Ice fishing rant!!!!!

[snubber]

I'm glad to see that 95% of you got the point I was trying to make. It's not that I am at all against helping a newbie out, I have no issues bringing new people into this sport. But for those of you who are out there who just expect to have everyone always tell you where to fish, where the 'humpty' perch are hiding, where the best spot on the lake is to find the biggest fish... you need to get off your butts and explore the lakes like the rest of us have!

Don't get me wrong, if someone askes me for directions somewhere while I'm out and about I'm one of the first people to help them out, if we're at a lake and someone who is out there with their kids and is having a bad go at it, I WILL help them to have a better day by nudging them in the right direction... I'm not against that at all... what bothers me is that people are on here asking for directions to a lake (not the boat launch) when they could have easily enough gone to google for the answer and found it themselves...

This sport is suppost to not only be about the fishing side of things, but the adventure and exploration that goes with it.. if you don't catch fish one day, big deal, as long as you make the day worthwhile that's really all that matters, but you're not going to get that if you don't explore on your own and find things out for yourself.

As far as those who don't have time....even if you have an extra couple of minutes in the evening to do some research you'll be fine....not enough time to look into where you want to go and so forth is simply an excuse.

I appologize if I have offeneded anyone, but it's the truth....this is a SPORT, try all aspects of it, not just the catching side....

[brian_edm]

I find this topic very funny actually. If you don't want to help someone out, then don't bother replying to the post. Simple as that. Yes some people are lazy. I have been helped out by numerous good folks on here. I'm not after anyone's sweet spot but a little advice is always nice.

[snubber]

Like I said good to see 95% got the point I was trying to make,theres always gonna be that 5% can't please everyone.

[pickrel pat]

this is the first thread ive seen this. its nice to see someone start such an original thread. ive never seen anyone post on where is a good place to go fishing and have umpteen responses saying "dont be lazy" or "do the leg work yourself"........ that would be very original too. everybody knows that it would be so funny for a guy that has very little money and only gets out once a year to fuel up his peice of crap car, drive 2 hours punch a hole, have 6 million fresh water shrimp fill the top of his hole and not catch a thing, only to find out a month later that it summer/winterkilled. oh well...... maybe next year when/if he has time or its within his budget he will get lucky and hit a lake with some fish.

[Stewie]

Heaven forbid a guy ask for information on an OUTDOOR FORUM… you guys need to chill out

Kinda funny calling people lazy and talking about ice fishing… aren’t you pretty much sitting all day…

[Speckle55]

Thats why i am on here is to help i enjoy talking, teaching, learning ,sharing, and looking at all pic's fishing or anything.. do you want to know where i caught my World Record 8# line class Brook Trout in 1984.. it was at Maligne Lake Jasper National Park and she was a 12#13 oz female on June 28 1984 .. i caught her on a Green Doc Spratley size 8, 12 inches behind a Williams Worbler at a speed of 1.7 to 2.2 km in 40 to 50 fow at 1.44 pm on a intermetin rain day. it took me 1 1/2 hours to net her as she rolled on her back in submission as my two buddys watched in awe . one want to net but i had said she was mine too lose.. so will i post this on the net just did .. lmao its fishing guys ..

Story was printed in Outdoor Life in thier annual in 1988

pic,s on my profile if you need proof

here is some Lake Whitefish from Gregg Lake the first is my buddy and his 5#3ozer and a couple 2 1/2 to 3 enjoy Big Lake Whitefish #5.3oz.jpg

Lake Whites 2.jpg

[BeeGuy]

Members on this forum are among the the MOST generous one can find anywhere.

That said, sometimes you've got to put in a little leg work of your own.

The search function here provides more info than one can even use, and combined with actually going fishing, it's a cake walk to get into fish in any region.

Where, when, and how are covered thoroughly for hundreds of spots, including weekly/daily updates.

Just get out there and fish. A lot of members will even take you with them.

If anyone ever wants to fish Ghost, I'm always interested in getting skunked or catching a big one.

[TROLLER]

Originally Posted by bpallen

Isn't the whole point of this forum to guide and assist each other?

New equiptment / techniques / what works and what doesn't work / Lakes that are bitting / ice conditions or water conditions / etc.

If we are going to have a personal " RANT " the POSTS that I dislike, are the ones showing an nice harvest of fish & then want you to guess what lake they were caught.

Again I thought the point of this forum was to help / assist / and a place to talk and discuss about the sport of fishing.

But perhaps I'm wrong ( very Possible )

I cannot agree with you, how many times does someone post, what bait what hook where on the lake how deep, what time of day can you give me gps specs. Sorry don't work that way

[Speckle55]

Originally Posted by TROLLER

I cannot agree with you, how many times does someone post, what bait what hook where on the lake how deep, what time of day can you give me gps specs. Sorry don't work that way

sure np . it was 10 1/2 miles down lake on right hand side now Lorne Currie(guide) calls it Currie bay it has a couple big rock in bay and you scout them in 30fow looking at rocks and then you go up point if coming back to Spirit Island we were about 50 yds up bank and i was on the inside..

hope that helps

Food for Thought
David

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by Speckle55

sure np . it was 10 1/2 miles down lake on right hand side now Lorne Currie(guide) calls it Currie bay it has a couple big rock in bay and you scout them in 30fow looking at rocks and then you go up point if coming back to Spirit Island we were about 50 yds up bank and i was on the inside..

hope that helps

Food for Thought
David

Awesome David,

So what do you call that bay?

[Speckle55]

Originally Posted by BeeGuy

Awesome David,

So what do you call that bay?

lol 10 1/2 miles down .. ROFLMAO .. but Currie bay is fine he is a good friend .. i just love to fish like most anglers and learn/look/talk.. there is more too fishing than fish

Take a man fishing you feed him for a day .. Teach a man to fish feed him for life .. Tha Bible

[1shotwade]

I don,t mind helping the odd guy out! i also don't come on here and declare my hotspots and brag about my weekend haul of perch! Same reason if a guy shows up at a lake and rolls up to me and asks me if Im catching anything the answers always the same, nope! If you post your hotspots and get guys asking you via PM's it's your own fault! this year at north buck me and some buddies were in our shack fishing and a truck rolled up with 2 guys in it asked how the fishing was and my buddies son showed him 2 nice perch! The next thing you know 6 trucks and about 12 guys were right on top of us asking to borrow augers to maggots and actually complained when they caught no fish! They were altogether and just spread out asking people! well we left and went to chump and did quite well! Tight lines boys!

[Dakota369]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY fishermen on this site(where to go perch fishing around edmonton? how do I get to ______? where's the best perch lake? etc.). Seriously guys, how hard is it to go scout out the lakes that are in your own area? Whatever happened to looking at a map and simply going to check out the lake and see what the fishing is like all on your own.

In the last couple years, there's more and more people going to the same fishing holes, and soon, very soon, there is going to be less and less fish. I'm tired of every lazy tom dick and harry on here looking for the easy answers. Get off your *****es and figure this stuff out for yourself!

So you're lucky enough to be told where a great lake is.... don't post a thread on here asking for the directions to it, when you simply need to go onto google maps and type it in. Guess what happens when you do that? A nifty little map shows up showing you exactly how to get there!! Fancy that!

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with helping a fellow out now and then, or taking them out to where I fish... but enough is enough, go out and do some leg work. I know that I myself have gone to lakes and checked them out....found out there's not much there, but at least I can say I've done the leg work needed! I've also had the times where I've gone out and found a lake that's a hunny hole.... and guess what!! There's NOBODY else out there, hardly ever!! So for that lake my leg work paied off ten-fold....

Please people, PLEASE do some work yourselves... that's what this sport is about(it's called fishing not catching for a reason), it's not just the amount of fish you catch, but it's finding that spot that works best for you, that nobody else really knows about... and how are you going to find that spot?? You guessed it!! DO THE LEG WORK.

So before you post any new threads on here, maybe you should think to yourself... am I just being a lazy fisherman? And is that how everyone on here will see me?

If ya don't like it................don't read or respond dumb azz......... there are people here with limited time/experience who have kids who they just want to take them out for a good ice-fishing experience, not one of drilling lots of holes and catching nothing.....................


Personally I am getting sick of rants like this about other members........

[topgun2269]

hunting land totally agree!! I have maps etc for all my hunting areas. worked for years getting permissions.

Fishing...who cares!!!!! they are all open with access to everyone!!!! who cares if people ask!!! if you dont want to tell them than stay off the forum!!!!!

"MY BANG FOR MY BUCK"

[Isopod]

Seems easy enough to tell from the title of the thread what it's going to be about. If you don't want to read threads asking for lakes with big perch close to the city, just don't click on that thread, move on to a topic that interests you. If you like exploring new lakes and new spots, go exploring and be happy, and who cares if not everyone likes doing the same? My two cents.

[rammer]

Originally Posted by snubber

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with helping a fellow out now and then, or taking them out to where I fish... but enough is enough, go out and do some leg work. I know that I myself have gone to lakes and checked them out....found out there's not much there, but at least I can say I've done the leg work needed! I've also had the times where I've gone out and found a lake that's a hunny hole.... and guess what!! There's NOBODY else out there, hardly ever!! So for that lake my leg work paied off ten-fold....

Please people, PLEASE do some work yourselves... that's what this sport is about(it's called fishing not catching for a reason), it's not just the amount of fish you catch, but it's finding that spot that works best for you, that nobody else really knows about... and how are you going to find that spot?? You guessed it!! DO THE LEG WORK.

haha you have got to be kidding me. Why do you think people use forums like this or look at fishing reports using other sources. Why should a guy go spend his limited free time putting in the "leg work" if he's not going to catch any fish. The whole point of forums like this is so you can make the most of your free time and not waste it sitting over a hole all day not catching fish. I don't think you can call other people lazy...maybe other people just work a little harder than you do and don't have all this free time to waste getting skunked on their weekends. nice thread

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm getting rather tired of all the LAZY fishermen on this site(where to go perch fishing around edmonton?

To me, those types of questions sound reasonable on a Fishing Forum.

What's a lazy fishermen? Someone that wants to put in the least amount of effort possible in order to catch fish. They don't want to travel far and if they find a decent spot close by they won't want anyone else to know about it.

Maybe what you really mean is, "Why is everyone telling other people about the lakes that I fish?"

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by pickrel pat

this is the first thread ive seen this. its nice to see someone start such an original thread. ive never seen anyone post on where is a good place to go fishing and have umpteen responses saying "dont be lazy" or "do the leg work yourself"........ that would be very original too. everybody knows that it would be so funny for a guy that has very little money and only gets out once a year to fuel up his peice of crap car, drive 2 hours punch a hole, have 6 million fresh water shrimp fill the top of his hole and not catch a thing, only to find out a month later that it summer/winterkilled. oh well...... maybe next year when/if he has time or its within his budget he will get lucky and hit a lake with some fish.

You have been to Ernastina!!!

I'm not kidding at all, I went there (bonnyville area) a couple years ago, and no matter where we drilled, 4' deep or less, gross stinky black water, and almost solid with shrimp. It used to be an awesome lake, but apparently the holes filled up.

[snubber]

You don't get what Im trying to say at all.I don't mind helping people out especially the people that are taking there kids out,its awsome to teach the next generation,but what Im getting at is the threads like"where to find perch close to edmonton,how do I get there,what depths,what are you using, "I don't want the small ones where do I have to go to find big ones around edmonton etc.We all would love to go out and catch a load of big fish but like I said its called fishing not catching.Just saying do a little leg work I know I did and wow it worked out expecting to have info handed to me on a silver platter.Its funny ever since I started this rant my PM has blown up with alot of people agreeing with me and there saying all those haters are those lazy fishermen I was talking about.Just passing it on.

[Woody_16]

I think some people misunderstood the OP (or maybe I do). Regardless, here's what I figure.. I honestly believe that in the time it would take me to post a "where can I find this fish near this city" and wait for a useful response and then ask follow up questions, I could easily have found out which watershed zone my city is in, looked through that zone in the regs and made a list of each lake that has the fish I want to target, hopped on google maps and seen which were closest (you've probably already heard of the ones nearby you which would make this much faster) and then made a simple search on the forums for those lakes and gotten far more valuable information. Maybe the exception would be asking how thick the ice is, but again, that is a commonly updated thing and fairly easily found out.

In my opinion, people would gladly help someone who has put in some effort (whether they went out and got skunked and asked what to change, or even just did what I described above) as opposed to someone who just wants their free lunch with no effort.

It took me about a month of fishing a certain body of water this fall to finally get into my biggest fish of the year, it was no record trophy but it was my reward for my work. I would easily venture a guess that I appreciate that experience more because I earned it, than I would have if I were sent to that spot with that technique on the first outing. I do understand that not everyone can get out as often, but this is only my personal opinion.

Originally Posted by topgun2269

hunting land totally agree!! I have maps etc for all my hunting areas. worked for years getting permissions.

Fishing...who cares!!!!! they are all open with access to everyone!!!! who cares if people ask!!! if you dont want to tell them than stay off the forum!!!!!

For the people making hunting comparisons, maybe think of it this way.. Some of these people aren't asking "where in Alberta can I find a doe to shoot for meat to feed my family?", they are saying "can you please send me directly to the trophy bucks." When is the last time you shot a monster and didn't have to scout the area, get permission, put in at least a few days looking for them or calling them in, etc? You are saying that you've worked for years to get to where you are and would not share this information, well some of the fishermen on here have also worked for years trying different things to be where they are, same idea.. But this isn't about not telling them the best secrets, it's about them not trying to find the simplest information.

Originally Posted by rammer

Why should a guy go spend his limited free time putting in the "leg work" if he's not going to catch any fish. The whole point of forums like this is so you can make the most of your free time and not waste it sitting over a hole all day not catching fish.

If spending a day out on the water and not catching a fish is a "waste of time" then maybe you are fishing for the wrong reason? You can't catch a fish everytime you put a hook in the water. You can always buy fish from the store instead. Just my opinion.

[fish gunner]

the more people agree with any one point the more lightly it is to be incorrect.the majority is just that.not always correct.look at politics.

[MoFugger21]

Originally Posted by snubber

You don't get what Im trying to say at all.I don't mind helping people out especially the people that are taking there kids out,its awsome to teach the next generation,but what Im getting at is the threads like"where to find perch close to edmonton,how do I get there,what depths,what are you using, "I don't want the small ones where do I have to go to find big ones around edmonton etc.We all would love to go out and catch a load of big fish but like I said its called fishing not catching.Just saying do a little leg work I know I did and wow it worked out expecting to have info handed to me on a silver platter.Its funny ever since I started this rant my PM has blown up with alot of people agreeing with me and there saying all those haters are those lazy fishermen I was talking about.Just passing it on.

Did you look in the mirror and puff out your chest and feel all proud of yourself afterwards too....? Lol. Pretty simple solution to all of this.... IGNORE THE POSTS THEN! There are bigger tragedies in life than someone on an outdoorsman forum asking for help or looking for someone to point them in the right direction, and like I said in my earlier post, getting all bent out of shape over it is completely ridiculous.

There's been a few threads/rants like this in the past, and I'll bet money that there will be more in future. It's not gonna stop anything. Can it be annoying that there are 4 threads concerning the same lake, with 4 different people asking the same thing? Absolutely, but why waste your time getting pi$$ed off about it, it's gonna continue, like it or not. So if it bothers you that much, when you see it, do the same thing everyone else does... Curse it under your breath, ignore it, and move on with life. EZ game!

[pecker]

where can i find a good musky lake within 2000km of Calgary.

[HunterDave]

Originally Posted by snubber

I don't want the small ones where do I have to go to find big ones around edmonton etc.

I remember that thread. The OP started off by asking where he could take some young kids to catch perch and then he said that he only wanted to catch big ones. Yeah, I'll agree that the OP was out to lunch in that particular thread. I was mildly amused with it.

[pecker]

Originally Posted by pecker

where can i find a good musky lake within 2000km of Calgary.

i know you want me to do the LEG WORK.

[BeeGuy]

Originally Posted by pecker

where can i find a good musky lake within 2000km of Calgary.

Try Wisconsin

[pecker]

thanks bee guy -- now thats what i like -- help on this forum.

[fish gunner]

Originally Posted by pecker

where can i find a good musky lake within 2000km of Calgary.

lake cordalane(spelling??)idaho.my best abt 6 lbs but contains fish to 20lbs.

Rude! Selfish! Rude! WOW! Not much for acts of kindness from some of this crowd.

[Shmag]

Originally Posted by pickrel pat

everybody knows that it would be so funny for a guy that has very little money and only gets out once a year to fuel up his peice of crap car, drive 2 hours punch a hole, have 6 million fresh water shrimp fill the top of his hole and not catch a thing,

I'm thinking the poor guy you speak of should of saved his gas, license, bait, and lunch money and drive to IGA and buy a fish.