrary, dir was given to take pride in wearing the uniform, without undue exposure. Everything is good in the Wild West. Sit could take a turn overnight though.
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10-22-2014, 03:46 PM
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Time to bring in the 90 or so radicals that they know about
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What you suggested and would also be nice if the other party leaders supported Harpers decision to "get involved" instead of criticizing him and saying that all we should be doing is sending aid. Those type of comments are what cowards make, not leaders of a country.
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10-22-2014, 03:46 PM
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Good thing you are not running the country then. I'd hate to hear Harper declare "We can't think of a single thing we could do differently. I guess this stuff is just going to happen."
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No, you wouldn't hear that - events present great opportunities for authoritarians at all levels to justify increasing their powers.
You've been clear that you condemn inaction - What government response would you like to see?
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety....
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What you suggested and would also be nice if the other party leaders supported Harpers decision to "get involved" instead of criticizing him and saying that all we should be doing is sending aid. Those type of comments are what cowards make, not leaders of a country.
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X2,instead of just trying to gain political points.
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10-22-2014, 03:48 PM
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Does anyone know how old Cpl. Cirrillo's son is?
Cirrillo looks like a young fellow.
Also, the liberals are already cow towing and saying things have to change with a dirty smug grin on the CBC. I wonder "what things".
For heavens sake, let us get politics out of this issue until this situation is under control.
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10-22-2014, 03:50 PM
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I can't conceive of any "changes" that would be beneficial.
What changes would you like to see?
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I wouldn't mind seeing a screening station put in at the entrance of the parliament building to begin with. Something similar to what they have at the courthouses would have slowed down the shooter.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin Goodfellow
No, you wouldn't hear that - events present great opportunities for authoritarians at all levels to justify increasing their powers.
You've been clear that you condemn inaction - What government response would you like to see?
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety....
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Somewhat do you think we should do?
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10-22-2014, 03:51 PM
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Does anyone know how old Cpl. Cirrillo's son is?
Cirrillo looks like a young fellow.
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According to a facebook post, Cpl. Cirrillo was 24.
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10-22-2014, 03:51 PM
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Scumbag gunman was convert to islam confirmed
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10-22-2014, 03:53 PM
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Somewhat do you think we should do?
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I don't have any immediate thoughts on the matter.
But really, I'd suggest that your question is better directed towards those trumpeting the need to do *something*.
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10-22-2014, 03:53 PM
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No, you wouldn't hear that - events present great opportunities for authoritarians at all levels to justify increasing their powers.
You've been clear that you condemn inaction - What government response would you like to see?
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How about increased use of already existing hate speech laws to go after those that radicalize and incite? How about legislation that addresses Canadians leaving the country to fight in terrorist or non-governmental forces and beng able to freely return? Perhaps we need to beef up and hone our domestic intelligence capability. I'm not in a position to determine exactly what needs to be done, but it's a relatively new situation and recent events have proven the status quo inadequate.
Either one feels that something needs to be done differently than before, or that nothing needs to be done. I take it you are in the latter camp?
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Remember, terrorism knows no nationality. This story is reminiscent of the American Taliban, another homegrown terrorist, he is eligible for parole in a few short years.
Bibeau won't be missed, Cirillo will be by Canada and his family.. RIP
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Well, one upside in all this sad sad news... Members of Parliament will now have had a personal, intense experience with terrorism. It will be "real" to them. Wonder if any attitudes or pronouncements will change.
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This is a good observation/question.
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My personal opinion is that we should be giving absolutely no recognition to these scum. No name no nationality. Take the corpse to a hog farm and let the pigs dispose of them, then erase every single trace of their existance on this earth. My condolences to the family and comrades of the fallen hero.
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Non Compliance!!!!!!
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10-22-2014, 03:58 PM
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Remember, terrorism knows no nationality. This story is reminiscent of the American Taliban, another homegrown terrorist,
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Converts to any cause, be it religious, social, or as minor a thing as being a former alcoholic, are generally the most committed and vociferous. Having been persuaded to believe something once, they are more likely to be persuaded further. I suspect that's why so many of these guys are converts, vs people born into the religion.
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Scumbag gunman was convert to islam confirmed
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surprising!
Prayers to those killed by these scum bags. I am angry and don't know what to say.
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How about increased use of already existing hate speech laws to go after those that radicalize and incite?
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You don't get it... What qualifies as "Hate speech" is you, who is a part of a majority, saying that a minority is becoming radical and out of control.
Hate speech is not valid with minorities, after all they just express their frustration and differences in a louder way and need support!
Of course, I'm sarcastic, but you get the idea.
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