Ice fishing rant!!!!!

[snubber]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY fishermen on this site(where to go perch fishing around edmonton? how do I get to ______? where's the best perch lake? etc.). Seriously guys, how hard is it to go scout out the lakes that are in your own area? Whatever happened to looking at a map and simply going to check out the lake and see what the fishing is like all on your own.

In the last couple years, there's more and more people going to the same fishing holes, and soon, very soon, there is going to be less and less fish. I'm tired of every lazy tom dick and harry on here looking for the easy answers. Get off your *****es and figure this stuff out for yourself!

So you're lucky enough to be told where a great lake is.... don't post a thread on here asking for the directions to it, when you simply need to go onto google maps and type it in. Guess what happens when you do that? A nifty little map shows up showing you exactly how to get there!! Fancy that!

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with helping a fellow out now and then, or taking them out to where I fish... but enough is enough, go out and do some leg work. I know that I myself have gone to lakes and checked them out....found out there's not much there, but at least I can say I've done the leg work needed! I've also had the times where I've gone out and found a lake that's a hunny hole.... and guess what!! There's NOBODY else out there, hardly ever!! So for that lake my leg work paied off ten-fold....

Please people, PLEASE do some work yourselves... that's what this sport is about(it's called fishing not catching for a reason), it's not just the amount of fish you catch, but it's finding that spot that works best for you, that nobody else really knows about... and how are you going to find that spot?? You guessed it!! DO THE LEG WORK.

So before you post any new threads on here, maybe you should think to yourself... am I just being a lazy fisherman? And is that how everyone on here will see me?

[BBJTKLE&FISHINGADVENTURES]

Ok Im gonna agree with your post partly . And not cuz I know you . Its one thing to ask for directions , Updates on conditions then its another to practically beg for fishing spots . Ive said it before and im sure ill say it again . The Internet has made fishermen / hunters lazy . Its so easy to hop on the god box and see where everyone is catching fish or filling there tags , etc .

Im not going to knock this because with the forums and information is a good thing , gives lots of advise and so on . But what happened to the days of venturing out and finding the fish rather then posting . Personally I no longer answer those posts anymore .

[Monster Pike Man]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY fishermen on this site(where to go perch fishing around edmonton? how do I get to ______? where's the best perch lake? etc.). Seriously guys, how hard is it to go scout out the lakes that are in your own area? Whatever happened to looking at a map and simply going to check out the lake and see what the fishing is like all on your own.

In the last couple years, there's more and more people going to the same fishing holes, and soon, very soon, there is going to be less and less fish. I'm tired of every lazy tom dick and harry on here looking for the easy answers. Get off your *****es and figure this stuff out for yourself!

So you're lucky enough to be told where a great lake is.... don't post a thread on here asking for the directions to it, when you simply need to go onto google maps and type it in. Guess what happens when you do that? A nifty little map shows up showing you exactly how to get there!! Fancy that!

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with helping a fellow out now and then, or taking them out to where I fish... but enough is enough, go out and do some leg work. I know that I myself have gone to lakes and checked them out....found out there's not much there, but at least I can say I've done the leg work needed! I've also had the times where I've gone out and found a lake that's a hunny hole.... and guess what!! There's NOBODY else out there, hardly ever!! So for that lake my leg work paied off ten-fold....

Please people, PLEASE do some work yourselves... that's what this sport is about(it's called fishing not catching for a reason), it's not just the amount of fish you catch, but it's finding that spot that works best for you, that nobody else really knows about... and how are you going to find that spot?? You guessed it!! DO THE LEG WORK.

So before you post any new threads on here, maybe you should think to yourself... am I just being a lazy fisherman? And is that how everyone on here will see me?

I completely agree with u. Well said.

[BGSH]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY fishermen on this site(where to go perch fishing around edmonton? how do I get to ______? where's the best perch lake? etc.). Seriously guys, how hard is it to go scout out the lakes that are in your own area? Whatever happened to looking at a map and simply going to check out the lake and see what the fishing is like all on your own.

In the last couple years, there's more and more people going to the same fishing holes, and soon, very soon, there is going to be less and less fish. I'm tired of every lazy tom dick and harry on here looking for the easy answers. Get off your *****es and figure this stuff out for yourself!

So you're lucky enough to be told where a great lake is.... don't post a thread on here asking for the directions to it, when you simply need to go onto google maps and type it in. Guess what happens when you do that? A nifty little map shows up showing you exactly how to get there!! Fancy that!

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with helping a fellow out now and then, or taking them out to where I fish... but enough is enough, go out and do some leg work. I know that I myself have gone to lakes and checked them out....found out there's not much there, but at least I can say I've done the leg work needed! I've also had the times where I've gone out and found a lake that's a hunny hole.... and guess what!! There's NOBODY else out there, hardly ever!! So for that lake my leg work paied off ten-fold....

Please people, PLEASE do some work yourselves... that's what this sport is about(it's called fishing not catching for a reason), it's not just the amount of fish you catch, but it's finding that spot that works best for you, that nobody else really knows about... and how are you going to find that spot?? You guessed it!! DO THE LEG WORK.

So before you post any new threads on here, maybe you should think to yourself... am I just being a lazy fisherman? And is that how everyone on here will see me?

x2 that's how i did it,when i first moved here from the Island i got up looked at maps, read some books and went to explore and found some great places to fish, don't mind helping people out, but if people keep asking dumb questions i may not respond, get up go out and have some fun.

[yeahright]

Fully Agreed!
I like to call it a Adventure! and check new lakes!
you gotta wonder why people call em Lake X and Lake Y!


E for Effort!

[RisingRainbows]

Ok, I'm going to have to disagree with you a little bit on this one. There are a lot of people who don't get a chance to go fishing more than a couple of times a month or are new to the sport. For those people asking where a good spot is could mean the difference between a great trip that encourages them to go more and grow the sport of fishing and a trip that leaves them feeling unsatisfied. As well, what is really the difference between the good old 'asking the guys at "The Fishin' Hole"' where the fish are biting and asking on a forum? And what percentage of people ice fishing on lake X really heard about it on the Alberta Outdoorsmen Forum? I'm guessing it's not that high. My completely speculative opinion is that most people hear about new spots from friends and acquaintances, not online forums.

[BeeGuy]

Exploration is by far my favorite part.

[Woody_16]

As a relatively new fisherman (other than as a child), I can vouch that it can be tough trying to learn the good places to fish. Also, many people might not have a buddy who can show them the ropes.

That being said, I have never made a post on here asking for a lake to fish at. Just from growing up, I already knew of most of the lakes around me and what kind of fish they had in them. The ones that I didn't know much about were found through maps and regs. The regs will tell you what fish are in the lake and a map will show you how to get there. From there you just pick a spot and throw a hook out. If it doesn't work, you move on to the next spot/hook. Before you know it you are hauling in fish.

One of my favourite experiences this summer was in Waterton. My girlfriend and I were camping there and we hiked a few kilometers to a nice lake that we had never been to before and caught little Brook Trout all evening, just because we asked someone at the tourist booth if there were fish in it. Hiking to the lake and the scenery there was just as fun as trying to find the fish. At the end of the day, we had a blast. And it was all due to nothing more than a little outdoors exploring. A few weeks later we made a full day trip to 3-4 of the lakes around Pincher/Beaver Mines (we had never been to any of them) and just made the best of it. We ended up with about a dozen fish that day and she had a blast. Days like that sure turn them on to the sport and make them want to go out more. But again, it was simply taking a shot in the dark at first.

As a side note, while I think that it is kind of rude to reply to someone's question with "use the search function"... I also have to admit that at least 95% of the information regarding lakes and techniques that I have acquired from this forum has been found using the search function. In fact, it has even inspired me to plan a Golden Trout trip this summer thanks to a couple hours of reading searched threads.

It's really not that hard to do some work for yourself. It's one thing to ask where a guy can buy a lottery ticket at, but it's another to expect the winning numbers.

[CeeZee]

Yup agreed for the most part some people are too lazy to look, but it because they are not true outdoorsman! They are part time outdoorsman who want the honey but dont wanna find the beehive.
I searched and stuff completely blind, no friends to ask, not from the province, so yes read maps, barry mitchel a bit, and backroads map, and invest the time. Then I found this forum and it has been an amazing wealth of information and is an awesome tool! Has increased my knowledge so much there is no word to describe it, love the info on here but I do respect the effort others put in and feel rude trying to pry that info out of people, and be ummm "lazy".

2 cents.

[CantThinkOfAName]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY don't post a thread on here asking for the directions to it, when you simply need to go onto google maps and type it in. Guess what happens when you do that? A nifty little map shows up showing you exactly how to get there!! Fancy that!

I'll 100% disagree with that statement. I don't believe anybody has to give up "their" hole or lake, but not giving directions basically comes down to being a *****. I wouldn't want to drive out to a lake only not to be able to find a boat launch. Or to find out the boat launch isnt capable of handling my boat. Take Wabamun for example, this site has helped ppl find launches, which launches are in disrepair, and little launches that big boats can't use but places where ppl can launch their dinghy. I'm pretty sure that info has made the difference in an enjoyable day or a terrible one . Google maps doesn't show everything.

[MoFugger21]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY fishermen on this site(where to go perch fishing around edmonton? how do I get to ______? where's the best perch lake? etc.). Seriously guys, how hard is it to go scout out the lakes that are in your own area? Whatever happened to looking at a map and simply going to check out the lake and see what the fishing is like all on your own.

In the last couple years, there's more and more people going to the same fishing holes, and soon, very soon, there is going to be less and less fish. I'm tired of every lazy tom dick and harry on here looking for the easy answers. Get off your *****es and figure this stuff out for yourself!

So you're lucky enough to be told where a great lake is.... don't post a thread on here asking for the directions to it, when you simply need to go onto google maps and type it in. Guess what happens when you do that? A nifty little map shows up showing you exactly how to get there!! Fancy that!

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with helping a fellow out now and then, or taking them out to where I fish... but enough is enough, go out and do some leg work. I know that I myself have gone to lakes and checked them out....found out there's not much there, but at least I can say I've done the leg work needed! I've also had the times where I've gone out and found a lake that's a hunny hole.... and guess what!! There's NOBODY else out there, hardly ever!! So for that lake my leg work paied off ten-fold....

Please people, PLEASE do some work yourselves... that's what this sport is about(it's called fishing not catching for a reason), it's not just the amount of fish you catch, but it's finding that spot that works best for you, that nobody else really knows about... and how are you going to find that spot?? You guessed it!! DO THE LEG WORK.

So before you post any new threads on here, maybe you should think to yourself... am I just being a lazy fisherman? And is that how everyone on here will see me?

Lol, the little things that get people on here SO pi$$ed off.... [sarcasm]OMG, someone asked a question on an online forum designed for sharing information... How disgusting... This is an outrage!!![/sarcasm]. Lol

I have an idea, instead of getting all bent out of shape over what you described above.... Ignore them and move on with life... If you don't want to help others on here, that's fine, but getting so mad about people asking for help is completely ridiculous IMO.

[jts1]

I dont think that way. If asked I give directions, Depth charts, gps what ever I have. Done it many many times. I lend out my gear if needed etc etc. Yes I do keep a few spots to myself. Made some good friendships this way and in turn have been helped out when I needed it. Thats what this forum is all about.

[fish farmer]

Originally Posted by MoFugger21

Is that Sylvan Lake in the background?

[Dakota369]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY fishermen on this site(where to go perch fishing around edmonton? how do I get to ______? where's the best perch lake? etc.). Seriously guys, how hard is it to go scout out the lakes that are in your own area? Whatever happened to looking at a map and simply going to check out the lake and see what the fishing is like all on your own.

In the last couple years, there's more and more people going to the same fishing holes, and soon, very soon, there is going to be less and less fish. I'm tired of every lazy tom dick and harry on here looking for the easy answers. Get off your *****es and figure this stuff out for yourself!

So you're lucky enough to be told where a great lake is.... don't post a thread on here asking for the directions to it, when you simply need to go onto google maps and type it in. Guess what happens when you do that? A nifty little map shows up showing you exactly how to get there!! Fancy that!

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with helping a fellow out now and then, or taking them out to where I fish... but enough is enough, go out and do some leg work. I know that I myself have gone to lakes and checked them out....found out there's not much there, but at least I can say I've done the leg work needed! I've also had the times where I've gone out and found a lake that's a hunny hole.... and guess what!! There's NOBODY else out there, hardly ever!! So for that lake my leg work paied off ten-fold....

Please people, PLEASE do some work yourselves... that's what this sport is about(it's called fishing not catching for a reason), it's not just the amount of fish you catch, but it's finding that spot that works best for you, that nobody else really knows about... and how are you going to find that spot?? You guessed it!! DO THE LEG WORK.

So before you post any new threads on here, maybe you should think to yourself... am I just being a lazy fisherman? And is that how everyone on here will see me?

If ya don't like it................don't read or respond dumb azz......... there are people here with limited time/experience who have kids who they just want to take them out for a good ice-fishing experience, not one of drilling lots of holes and catching nothing.....................


Personally I am getting sick of rants like this about other members........

[topgun2269]

hunting land totally agree!! I have maps etc for all my hunting areas. worked for years getting permissions.

Fishing...who cares!!!!! they are all open with access to everyone!!!! who cares if people ask!!! if you dont want to tell them than stay off the forum!!!!!

"MY BANG FOR MY BUCK"

[rammer]

Originally Posted by snubber

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with helping a fellow out now and then, or taking them out to where I fish... but enough is enough, go out and do some leg work. I know that I myself have gone to lakes and checked them out....found out there's not much there, but at least I can say I've done the leg work needed! I've also had the times where I've gone out and found a lake that's a hunny hole.... and guess what!! There's NOBODY else out there, hardly ever!! So for that lake my leg work paied off ten-fold....

Please people, PLEASE do some work yourselves... that's what this sport is about(it's called fishing not catching for a reason), it's not just the amount of fish you catch, but it's finding that spot that works best for you, that nobody else really knows about... and how are you going to find that spot?? You guessed it!! DO THE LEG WORK.

haha you have got to be kidding me. Why do you think people use forums like this or look at fishing reports using other sources. Why should a guy go spend his limited free time putting in the "leg work" if he's not going to catch any fish. The whole point of forums like this is so you can make the most of your free time and not waste it sitting over a hole all day not catching fish. I don't think you can call other people lazy...maybe other people just work a little harder than you do and don't have all this free time to waste getting skunked on their weekends. nice thread

[snubber]

You don't get what Im trying to say at all.I don't mind helping people out especially the people that are taking there kids out,its awsome to teach the next generation,but what Im getting at is the threads like"where to find perch close to edmonton,how do I get there,what depths,what are you using, "I don't want the small ones where do I have to go to find big ones around edmonton etc.We all would love to go out and catch a load of big fish but like I said its called fishing not catching.Just saying do a little leg work I know I did and wow it worked out expecting to have info handed to me on a silver platter.Its funny ever since I started this rant my PM has blown up with alot of people agreeing with me and there saying all those haters are those lazy fishermen I was talking about.Just passing it on.

[fish gunner]

the more people agree with any one point the more lightly it is to be incorrect.the majority is just that.not always correct.look at politics.

[MoFugger21]

Originally Posted by snubber

You don't get what Im trying to say at all.I don't mind helping people out especially the people that are taking there kids out,its awsome to teach the next generation,but what Im getting at is the threads like"where to find perch close to edmonton,how do I get there,what depths,what are you using, "I don't want the small ones where do I have to go to find big ones around edmonton etc.We all would love to go out and catch a load of big fish but like I said its called fishing not catching.Just saying do a little leg work I know I did and wow it worked out expecting to have info handed to me on a silver platter.Its funny ever since I started this rant my PM has blown up with alot of people agreeing with me and there saying all those haters are those lazy fishermen I was talking about.Just passing it on.

Did you look in the mirror and puff out your chest and feel all proud of yourself afterwards too....? Lol. Pretty simple solution to all of this.... IGNORE THE POSTS THEN! There are bigger tragedies in life than someone on an outdoorsman forum asking for help or looking for someone to point them in the right direction, and like I said in my earlier post, getting all bent out of shape over it is completely ridiculous.

There's been a few threads/rants like this in the past, and I'll bet money that there will be more in future. It's not gonna stop anything. Can it be annoying that there are 4 threads concerning the same lake, with 4 different people asking the same thing? Absolutely, but why waste your time getting pi$$ed off about it, it's gonna continue, like it or not. So if it bothers you that much, when you see it, do the same thing everyone else does... Curse it under your breath, ignore it, and move on with life. EZ game!

[pecker]

where can i find a good musky lake within 2000km of Calgary.

[pecker]

Originally Posted by pecker

where can i find a good musky lake within 2000km of Calgary.

i know you want me to do the LEG WORK.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by pecker

where can i find a good musky lake within 2000km of Calgary.

Try Wisconsin

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by pecker

where can i find a good musky lake within 2000km of Calgary.

lake cordalane(spelling??)idaho.my best abt 6 lbs but contains fish to 20lbs.

[wolfman403]

Originally Posted by pecker

where can i find a good musky lake within 2000km of Calgary.

EAST is that close enough

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't want the small ones where do I have to go to find big ones around edmonton etc.

I remember that thread. The OP started off by asking where he could take some young kids to catch perch and then he said that he only wanted to catch big ones. Yeah, I'll agree that the OP was out to lunch in that particular thread. I was mildly amused with it.

[Stewie]

Originally Posted by snubber

You don't get what Im trying to say at all.I don't mind helping people out especially the people that are taking there kids out,its awsome to teach the next generation,but what Im getting at is the threads like"where to find perch close to edmonton,how do I get there,what depths,what are you using, "I don't want the small ones where do I have to go to find big ones around edmonton etc.We all would love to go out and catch a load of big fish but like I said its called fishing not catching.Just saying do a little leg work I know I did and wow it worked out expecting to have info handed to me on a silver platter.Its funny ever since I started this rant my PM has blown up with alot of people agreeing with me and there saying all those haters are those lazy fishermen I was talking about.Just passing it on.

Ok so a guy asks what lakes are good for a certain fish… but doesn’t ask for spots or depth and drives out to the lake… sees a bunch of guys fishing in a certain area…. So sets up close to them…

THEN guess what…? On Monday have threads on here about “how some jackazz set up right beside me when I was fishing…”

This forum is for helping people out, and learning new things… if you don’t want to help out… then don’t read the posts bud

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY fishermen on this site(where to go perch fishing around edmonton?

To me, those types of questions sound reasonable on a Fishing Forum.

What's a lazy fishermen? Someone that wants to put in the least amount of effort possible in order to catch fish. They don't want to travel far and if they find a decent spot close by they won't want anyone else to know about it.

Maybe what you really mean is, "Why is everyone telling other people about the lakes that I fish?"

[Eddy62]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY fishermen on this site(where to go perch fishing around edmonton? how do I get to ______? where's the best perch lake? etc.). Seriously guys, how hard is it to go scout out the lakes that are in your own area? Whatever happened to looking at a map and simply going to check out the lake and see what the fishing is like all on your own.

In the last couple years, there's more and more people going to the same fishing holes, and soon, very soon, there is going to be less and less fish. I'm tired of every lazy tom dick and harry on here looking for the easy answers. Get off your *****es and figure this stuff out for yourself!

So you're lucky enough to be told where a great lake is.... don't post a thread on here asking for the directions to it, when you simply need to go onto google maps and type it in. Guess what happens when you do that? A nifty little map shows up showing you exactly how to get there!! Fancy that!

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with helping a fellow out now and then, or taking them out to where I fish... but enough is enough, go out and do some leg work. I know that I myself have gone to lakes and checked them out....found out there's not much there, but at least I can say I've done the leg work needed! I've also had the times where I've gone out and found a lake that's a hunny hole.... and guess what!! There's NOBODY else out there, hardly ever!! So for that lake my leg work paied off ten-fold....

Please people, PLEASE do some work yourselves... that's what this sport is about(it's called fishing not catching for a reason), it's not just the amount of fish you catch, but it's finding that spot that works best for you, that nobody else really knows about... and how are you going to find that spot?? You guessed it!! DO THE LEG WORK.

So before you post any new threads on here, maybe you should think to yourself... am I just being a lazy fisherman? And is that how everyone on here will see me?

there is alot off past threads posted that will answer alot off questions,,,,,,,type in the search bar and you will be surprised what pops up

[jack88]

Snubber is right on the money with this whole thread.
Enough said.

[LACOMBE JACKSON]

Isn't the information you don't want to give voluntary? Maybe you fellas can just read the question(or not) and move on. So I guess the solution might be, If a person asks a question, Don't answer it. Maybe the next member might fiind the question valid and they'll answer it for you. This is the kind of B.S. that started the slow and agonizing death of the other forum.Another possible solution is to start a "serious" fishing forum where no tips or info is given just pics of lake X's and the trophy fish they hold. Just my 2 cents.Well I gotta go. Looks like it's time to get to Gull-Brownlows Landing -West of the access road --Red Dodge truck--fishing for the almighty Jack