how to make an Ice fishing heater. cheep under $10.00

[inventer]

Material needed

1) metal paint can with lid no holes.
1) 5 galon metal pail
1) block of wood, can be green or dry
Matches.
1) gallon of mythol hydrate 99.9 % alcohol

How to put to geather.

cut wood so it will fit into paint can and you can still put the lid on.
then pour methol hydrate into paint can to top of can.
Then place paint can into 5 gallon metal pail.
light with match. will start like diesal fuel when cold.
will burn for 3 hrs. will not go out if snowing, raining, or blowing. To put out just put the lid on the paint can.

You can cook over this type of fire just use your grate off of your barbaque.

I have made a lot of these types of heaters they work very well, in all emergency situations.

Hazards. Do not put fuel into paint can when it is burning, Make sure paint can is cold when adding fuel.

any questions you can E-mail me at bluesage@telus.net

[Muskeg]

I learned a similar thing from my grandpa in the 70's using a tobacco can and a roll of toilet paper instead of wood and paint can.. might be tough to find an old tobacco can these days.

[inventer]

Originally Posted by Muskeg

I learned a similar thing from my grandpa in the 70's using a tobacco can and a roll of toilet paper instead of wood and paint can.. might be tough to find an old tobacco can these days.

meatl paint cans are easy to find just check your local dumps or used paint places, or you can buy new paint cans at the paint places.

[inventer]

Like when your ice hole frezzes over and you have to dip out the ice so that the fishing line does not frezz up

Try taking 2x4 cut ( 4 ) pieces 12" long, nail a piece of plywood on top of the 2X 4 cut a hole in the top, bigger then the ice hole and place over the ice hole, pack snow around the 2 X 4 so the wing does not go under the 2 X 4s

It works I have tryed it

[buckmaster]

Originally Posted by inventer

Material needed

1) metal paint can with lid no holes.
1) 5 galon metal pail
1) block of wood, can be green or dry
Matches.
1) gallon of mythol hydrate 99.9 % alcohol

How to put to geather.

cut wood so it will fit into paint can and you can still put the lid on.
then pour methol hydrate into paint can to top of can.
Then place paint can into 5 gallon metal pail.
light with match. will start like diesal fuel when cold.
will burn for 3 hrs. will not go out if snowing, raining, or blowing. To put out just put the lid on the paint can.

You can cook over this type of fire just use your grate off of your barbaque.

I have made a lot of these types of heaters they work very well, in all emergency situations.

Hazards. Do not put fuel into paint can when it is burning, Make sure paint can is cold when adding fuel.

any questions you can E-mail me at bluesage@telus.net

You do mean a 1 gallon pail and not a 5 gallon pail?

[buckmaster]

Originally Posted by Muskeg

I learned a similar thing from my grandpa in the 70's using a tobacco can and a roll of toilet paper instead of wood and paint can.. might be tough to find an old tobacco can these days.

i use tim horton coffee cans !

[ice]

One question from me.
Why the hell would you use 99% alcohol.
When you easily have paper, or even better yet. Mixed Gasoline For Your Auger?

And for a fact i know no matter how much you soak a roll of t paper with mythol?(there is no such thing) but if you mean Methyl Hydrate(Dont mess with this stuff. highly Explosive. Pure Alcohol). or methanol or alchohol. Its not going to burn for 3 hours
99% alcohol. Isnt Flamable.
Its Explosive.
When it goes. it Goes.

Make a Wood Fire Imo.
Much Safer.
thats Just Like Saying. I Have a Flaming Peice Of paper.
lets Throw Some Everclear On it!!! ITll Burn Longer!
And tell me this Boys And Girls.
What happens when you mess with an explosive compound?
Kahhh BOOoM

[ice]

Or even better yet.
There a fire right there.
Lets throw some Jet Type-A Diesel on there,
Or Naptha.
Playing With Flamables Is Never Somthing You Should Do.
Jesus Christ.
I Figure People would have more common sence then to play around just to make a heater.
If you need a space heater.
Buy one!

[lifesaflyin]

ice.

1. alcohol does not give off a nasty smell and chemicals like gas would.
2.it burns clean thus saving you from a instant headache
3. alcohol is relativly cheap.
4. it is not explosive unless in vapor form and under pressure.
5. this is not for re tards who could cut themselves with safety scissors.

the alcohol itself does not burn but rather the vapors. the rate it evaporates is the rate it can burn at. now if it was mixed with oxygen with a spray, compressed and lit it would be explosive much like what happens in the engine of a car.

[steve]

Originally Posted by ice

One question from me.
Why the hell would you use 99% alcohol.
When you easily have paper, or even better yet. Mixed Gasoline For Your Auger?

And for a fact i know no matter how much you soak a roll of t paper with mythol?(there is no such thing) but if you mean Methyl Hydrate(Dont mess with this stuff. highly Explosive. Pure Alcohol). or methanol or alchohol. Its not going to burn for 3 hours
99% alcohol. Isnt Flamable.
Its Explosive.
When it goes. it Goes.

Make a Wood Fire Imo.
Much Safer.
thats Just Like Saying. I Have a Flaming Peice Of paper.
lets Throw Some Everclear On it!!! ITll Burn Longer!
And tell me this Boys And Girls.
What happens when you mess with an explosive compound?
Kahhh BOOoM

You've never actually put a match to methyl hydrate have you? Ignore your Chem. 20 text book. Go buy a bottle and hit it with a match, then come back here and post your results...

[Shmag]

Originally Posted by ice

One question from me.
Why the hell would you use 99% alcohol.
When you easily have paper, or even better yet. Mixed Gasoline For Your Auger?

And for a fact i know no matter how much you soak a roll of t paper with mythol?(there is no such thing) but if you mean Methyl Hydrate(Dont mess with this stuff. highly Explosive. Pure Alcohol). or methanol or alchohol. Its not going to burn for 3 hours
99% alcohol. Isnt Flamable.
Its Explosive.
When it goes. it Goes.

Make a Wood Fire Imo.
Much Safer.
thats Just Like Saying. I Have a Flaming Peice Of paper.
lets Throw Some Everclear On it!!! ITll Burn Longer!
And tell me this Boys And Girls.
What happens when you mess with an explosive compound?
Kahhh BOOoM

Sorry, but you are so wrong...this has been around from the days of tobacco cans and probably longer than that. Just like Muskeg, i have used it with a roll of toilet paper and gives off amazing heat and yes three hours or better sounds about right. CSA approved...probably not...lol

[GummyMonster]

Ice,
You must have burned your fingers as a kid eh!
Found a case of that 99% alcohol in our acreage when we moved , I used it to start the fire pit and such.It doesn't seem to crazily volatile.(IMO of course)
Neat idea inventor,heard of the concept but wasn't sure what fuel guys used.
Thanx!!
Ken

[kodiakken]

Don't know if the fumes from it burning are good or bad but I would think that they are bad.
I know at work they very, very strongly advise us to use rubber gloves when handling it. 5 ml's of it on your skin can start to cause deterioration to your eyes and liver for starters. Stronger doses and this is just absorbed through the skin not ingested starts to deteriorate all internal organs.
Thanks i will spend the money on a propane heater.

Ken

[scott_edmonton]

I have a question, where in Edmonton can I find methyl hydrate? I tried SuperStore, there is nothing under that name. it would be great if you could give me a tip.

Thanks

[Dougie55]

Ice obviously has no idea what he is talking about. Methyl Hydrate is very safe to work with, and like stated above, unless under pressure and the proper conditions, is not explosive. Because of the purity of grain alcohol, it burns at a high heat, and does not have a large flame, which, unlike gasoline that is a mixture that burns with a bigger flame. If it were so dangerous, why were the original 'canned heat' products like Sterno based on pure alcohol base is a jelly. Most are still like that.
I too have been using the tobacco tin t/p heaters for years. They are perfect in the little single man pop up tents under the seat. I never had much problem with fumes, but maybe I am already braindead.Thanks I guess to my dad that used to smoke a ton, and save the cans to put screws and things in, I have a good supply...
Inventor.. Good post, and one that will probably be helpful to lots of people.
I saw a 'hole cover' like you describe a few years back, and the fellow that had it swore the hole would take forever to freeze over. May have to build one this week and try it. Thanks a lot.
Methyl Hydrate can be bought at Crappy Tire, Home Depot, Revy, or anywhere like that. It is Gas Line antifreeze.

[BigBuck$]

Originally Posted by Muskeg

I learned a similar thing from my grandpa in the 70's using a tobacco can and a roll of toilet paper instead of wood and paint can.. might be tough to find an old tobacco can these days.

I do this myself and it works great. I bought a bunch of tobacco cans at an auction sale a few years ago, I have quite a few if anyone wants one to try it.

Gas line antifreeze is the same as methylhydrate, any gas station or NAPA will have it.

[pikester]

I don't know about the safety factor in regards to breathing methyl hydrate fumes but I work with heaters all winter at work & can tell you that gas & diesel fumes are VERY BAD to inhale! Diesel heaters if well vented can be okay but still not great. Propane is very common but still not the safest option. I get terrible headaches & sleepy even when using propane heaters which are designed for this purpose so i don't see methyl hydrate being any more dangerous. Electric is certainly the only safe alternative but obviously impractical unless one hauls a generator around. Great, now I need a bigger truck to haul all my ice gear!

[bubba 96]

If I rember correctly, the fuel I use in my fondu pot is also methal hydrate, and we have fondu's once a month indoors, never had a problem..If anybody is having trouble finding it its gas line antifreeze..Bubba

[Dougie55]

Just dug out my old Colman tent heater. It is one of those ones you fill with Camp Fuel or MH and turn over until the mat thing on top gets a wet spot, and then light that. It recommends not to be used in non-ventilated rooms, but tents etc fine. Being a fuel of any kind, the fumes would not be good for you, but the fine amount of flame these have, I doubt there is much to worry about with them. Far from the worries of Propane or Butane. I used to use that heater sleeping in the back of my truck (canopy of course), for years while hunting and fishing.

[foxracing_23]

Dont listen to "ice" he obviously dont know ****.
Coffee can, TP, and methyl hydrate.
Make sure you have a metal pot or pan lid to put it out with and it is NOT explosive, The fumes burn as they evaporate and this is the hottest and safest so long as you dont kick it over. The coffee can is even cold an inch from the top, but dont move it while its burning. if you spill you increase the surface area, increase the evaporation and well...its not horrible but its not pretty. I fish in a tshirt in -40.

And methyl hydrate burns A LOT cleaner than propane

[randster]

Originally Posted by bubba 96

If I rember correctly, the fuel I use in my fondu pot is also methal hydrate, and we have fondu's once a month indoors, never had a problem..If anybody is having trouble finding it its gas line antifreeze..Bubba

You took the words right out of my mouth. The dangerous part of a fondu is the hot oil, more so than the fumes or flame.
The wife buys fondu fuel at the grocerie store. Is it exactly the same as gas line antifreeze ?, I don't know.
My 0.02 cents

[buckmaster]

Originally Posted by scott_edmonton

I have a question, where in Edmonton can I find methyl hydrate? I tried SuperStore, there is nothing under that name. it would be great if you could give me a tip.

Thanks

home depot has lots in the painting section.

[pecker]

anyone want to buy my sportkat heaters