Giant Mule Deer: missing need help!

[wildwoods]

Thank God you got him back. I'm so happy to hear.
And thy gentleman who found it will reap what's he's sown for sure. What a great gesture

[sage 13]

Yes good deal, and very nice gesture by the finder of the buck.

[DJS]

Contrats Jeff. Awesome ending to your adventure !

[denied access]

Firstly congrats on getting the head back. Its obviously the only part of the deer that you cared about.

Here is what is wrong with this whole situation

Everyone seems to be crowing about what bad sportsman people are who said they would keep the head. Not many seem appalled by the fact that you took a sub par shot at a glorious animal on the off chance you could hit it and hang it on the wall so you could then brag to all your friends about your hunting prowess. You then give some lame story about a whole crew looking for the deer for a week. A week? Really? No magpies or crows? Or smell? In September? You wasted the deer, and you screwed everyone else who was after the same buck out of a chance to take it ethically. But at least you got your head. Heck, saved packing out the meat so in the long run your probably the winner.

I usually try to stay out of these arguments but all the people backslapping you for what seem to me poor ethics and backhanding those who figure finders keepers is sickening.

Congrats on the head. I hope the taxidermist has a cape to sell you so you can make it a complete package. Hopefully every time you look at it you think about passing up a shot instead of gut shooting and abandoning an animal.

[Bub]

[DJS]

Originally Posted by denied access

Firstly congrats on getting the head back. Its obviously the only part of the deer that you cared about.

Here is what is wrong with this whole situation

Everyone seems to be crowing about what bad sportsman people are who said they would keep the head. Not many seem appalled by the fact that you took a sub par shot at a glorious animal on the off chance you could hit it and hang it on the wall so you could then brag to all your friends about your hunting prowess. You then give some lame story about a whole crew looking for the deer for a week. A week? Really? No magpies or crows? Or smell? In September? You wasted the deer, and you screwed everyone else who was after the same buck out of a chance to take it ethically. But at least you got your head. Heck, saved packing out the meat so in the long run your probably the winner.

I usually try to stay out of these arguments but all the people backslapping you for what seem to me poor ethics and backhanding those who figure finders keepers is sickening.

Congrats on the head. I hope the taxidermist has a cape to sell you so you can make it a complete package. Hopefully every time you look at it you think about passing up a shot instead of gut shooting and abandoning an animal.

Great contribution to the thread. Everyone here is better after reading it.

[Jeffbridge]

Originally Posted by denied access

Firstly congrats on getting the head back. Its obviously the only part of the deer that you cared about.

Here is what is wrong with this whole situation

Everyone seems to be crowing about what bad sportsman people are who said they would keep the head. Not many seem appalled by the fact that you took a sub par shot at a glorious animal on the off chance you could hit it and hang it on the wall so you could then brag to all your friends about your hunting prowess. You then give some lame story about a whole crew looking for the deer for a week. A week? Really? No magpies or crows? Or smell? In September? You wasted the deer, and you screwed everyone else who was after the same buck out of a chance to take it ethically. But at least you got your head. Heck, saved packing out the meat so in the long run your probably the winner.

I usually try to stay out of these arguments but all the people backslapping you for what seem to me poor ethics and backhanding those who figure finders keepers is sickening.

Congrats on the head. I hope the taxidermist has a cape to sell you so you can make it a complete package. Hopefully every time you look at it you think about passing up a shot instead of gut shooting and abandoning an animal.

Normally I would never reply to a hateful negative comment like yours for the following reasons;
1: I realize that no one ever wins in an online "debate"
2: I realize that there will always be petty losers out there who are forever looking for a chance to **** on someone else's parade.
3: I realize that you're probably not a bad guy, your just insecure from a lifetime of childhood abuse or trauma and you can no longer be a bully on the schoolyard so you hide behind the anonymity of a public web platform and spew your jealousy and lack of personal contentment at the rest of the world.

If you would have just called me short, fat, and ugly, I wouldn't have said anything. I'm 5'9", 165 lbs, and I have the nose of King Kong and the Jawline of Harland Williams, so I would have just moved on. However, you accused me of lying and of being unethical in both my shot attempt and recovery efforts. Although I don't need to vindicate myself to the likes of you, I will briefly address your accusations. I will then move on with my life, with my 221" mule deer on my wall, and I'll never think of you or this thread again.

The shot was 59 yards exactly, on a quartering away deer, with very little wind. I typically practice at this range and much further and normally feel very confident in my ability. I will admit that buck fever got to me, and due to either a rushed shot process or inability to completely control my shakes, I hit the deer farther back then I would have liked, and instead of pushing him, I decided my best chance of recovering him would be in the morning with a group of friends. I knew the shot was lethal and that if he wasn't bumped he would likely go to the bottom of the hill and bed down.
As far as my recovery efforts go, I won't even go into detail about the collective effort by not only me but my friends and family as well, who selflessly gave of their own hunting time to try help me recover this deer. I will say that when I finally did find the deer I was on KM 76 since I had started looking. (I track every step using gps) I also know that at least one of my friends was over 50 kms on his boots as well. The entrance hole must have become plugged and there was no exit hole, so we only ever found one drop of blood. So we were simply grid searching every square inch of that property, in every bush patch and gully, until I did finally stumble onto him.

I give every effort to recover every animal I shoot at. The meat is one of the greatest rewards of a successful hunt. And after the first day I knew the meat would no longer be good, but I also knew that the buck was dead somewhere. So I was not about to stop looking until I found him. I even went down the river for several miles, thinking that he may have fallen in and hung up somewhere downstream.

So in closing. I hope you have a wonderful life and maybe someday you can find professional help and won't be such an insecure, hateful, bottom-feeding, joy crusher. Who knows, maybe someday you'll even experience the capacity to feel joy. My advice would be, until that happens, do yourself and everyone else a favor and leave your pathetic, assuming, mudslinging BS off the web. Delete your account, and go away.

Sincerely,
Jeff

P.S. Another heartfelt thanks to the gentleman who gave me the deer, and my friends who helped me look. Also to everyone on here who had positive things to say, or shared their opinion in a constructive manner. There are truly great people in this hunting community and I would be honored to share a campfire with many of you. Good luck and God bless!

[Bassett]

Originally Posted by Jeffbridge

Hey everyone, I just want to add a quick update. I honestly thought I'd never see those antlers again! Well, thanks to the networking power of this Forum, and the absolutely unbelievable generosity of a complete stranger, I not only got to see the antlers, but they are now in my possession.



I didn't want to post anything on here until I was sure that everything was legal and that all the proper steps had been taken. But long story short is:



I was called by a gentleman who said he had the head in question. He said that they were rightfully mine if I killed the buck and that he would just give them to me if I wanted them. (I almost choked up when I heard that) I called my local warden (who I had been in contact with since Sept 2nd) and he told me to bring them in to the office.

Upon reviewing my footage, pictures, and story it was determined that I had legally killed that particular deer, with my bow, in a general archery season. I was able to use my unfolded tag to acquire proper ownership from the Crown.



I thought I was cursed this year, and was having the worst season of my entire life. In reality it was all just part of God's plan to teach me patience and persistence, and was the greatest hunting blessing of my entire life!



There are so many details and so many people that I need to thank, that I just don't have time to do it properly now. I will post pics once the head is back from being cleaned by TopNotch Taxidermy in Coaldale.



For now I just want to say thanks to everyone who took an interest in this thread and my story. Really it was that interest that triggered this remarkable sequence of events.



If you'd like to follow along with the rest of the story, or go back and catch up on the original details, please check out my Instagram @huntingjeep99

Can't wait to see the photos. Not only perseverance in the field but online as well. Glad the deer is back with the rightful owner regardless of how it was found. Congrats!


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[rem338win]

Originally Posted by denied access

Firstly congrats on getting the head back. Its obviously the only part of the deer that you cared about.

Here is what is wrong with this whole situation

Everyone seems to be crowing about what bad sportsman people are who said they would keep the head. Not many seem appalled by the fact that you took a sub par shot at a glorious animal on the off chance you could hit it and hang it on the wall so you could then brag to all your friends about your hunting prowess. You then give some lame story about a whole crew looking for the deer for a week. A week? Really? No magpies or crows? Or smell? In September? You wasted the deer, and you screwed everyone else who was after the same buck out of a chance to take it ethically. But at least you got your head. Heck, saved packing out the meat so in the long run your probably the winner.

I usually try to stay out of these arguments but all the people backslapping you for what seem to me poor ethics and backhanding those who figure finders keepers is sickening.

Congrats on the head. I hope the taxidermist has a cape to sell you so you can make it a complete package. Hopefully every time you look at it you think about passing up a shot instead of gut shooting and abandoning an animal.

Wow. You should probably remember to stay out of these arguments like you said you normally do. It'll prevent you from looking like the south end of anything northbound.

I now people involved in looking hard for this animal. They made considerable effort and not one to be doubted. Nope, Jeff didnt go out of his way to shoot a fork horn. Bad Jeff. So evil.

Get over yourself.

[wildwoods]

Originally Posted by denied access

Firstly congrats on getting the head back. Its obviously the only part of the deer that you cared about.

Here is what is wrong with this whole situation

Everyone seems to be crowing about what bad sportsman people are who said they would keep the head. Not many seem appalled by the fact that you took a sub par shot at a glorious animal on the off chance you could hit it and hang it on the wall so you could then brag to all your friends about your hunting prowess. You then give some lame story about a whole crew looking for the deer for a week. A week? Really? No magpies or crows? Or smell? In September? You wasted the deer, and you screwed everyone else who was after the same buck out of a chance to take it ethically. But at least you got your head. Heck, saved packing out the meat so in the long run your probably the winner.

I usually try to stay out of these arguments but all the people backslapping you for what seem to me poor ethics and backhanding those who figure finders keepers is sickening.

Congrats on the head. I hope the taxidermist has a cape to sell you so you can make it a complete package. Hopefully every time you look at it you think about passing up a shot instead of gut shooting and abandoning an animal.

This is ridiculous^^^^^
Never made a suspect shot in your life? Never lost an animal? I have and it stinks. theres probably nobody on this board who hasn't had a tough retrieval due to human error.
At least that beasts headgear will be preserved for many to enjoy for years to come- instead of having rodents chew it.
My freezer is full of venison every year and I'm thankful for that. But there's nothing wrong with lamenting a lost deer that sports a massive rack like this one.

Congrats again OP. Glad this deer didn't go completely to waste. He's a true Alberta relic and MOST folks are stoked for you.

[Passthru]

Glad you got him back. Nice to hear some positive things coming out of this forum.

[denied access]

Originally Posted by Jeffbridge

Normally I would never reply to a hateful negative comment like yours for the following reasons;
1: I realize that no one ever wins in an online "debate"
2: I realize that there will always be petty losers out there who are forever looking for a chance to **** on someone else's parade.
3: I realize that you're probably not a bad guy, your just insecure from a lifetime of childhood abuse or trauma and you can no longer be a bully on the schoolyard so you hide behind the anonymity of a public web platform and spew your jealousy and lack of personal contentment at the rest of the world.

If you would have just called me short, fat, and ugly, I wouldn't have said anything. I'm 5'9", 165 lbs, and I have the nose of King Kong and the Jawline of Harland Williams, so I would have just moved on. However, you accused me of lying and of being unethical in both my shot attempt and recovery efforts. Although I don't need to vindicate myself to the likes of you, I will briefly address your accusations. I will then move on with my life, with my 221" mule deer on my wall, and I'll never think of you or this thread again.

The shot was 59 yards exactly, on a quartering away deer, with very little wind. I typically practice at this range and much further and normally feel very confident in my ability. I will admit that buck fever got to me, and due to either a rushed shot process or inability to completely control my shakes, I hit the deer farther back then I would have liked, and instead of pushing him, I decided my best chance of recovering him would be in the morning with a group of friends. I knew the shot was lethal and that if he wasn't bumped he would likely go to the bottom of the hill and bed down.
As far as my recovery efforts go, I won't even go into detail about the collective effort by not only me but my friends and family as well, who selflessly gave of their own hunting time to try help me recover this deer. I will say that when I finally did find the deer I was on KM 76 since I had started looking. (I track every step using gps) I also know that at least one of my friends was over 50 kms on his boots as well. The entrance hole must have become plugged and there was no exit hole, so we only ever found one drop of blood. So we were simply grid searching every square inch of that property, in every bush patch and gully, until I did finally stumble onto him.

I give every effort to recover every animal I shoot at. The meat is one of the greatest rewards of a successful hunt. And after the first day I knew the meat would no longer be good, but I also knew that the buck was dead somewhere. So I was not about to stop looking until I found him. I even went down the river for several miles, thinking that he may have fallen in and hung up somewhere downstream.

So in closing. I hope you have a wonderful life and maybe someday you can find professional help and won't be such an insecure, hateful, bottom-feeding, joy crusher. Who knows, maybe someday you'll even experience the capacity to feel joy. My advice would be, until that happens, do yourself and everyone else a favor and leave your pathetic, assuming, mudslinging BS off the web. Delete your account, and go away.

Sincerely,
Jeff

P.S. Another heartfelt thanks to the gentleman who gave me the deer, and my friends who helped me look. Also to everyone on here who had positive things to say, or shared their opinion in a constructive manner. There are truly great people in this hunting community and I would be honored to share a campfire with many of you. Good luck and God bless!

Your a class act all the way. I especially like the childhood abuse or trauma comment. Shows your ethics. Probably makes all the people who have suffered such things feel great that you acknowledge their pain. So am i a petty loser or a bully? I feel you maybe got bullied. i didnt do it but I offer an apology on behalf of all bullies for stealing your lunch.

I am sorry for calling you unethical for rushing a 70 yard shot while you had the shakes. You are right. Perfectly ethical thing to do. And for your awsome recovery efforts I applaud you. 76 kms is a long way. Not so long if it took you a week. 10 kms per day. You must have been tired. I run 10km races quite often and I am a bit tired after. It takes about an hour. You say you are 5'9" so maybe 10 km is a lot of steps with short legs. I guess you could rest in the stand while waiting for another buck the other 12 hours of the day that you were not walking. Or maybe you were going super slow. Being careful. 10km/12 hrs is about .8 km/hr. I see why you dont want to go into detail about your recovery efforts. That would be hard. 6 miles a day does not offer a lot of details. Or maybe too many details. At less than 1km/hr you could probably identify every flower and insect. Have a chat with a caterpillar keeping pace with you.

I don't feel that i am a "insecure, hateful, bottom-feeding, joy crusher" but I could be wrong. Your fanclub certainly seems to think so. I dont have a fanclub. My loss I guess. Maybe i should video my acticities and put them on the web. Maybe while I **** around with a camera getting the angle right I can gut shoot a moose. That would be some quality viewing. Wow the definition of ethical seems to have changed since I took hunter ethics back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

Maybe I am just viewing this whole thing wrong? Maybe instead of a "horn hunter makes suspect shot cause all he saw was horns and did not find buck cause of second rate tracking and search but found a sucker to do his work for him" story, its a "poor little super sportsman reunited with love of his life and has his whole persona of hunter of the century vindicated and can now be hero to millions for his hunting prowess" story. Will the stink of the rotten meat smell up your trophy room?

All right. i'm a fan now. Where do i sign up? Is there a newsletter? Do I get a secret decoder ring?

And yes I have made a suspect shot. And yes I lost a deer once....when I was 14 and didnt know any better.

Have fun. Happy hunting. You got your trophy and thats all that matter in the end.

[hal53]

Originally Posted by denied access

Your a class act all the way. I especially like the childhood abuse or trauma comment. Shows your ethics. Probably makes all the people who have suffered such things feel great that you acknowledge their pain. So am i a petty loser or a bully? I feel you maybe got bullied. i didnt do it but I offer an apology on behalf of all bullies for stealing your lunch.

I am sorry for calling you unethical for rushing a 70 yard shot while you had the shakes. You are right. Perfectly ethical thing to do. And for your awsome recovery efforts I applaud you. 76 kms is a long way. Not so long if it took you a week. 10 kms per day. You must have been tired. I run 10km races quite often and I am a bit tired after. It takes about an hour. You say you are 5'9" so maybe 10 km is a lot of steps with short legs. I guess you could rest in the stand while waiting for another buck the other 12 hours of the day that you were not walking. Or maybe you were going super slow. Being careful. 10km/12 hrs is about .8 km/hr. I see why you dont want to go into detail about your recovery efforts. That would be hard. 6 miles a day does not offer a lot of details. Or maybe too many details. At less than 1km/hr you could probably identify every flower and insect. Have a chat with a caterpillar keeping pace with you.

I don't feel that i am a "insecure, hateful, bottom-feeding, joy crusher" but I could be wrong. Your fanclub certainly seems to think so. I dont have a fanclub. My loss I guess. Maybe i should video my acticities and put them on the web. Maybe while I **** around with a camera getting the angle right I can gut shoot a moose. That would be some quality viewing. Wow the definition of ethical seems to have changed since I took hunter ethics back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

Maybe I am just viewing this whole thing wrong? Maybe instead of a "horn hunter makes suspect shot cause all he saw was horns and did not find buck cause of second rate tracking and search but found a sucker to do his work for him" story, its a "poor little super sportsman reunited with love of his life and has his whole persona of hunter of the century vindicated and can now be hero to millions for his hunting prowess" story. Will the stink of the rotten meat smell up your trophy room?

All right. i'm a fan now. Where do i sign up? Is there a newsletter? Do I get a secret decoder ring?

And yes I have made a suspect shot. And yes I lost a deer once....when I was 14 and didnt know any better.

Have fun. Happy hunting. You got your trophy and thats all that matter in the end.

What an angry, jealous person you must be..one day maybe the rest of us can be as good t everything as you are....

[denied access]

Originally Posted by hal53

What an angry, jealous person you must be..one day maybe the rest of us can be as good t everything as you are....

How do you figure that?

[hal53]

Originally Posted by denied access

How do you figure that?

I read both your posts.....

[denied access]

Originally Posted by hal53

I read both your posts.....

I apologize for coming across like that. Not my intent at all. I am not an angry person. I admit that I was a bit peeved at the holes in his story and more so at the fanboys slapping him on the back for gut shooting a deer. I dont feel that I could be jealous of someone who I have no idea who he is. I am certainly not good at everything and never meant to imply that I never make mistakes. I make a lot of them including expressing my opinion on the gut shot mule deer. I will take your critisism constructively. All the best.

[catnthehat]

There other part of this story is that the person who found the dead animal would have to either tag it or apply for a permit to legally be in possession of it .
Personally I would have given the antlers to whoever I found shot it originally .
I would not have put them in my truck but would have let him know where to find them with a GPS location
Cat

[buckbrush]

Great to hear you got the deer!!
I have been following this and could almost feel the pain in your words.

I like to think of myself as an ETHICAL hunter. Unfortunately, I have had the heart break of losing a nice deer. I had practiced the shot at much longer distances. I tried taking my time and not getting too excited. As soon as my arrow left I knew it wasn't a good hit.

I spent no where near as much time looking for my deer as you did but I felt like I had put in an honest effort and could not find the deer anywhere.

IMO, you deserve to enjoy that deer as you went above and beyond what most people here would do.

Yes it is sad to lose all that meat but having those antlers will bring memories for life. I hunt for meat but once the meat is long gone and enjoyed I like to have a set of antlers to relive the hunt and memories.

I can not believe how lucky you got to have them found by the gentleman who did. Honestly, even if I didn't harvest the animal I would have a hard time giving away a 220 inch rack I had found. I wouldn't claim i had shot it but who doesn't like to look at a 220 inch rack in the corner of their game room?

[wildwoods]

Originally Posted by denied access

I apologize for coming across like that. Not my intent at all. I am not an angry person. I admit that I was a bit peeved at the holes in his story and more so at the fanboys slapping him on the back for gut shooting a deer. I dont feel that I could be jealous of someone who I have no idea who he is. I am certainly not good at everything and never meant to imply that I never make mistakes. I make a lot of them including expressing my opinion on the gut shot mule deer. I will take your critisism constructively. All the best.

I have no idea who the OP is. I'm not following him on social media. I couldn't care less about that stuff. Guy lost a buck of a lifetime and yeah I'll cheer all day long to see him get it back. Ethics are personal- not defined by our own small view of the world and painted on others with a broad brush.
Nobody is slapping a guys back for gut shooting a deer. He made a poor shot.
We all have (except you apparently).
Perhaps a more diplomatic approach would help change the future. The past is past. I'm sure the OP will consider this situation if it were ever to present itself again

[KBF]

Originally Posted by Jeffbridge

Hey everyone, I just want to add a quick update. I honestly thought I'd never see those antlers again! Well, thanks to the networking power of this Forum, and the absolutely unbelievable generosity of a complete stranger, I not only got to see the antlers, but they are now in my possession.

I didn't want to post anything on here until I was sure that everything was legal and that all the proper steps had been taken. But long story short is:

I was called by a gentleman who said he had the head in question. He said that they were rightfully mine if I killed the buck and that he would just give them to me if I wanted them. (I almost choked up when I heard that) I called my local warden (who I had been in contact with since Sept 2nd) and he told me to bring them in to the office.
Upon reviewing my footage, pictures, and story it was determined that I had legally killed that particular deer, with my bow, in a general archery season. I was able to use my unfolded tag to acquire proper ownership from the Crown.

I thought I was cursed this year, and was having the worst season of my entire life. In reality it was all just part of God's plan to teach me patience and persistence, and was the greatest hunting blessing of my entire life!

There are so many details and so many people that I need to thank, that I just don't have time to do it properly now. I will post pics once the head is back from being cleaned by TopNotch Taxidermy in Coaldale.

For now I just want to say thanks to everyone who took an interest in this thread and my story. Really it was that interest that triggered this remarkable sequence of events.

If you'd like to follow along with the rest of the story, or go back and catch up on the original details, please check out my Instagram @huntingjeep99

Glad you got the antlers back. I bet you are glad now you backed out on the other big non typical you talked about on your Facebook page, the one the Fatal Impact crew was able to take on their opening day of rifle season. This will be an interesting season to watch episodes for Fatal Impact.

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by denied access

Your a class act all the way. I especially like the childhood abuse or trauma comment. Shows your ethics. Probably makes all the people who have suffered such things feel great that you acknowledge their pain. So am i a petty loser or a bully? I feel you maybe got bullied. i didnt do it but I offer an apology on behalf of all bullies for stealing your lunch.

I am sorry for calling you unethical for rushing a 70 yard shot while you had the shakes. You are right. Perfectly ethical thing to do. And for your awsome recovery efforts I applaud you. 76 kms is a long way. Not so long if it took you a week. 10 kms per day. You must have been tired. I run 10km races quite often and I am a bit tired after. It takes about an hour. You say you are 5'9" so maybe 10 km is a lot of steps with short legs. I guess you could rest in the stand while waiting for another buck the other 12 hours of the day that you were not walking. Or maybe you were going super slow. Being careful. 10km/12 hrs is about .8 km/hr. I see why you dont want to go into detail about your recovery efforts. That would be hard. 6 miles a day does not offer a lot of details. Or maybe too many details. At less than 1km/hr you could probably identify every flower and insect. Have a chat with a caterpillar keeping pace with you.

I don't feel that i am a "insecure, hateful, bottom-feeding, joy crusher" but I could be wrong. Your fanclub certainly seems to think so. I dont have a fanclub. My loss I guess. Maybe i should video my acticities and put them on the web. Maybe while I **** around with a camera getting the angle right I can gut shoot a moose. That would be some quality viewing. Wow the definition of ethical seems to have changed since I took hunter ethics back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

Maybe I am just viewing this whole thing wrong? Maybe instead of a "horn hunter makes suspect shot cause all he saw was horns and did not find buck cause of second rate tracking and search but found a sucker to do his work for him" story, its a "poor little super sportsman reunited with love of his life and has his whole persona of hunter of the century vindicated and can now be hero to millions for his hunting prowess" story. Will the stink of the rotten meat smell up your trophy room?

All right. i'm a fan now. Where do i sign up? Is there a newsletter? Do I get a secret decoder ring?

And yes I have made a suspect shot. And yes I lost a deer once....when I was 14 and didnt know any better.

Have fun. Happy hunting. You got your trophy and thats all that matter in the end.

Sounds like you do have your own fanboy. And hes an angry one.

Never seen a stitch of Jeff's videos. Never hunted with him either. I do know people that helped him and i do know they worked hard at it.

You've showing off a level of class that should be reserved for $10 champagne rooms.

Im getting a kick out of the irony in your self glorifying posts as well. Mocking someone for videoing and sharing hunts because some how this is egotistical, then making sure you drop how hard and fast you can run.

Yay you.

[denied access]

Originally Posted by rem338win

Sounds like you do have your own fanboy. And hes an angry one.

Never seen a stitch of Jeff's videos. Never hunted with him either. I do know people that helped him and i do know they worked hard at it.

You've showing off a level of class that should be reserved for $10 champagne rooms.

Im getting a kick out of the irony in your self glorifying posts as well. Mocking someone for videoing and sharing hunts because some how this is egotistical, then making sure you drop how hard and fast you can run.

Yay you.

So he says all that crap about child abuse and trauma and calls me every thing under the sun but I lack class? Why? Cause i questioned his BS story?

So running a 10k in 1 hr is bragging? Maybe you need to come out of the champagne room (insert mom or sister joke here) and go for a jog. 10k in an hour sucks. Im a pretty slow runner.

I wasn't mocking him for taping his hunts. At first i wasnt mocking him at all. i just pointed out that his story was BS and that I didnt think it was right that everyone seemed appalled that some would keep the head but not many said anything about the poor shooting and retrievel in the first place. After he spewed all his verbal diarea I did mock him a bit.
I was mocking him for spending too much time worrying about the camera angle and not enough time lining up the shot. I was mocking him for saying he looked for a week in Sept and never saw birds. I was mocking him for trying to impress everyone with his 76km stuff after saying he looked for a week. And now Im mocking you for not being able to think for yourself or being able to divide 76km by 7 and for attempting some kind of pathetic "I know people" name dropping routine. But hey man, jump on the dogpile, always room for one more.

But thats enough on this topic. i wont convince you that gut shooting a deer is a bad thing and you wont convince me that the guy looked as hard as he says he did and didnt see birds. It all worked out. He got his horns. Hes happy. You got to come to his defense. Your happy. I dont know either one of you personally or socially. Im happy.

Yay all of us.

[Supergrit]

Anyone can make a bad shot it was just a crappy day hunt enough and it will happen.

[Jeffbridge]

Originally Posted by denied access

So he says all that crap about child abuse and trauma and calls me every thing under the sun but I lack class? Why? Cause i questioned his BS story?

So running a 10k in 1 hr is bragging? Maybe you need to come out of the champagne room (insert mom or sister joke here) and go for a jog. 10k in an hour sucks. Im a pretty slow runner.

I wasn't mocking him for taping his hunts. At first i wasnt mocking him at all. i just pointed out that his story was BS and that I didnt think it was right that everyone seemed appalled that some would keep the head but not many said anything about the poor shooting and retrievel in the first place. After he spewed all his verbal diarea I did mock him a bit.
I was mocking him for spending too much time worrying about the camera angle and not enough time lining up the shot. I was mocking him for saying he looked for a week in Sept and never saw birds. I was mocking him for trying to impress everyone with his 76km stuff after saying he looked for a week. And now Im mocking you for not being able to think for yourself or being able to divide 76km by 7 and for attempting some kind of pathetic "I know people" name dropping routine. But hey man, jump on the dogpile, always room for one more.

But thats enough on this topic. i wont convince you that gut shooting a deer is a bad thing and you wont convince me that the guy looked as hard as he says he did and didnt see birds. It all worked out. He got his horns. Hes happy. You got to come to his defense. Your happy. I dont know either one of you personally or socially. Im happy.

Yay all of us.

I wasn't planning on revisiting this thread, but I've felt compelled to say one more thing.

Denied Access, I am truly sorry for the way I personally lashed out at you. I allowed my emotions to cloud my better judgement and responded in a way that was unbecoming, unwarranted, and unchristian.
I told my story, but I should have never assumed that everyone would simply believe it word for word without question, especially when some of the information didn't seem to add up. I attacked you for simply doing what all of us have to do every day, which is simply drawing a conclusion based on the information you were given. Why should I have assumed that no one would doubt my veracity? Furthermore, I should have never taken it personally when someone DID doubt my veracity.
I know that the information I gave was the unbridled truth. However, you don't know that, and it's your prerogative to doubt it. That doesn't mean you're attacking me personally, you don't even know me, so you have the right to assume whatever you like about my character.
In the end, I should have never taken personal offense, and I should have NEVER responded with personal attacks in retaliation. I hope that you'll accept my sincere apology.

Jeff

P.S. Don't sell yourself short on your running. A 60 min 10K is nothing to sneeze at! I've never run 5k in under 24 minutes and my last 5K was over 27 minutes! I'd consider it a win to simply finish a 10K let alone at a 6min pace.

[denied access]

Originally Posted by Jeffbridge

I wasn't planning on revisiting this thread, but I've felt compelled to say one more thing.

Denied Access, I am truly sorry for the way I personally lashed out at you. I allowed my emotions to cloud my better judgement and responded in a way that was unbecoming, unwarranted, and unchristian.
I told my story, but I should have never assumed that everyone would simply believe it word for word without question, especially when some of the information didn't seem to add up. I attacked you for simply doing what all of us have to do every day, which is simply drawing a conclusion based on the information you were given. Why should I have assumed that no one would doubt my veracity? Furthermore, I should have never taken it personally when someone DID doubt my veracity.
I know that the information I gave was the unbridled truth. However, you don't know that, and it's your prerogative to doubt it. That doesn't mean you're attacking me personally, you don't even know me, so you have the right to assume whatever you like about my character.
In the end, I should have never taken personal offense, and I should have NEVER responded with personal attacks in retaliation. I hope that you'll accept my sincere apology.

Jeff

P.S. Don't sell yourself short on your running. A 60 min 10K is nothing to sneeze at! I've never run 5k in under 24 minutes and my last 5K was over 27 minutes! I'd consider it a win to simply finish a 10K let alone at a 6min pace.

Thank you for that. That was the mark of a gentleman. I gratefully accept your apology and offer one of my own. It is not my place to comment on or even doubt your honesty. I am sure that you did everything reasonable (and beyond reasonable) to recover that incredible buck. I am sure it was devestating the minute you squeezed the release. We have all been there and felt our heart drop. Again i apologize for my behaviour and offer a hearty congratulations not only on recovering the head but in putting in the time and work to put yourself within shooting distance of that monster. No easy task. On top of that i must tip my hat to you for asking for help after the fact on a public forum. Many would have pretended it never happened and go on to fill their tag elsewhere. You chose to lay it on the line for all to see and that was very brave of you. All the best to you and yours. Happy hunting and I am glad the story had a happy ending. If you ever get up this way first beer is on me.

If you can run 5K you can run 10k. Its them dang marathoners need their heads examined.

[sns2]

Glad this battle ended well. Good job fellas.

[Supergrit]

I wonder if Ben Johnson hunts he would be really fast but probably take away his trophy for steroid usage

[rem338win]

Originally Posted by denied access

So he says all that crap about child abuse and trauma and calls me every thing under the sun but I lack class? Why? Cause i questioned his BS story?

So running a 10k in 1 hr is bragging? Maybe you need to come out of the champagne room (insert mom or sister joke here) and go for a jog. 10k in an hour sucks. Im a pretty slow runner.

I wasn't mocking him for taping his hunts. At first i wasnt mocking him at all. i just pointed out that his story was BS and that I didnt think it was right that everyone seemed appalled that some would keep the head but not many said anything about the poor shooting and retrievel in the first place. After he spewed all his verbal diarea I did mock him a bit.
I was mocking him for spending too much time worrying about the camera angle and not enough time lining up the shot. I was mocking him for saying he looked for a week in Sept and never saw birds. I was mocking him for trying to impress everyone with his 76km stuff after saying he looked for a week. And now Im mocking you for not being able to think for yourself or being able to divide 76km by 7 and for attempting some kind of pathetic "I know people" name dropping routine. But hey man, jump on the dogpile, always room for one more.

But thats enough on this topic. i wont convince you that gut shooting a deer is a bad thing and you wont convince me that the guy looked as hard as he says he did and didnt see birds. It all worked out. He got his horns. Hes happy. You got to come to his defense. Your happy. I dont know either one of you personally or socially. Im happy.

Yay all of us.

Originally Posted by denied access

Thank you for that. That was the mark of a gentleman. I gratefully accept your apology and offer one of my own. It is not my place to comment on or even doubt your honesty. I am sure that you did everything reasonable (and beyond reasonable) to recover that incredible buck. I am sure it was devestating the minute you squeezed the release. We have all been there and felt our heart drop. Again i apologize for my behaviour and offer a hearty congratulations not only on recovering the head but in putting in the time and work to put yourself within shooting distance of that monster. No easy task. On top of that i must tip my hat to you for asking for help after the fact on a public forum. Many would have pretended it never happened and go on to fill their tag elsewhere. You chose to lay it on the line for all to see and that was very brave of you. All the best to you and yours. Happy hunting and I am glad the story had a happy ending. If you ever get up this way first beer is on me.

If you can run 5K you can run 10k. Its them dang marathoners need their heads examined.

I believe I came out of this thinking either drinking was involved or needs to be.

Or tampins.

Good lord. Glad you around to normal thinking.

[hayseed]

What an ending.

I need a beer.

[boah]

One question is still lingering with me. If the op shot the deer, then found it later spoiled or not. Is his tag still legal to use??