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Old 04-09-2024, 08:26 AM
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Just when you think that the City administration cannot get any more out of touch with the needs of the city and the high taxes we pay they come up with another new goodie --- hitting it out of the park -- almost as good as Tookers flooding the streets and skating to work

Special street lights and coverings for bike lanes. This socialist administration has no end to how they will spend other peoples money.

Interesting that this gem was not in Sohi's response letter to the province requesting funding being restored to address priorities. This just shows how out of touch this administration council is. Get more money -- waste is on soccer bids, electric buses and now street lighting for bike lanes.

The province needs to say no more money deal with what you have and let the citizens vote these clowns out.

https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/colu...-on-bike-lanes
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Old 04-09-2024, 08:40 AM
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I hope Danielle lets this place rot.
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Old 04-09-2024, 09:16 AM
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I hope Danielle lets this place rot.
I live here and couldn't agree more with this statement.

Maybe while there at it they can put coverings over all the streets and sell of their snow plows and street sweepers. Funny they haven't bought electric snow plows, graders and sweepers. In for a penny, in for a pound.

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Old 04-09-2024, 09:34 AM
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While I support bike lanes, they get cars off the road, they get help get people active and healthier, and they’re cheaper to maintain than roads. This is a ridiculous ask. Keep building out the network and install lights later on. Way too tight of a budget crunch currently for it to be worthwhile. Most who bike early mornings/later at night have either a headlamp or light on their bike anyway.
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Old 04-09-2024, 09:49 AM
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I know there are a lot of things we don't agree on regarding city spending, but I honestly believe that we all could retire easily with the money government wastes on buying votes. I'm sick and tired of politicians at every level, and of every stripe. They all just work for themselves under the guise of "working for the people". GET LOST!!!
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Old 04-09-2024, 10:03 AM
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Holy crap this council and the minions that bring these proposals to them are out of control. I can just hear Sohi & his band of idiot councilors saying how these lights will get more people biking. Ugggh, the urge to move out of Redmonton is getting stronger and stronger.


Yet I fear come the next election, most will get back in. What happened to this city since Bill Smith is sad.
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Old 04-09-2024, 10:07 AM
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I hope Danielle lets this place rot.
She needs to step back, and let them deal with their financial issues, most importantly, no provincial money to bail Edmonton out of the mess they created.
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Old 04-09-2024, 10:26 AM
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I know there are a lot of things we don't agree on regarding city spending, but I honestly believe that we all could retire easily with the money government wastes on buying votes. I'm sick and tired of politicians at every level, and of every stripe. They all just work for themselves under the guise of "working for the people". GET LOST!!!
Imagine if every level of government cut the woke spending out of their budgets. If they cut the BS green initiatives out of their budgets. The numbers would be mind boggling.

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Old 04-09-2024, 10:30 AM
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Imagine if every level of government cut the woke spending out of their budgets. If they cut the BS green initiatives out of their budgets. The numbers would be mind boggling.

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We would be operating at a surplus, and paying off the debt, and taxes could be reduced.
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:27 AM
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While I support bike lanes, they get cars off the road, they get help get people active and healthier, and they’re cheaper to maintain than roads. This is a ridiculous ask. Keep building out the network and install lights later on. Way too tight of a budget crunch currently for it to be worthwhile. Most who bike early mornings/later at night have either a headlamp or light on their bike anyway.
Bike lanes are a great deal for both of the cyclists in Edmonton that use them.
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:28 AM
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Stupid question... Isn't there already street lamps for the roads? And the bike lanes are part of said roads?

Or.. (and maybe I shouldn't be surprised) does Edmonton do bike lanes different than Calgary?
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:38 AM
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Stupid question... Isn't there already street lamps for the roads? And the bike lanes are part of said roads?

Or.. (and maybe I shouldn't be surprised) does Edmonton do bike lanes different than Calgary?
I was recently down in Seattle. Their bike lane system is much more advanced, they have these lights that are red/green/yellow specifically for the bike lane. I’m assuming that allows them to do different things for intersection control. I totally agree with building out the network first before getting into these smaller details .
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:55 AM
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Bike lanes are a great deal for both of the cyclists in Edmonton that use them.
Come on now, no need to exaggerate out of the million people in Edmonton, there might be 100 people using those lanes for year round transportation.
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Old 04-09-2024, 11:58 AM
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Come on now, no need to exaggerate out of the million people in Edmonton, there might be 100 people using those lanes for year round transportation.
No there isn’t.
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Old 04-09-2024, 12:34 PM
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No there isn’t.
Even if there were a hundred, that would be spending $100M for a hundred people, or $1M per person. That would be pure insanity .I wonder if the fools spending so much money have even made an effort to count the people using those bike lanes as transportation?
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Old 04-09-2024, 12:43 PM
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Even if there were a hundred, that would be spending $100M for a hundred people, or $1M per person. That would be pure insanity .I wonder if the fools spending so much money have even made an effort to count the people using those bike lanes as transportation?
All this nonsense is courtesy of the WEF influenced Canadian politicians. Every town or city has them.
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Old 04-09-2024, 01:45 PM
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I was recently down in Seattle. Their bike lane system is much more advanced, they have these lights that are red/green/yellow specifically for the bike lane. I’m assuming that allows them to do different things for intersection control. I totally agree with building out the network first before getting into these smaller details .
Seattle, another of those US crap holes that has bigger fish to fry than lights on bike lanes.
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Old 04-09-2024, 01:58 PM
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Ok I will bite… I will vote for those light poles only if we can hang the corrupted politicians and city councillors on those!
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Old 04-09-2024, 02:25 PM
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Ok I will bite… I will vote for those light poles only if we can hang the corrupted politicians and city councillors on those!
I'll second the motion!
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Old 04-09-2024, 02:50 PM
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Just when you think that the City administration cannot get any more out of touch with the needs of the city and the high taxes we pay they come up with another new goodie --- hitting it out of the park -- almost as good as Tookers flooding the streets and skating to work

Special street lights and coverings for bike lanes. This socialist administration has no end to how they will spend other peoples money.

Interesting that this gem was not in Sohi's response letter to the province requesting funding being restored to address priorities. This just shows how out of touch this administration council is. Get more money -- waste is on soccer bids, electric buses and now street lighting for bike lanes.

The province needs to say no more money deal with what you have and let the citizens vote these clowns out.

https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/colu...-on-bike-lanes
Both Edmonton and Calgary City Councils are filled with true believers; in climate change, they have to make every person feel good about themselves, in socialism. There is no end to how much money they are willing to spend on items like these.

Meanwhile, Calgary streets are falling apart, Calgary Transit is being run into the ground. I better stop there.
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Old 04-09-2024, 05:19 PM
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I wish AO had a "violent peas and carrots coming out of your nose puke" emoji...
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Sohi is too busy right now being involved in police work over a recent shooting.....well, murder suicide
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Old 04-09-2024, 05:49 PM
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Come on now, no need to exaggerate out of the million people in Edmonton, there might be 100 people using those lanes for year round transportation.

Bike lanes in Edmonton winters are frequented the most by snow clearing equipment and zombies pushing shopping carts. Covering bike lanes is an amazing idea. I guess that full usage of our multi-billion dollar LRT system for the zombies to set up shop in isn't enough, we might as well go full-on West-Coast and enable the homeless addicts some more. Why try to help them on a road to sobriety, better mental health and shelter when you can "house" them on the streets where they are ripe for the loser criminal drug dealers' pickings? You go City Council, what a bunch of lowlife tax dollar sucking scumbags.

I really like KGB's idea, not only for the corrupt politicians but also for the prolific re-offending scumbag criminals in Edmonton. We might as well go full on medieval like Vlad the Impaler.

(I guess maybe I shouldn't have gone for a drive downtown yesterday)
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Old 04-09-2024, 06:01 PM
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Redmonton can deal with its own problems it creates. I feel bad for the minority of non woke people that live there. There’s better places in Alberta to live if you can move.
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Covered bike lanes would definitely make for convenient public restrooms, would shelter many of the homeless, and frankly, seem like a great place to get mugged.
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The issues of efficient use of the budget and compliance of expenditures with the expectations of citizens are really important.
I think that's the general consensus, and that spending millions on bike lanes when 100 people use them in the winter, spending $60M on buses that don't work, $600k for stacked ball bearings on Whitemud, etc. is definitely not an efficient use of the budget and compliance of expenditures with the expectations of citizens.
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The issues of efficient use of the budget and compliance of expenditures with the expectations of citizens are really important.
Different projects may have different goals and benefits for different groups of people.
For example, street lighting for bicycle lanes and dedicated street lights can promote the safety of cyclists and pedestrians, which is important for creating sustainable and safe urban environments. It can also help reduce the threat of crime and improve the overall quality of life for city residents.
How about if you want travel on streets. Buy a bike license $50.00/ year. Comes with a bicycle lights (front/rear), and a orange/yellow riding bib. Save millions for taxpayers dollars, and $50.00 can cover the lights. Registration. Seems easy to do.
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Old 04-16-2024, 01:48 PM
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How about if you want travel on streets. Buy a bike license $50.00/ year. Comes with a bicycle lights (front/rear), and a orange/yellow riding bib. Save millions for taxpayers dollars, and $50.00 can cover the lights. Registration. Seems easy to do.
If they did this, and everyone participated they'd likely add 5,000.00 to the coffers. Leave it the way it is now, and forget about enhancing, expanding etc. It only serves a purpose for .00000001 percent of the population.

They could also sell Northlands for 1.00 the buyer needs to pay the taxes for the balance of the year and every year there after. The buyer must start to repurpose the facility or property with in one year of purchase. The city must approve any reasonable plan for the site.

Council is to full of themselves to do either of these.

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Old 04-16-2024, 02:28 PM
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Just another drop in the bucket, or should I say dump in the outhouse for the City of Champions. Let's not forget the $24 million spent on building the wondrous funicular. With annual operational expenses and repairs anywhere between $350k and $700k, that's a substantial chunk of change for something that's amounted to nothing more than a travelling outhouse.

I'd like to have the opportunity to take over our glorious civic leaders' personal finances, and spend "their" money on ludicrous things that serve no real purpose. Most of their financial decisions are akin to using wax paper for toilet paper, it accomplishes nothing more than wasting money and making a mess of things.
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