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09-22-2020, 10:37 PM
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Grizzly kills bull elk
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09-22-2020, 11:09 PM
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That's something else and quite the footage...Looks like he bull took in a big breath of water during the skirmish? He was quite mobile and then that was it.
Once a bear senses they're gaining ground, they're relentless.
Thank you for sharing
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09-23-2020, 12:01 AM
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^ Yeah, it looks like he actually drowned him.
And what a nice bull too. That bear should definitely make a post in the elk tactics thread. The guy is a pro.
Thanks for the post, moose.
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09-23-2020, 07:11 AM
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And they say I'm cruel when I shoot them and they die is seconds....
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09-23-2020, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fishnguy
^ Yeah, it looks like he actually drowned him.
And what a nice bull too. That bear should definitely make a post in the elk tactics thread. The guy is a pro.
Thanks for the post, moose.
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Saw that, the bull apparently had a broken leg, not unusual that it's the rut and severe injuries happen. He was just the clean up crew.
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09-23-2020, 07:39 AM
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looks like that elk was tired and injured. no way a bull just stands there and lets the bear drown him.
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09-23-2020, 08:15 AM
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Ya that elk should of outdistanced the bear in that river. Was moving slow.
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09-23-2020, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams
Saw that, the bull apparently had a broken leg, not unusual that it's the rut and severe injuries happen. He was just the clean up crew.
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Can see the broken leg at the 4 second mark.
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09-23-2020, 08:43 AM
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Elk was totally exhausted, same reason that wolves can kill elk and moose, they pull them down when they are played out.
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09-23-2020, 08:58 AM
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And they say I'm cruel when I shoot them and they die is seconds....
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*GASP*
YOU MONSTER!
But yeah, totally agree. I suppose that this instance is a fairly quick kill; some takedowns can take a looooooong time before the victim loses consciousness, often with the predator(s) feeding before the prey is completely dead.
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09-23-2020, 09:20 AM
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Can see the broken leg at the 4 second mark.
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Yes, back left leg, you can see it at 3:02 and a few more times after that as it`s rolled over a few times
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09-23-2020, 10:00 AM
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Old mother nature at her finest! Something we don't get to see everyday.
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09-23-2020, 11:27 AM
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Son of a gun, indeed a fiddled back leg. I didn't see that as the bull moved from the bank, to the river in the next segment.
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09-23-2020, 11:31 AM
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Son of a gun, indeed a fiddled back leg. I didn't see that as the bull moved from the bank, to the river in the next segment.
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I won't lie. I only noticed because it was mentioned in the comments. lol
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09-23-2020, 11:43 AM
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I won't lie. I only noticed because it was mentioned in the comments. lol
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Haha, no worries. I was wondering how the devil you picked that up.
Indeed, Mother Nature takes nor prisoners. Wild footage
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09-23-2020, 11:58 AM
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Well I guess one thing though is that the pain from it all stopped when the Elk went to sleep from the drowning. Quite the footage.
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09-23-2020, 12:04 PM
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Incredible footage.
As many have said, the bear keyed in on the elk after noticing the broken leg, and was absolutely relentless.
I was surprised to see the elk just go limp during the tussle, and think that he just lost consciousness rather than died in that moment. I just didn’t see any obvious bite that looked severe enough to kill him outright.
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09-23-2020, 12:36 PM
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I was surprised to see the elk just go limp during the tussle, and think that he just lost consciousness rather than died in that moment. I just didn’t see any obvious bite that looked severe enough to kill him outright.
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I agree with Howard Hutchinson- it is very likely that he inhaled water during the struggle. In an already weakened condition, that would have been all that it took.
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09-23-2020, 12:59 PM
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I'm thinking the relentless bites to the spine might have also had something to do with immobilizing the Elk more. Being warn down and easily rolled and head held under. Gulp gulp gone
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09-23-2020, 01:34 PM
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I was in Yellowstone about 10 years ago and fortunate enough to see a few hours worth of a wolf take down a bison thar was over the course of a couple of days, every time the bison lay down the wolf would have a nip at it and gradually weaken it.
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09-23-2020, 01:52 PM
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09-23-2020, 07:29 PM
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The horror !! ELM
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09-23-2020, 07:56 PM
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I was in Yellowstone about 10 years ago and fortunate enough to see a few hours worth of a wolf take down a bison thar was over the course of a couple of days, every time the bison lay down the wolf would have a nip at it and gradually weaken it.
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Friend witnessed something similar at the Ya Ha Tinda once. Only, a Grizzly killed the elk, then a pack of wolves ran him off.
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09-23-2020, 07:57 PM
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Mother nature for sure. So much of this happens in places none of us ever see.
Definently thought the bull was slow moving from the start. Wouldn't think a grizzly could catch a healthy one.
Thought maybe though that the elk was moving as fast as it could and the bear was just a better swimmer but then elk was only waste deep in the water. Probably could have ran through the river if it was healthy.
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09-24-2020, 08:48 AM
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Seen a panicked spike bull this past weekend fast trotting into the main yard at the ranch on YYC's city limits.
When the horses roared to the fenceline to check him out, he took off back west at a fast lope (clearing 6 fences)- easy to understand how they might dislocate or snap a leg at warp speeds like that.
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09-24-2020, 11:55 AM
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I had seen that the Elk's back right leg was broken, you can see it in the still photo, and in the video when he was trying to run in the water. That's why the bear attacked him
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09-24-2020, 12:56 PM
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I know this was elsewhere, but I can't help but wonder when a grizzly season will return to Alberta?
Oops, was that out loud?
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09-24-2020, 01:05 PM
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The bear put his weight on the broken leg side and out of the reach of the antlers. Amazing. Almost calculated.
It doesn’t take much to tip nature’s scale.
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09-24-2020, 04:46 PM
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Bear
Looked to me like the bear was close to drowning from exhaustion too at one point.
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09-25-2020, 01:29 AM
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Incredible footage. The power of that bear to haul a big bull out of the middle of the river is amazing.
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