The perils of impatience.

[Pathfinder76]

I've successfully cheated the system for almost 25 years. I yawn widely at conservative reloaders. I never start at beginning loads. I pride myself on experience. I interpret the data I've used after working up loads for dozens and dozens of rifles for loading for new ones. I pour over five loading manuals at once. All trying to save time and components. Well this 30-06 just about beat me.

On the bright side it looks like it wants to shoot. :-)

[Deer Hunter]

My rem 700 xcr2 likes 60.5 h4350 150 ttsx, 215gm at 3.34oal. But velocity is only 3020 from a 24" barrel. Way behind yours
Good shooting.

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

My rem 700 xcr2 likes 60.5 h4350 150 ttsx, 215gm at 3.34oal. But velocity is only 3020 from a 24" barrel. Way behind yours
Good shooting.

That is what I was expecting. Lol!

[Deer Hunter]

What is the rifle?

[Pathfinder76]

A LH Forbes 24b.

[Deer Hunter]

Originally Posted by chuck

A LH Forbes 24b.

Nice rifle, how did you get the bolt open?

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

Nice rifle, how did you get the bolt open?

It was a little tight but I coaxed it open.

[Deer Hunter]

Good news, beating on that mini bolt handle would scare me.

[Pathfinder76]

The extractor works.

[Deer Hunter]

What did the brass look like? Blown primer? Are those three shots? Or did you have enough of this load at 2?

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

What did the brass look like? Blown primer? Are those three shots? Or did you have enough of this load at 2?

Three. No, no blown primers. Cases are at least reloadable one more time. It was hot but not obscenely so. But with the first two doing what they did I had to shoot a third. :-)

[Deer Hunter]

Originally Posted by chuck

Three. No, no blown primers. Cases are at least reloadable one more time. It was hot but not obscenely so. But with the first two doing what they did I had to shoot a third. :-)

I would have expected full bolt seize up, a one shot that's enough test. I creep over a max load chasing velocities and I know it!
You pushed over 100 fps... crazy but impressive nonetheless.

[Dean2]

Chuck

I see you finally broke down and got a NULA. Good for you.

I think you will find the Forbes rifles are generally faster than other rifles you load for. mine all have been. I can get a 150 Horn Spire Point up to 3100 FPS in my 308 with a 21" barrel and it doesn't show any signs of over pressure. No expanded rim, web, flat primers, loose pockets or sticky bolts. I can get seven or eight loads to a WW case and I am not going over published book max.

My regular load is 47 grains of IMR 4895 in WW brass and CCI mag primers and a 130 grain TSX BT. They are doing 3150 feet per second and I am still 4 grains below published max of 51 grains, heck I am only one grain above published min.

But I agree, man do they shoot.

[Pathfinder76]

Dean, unfortunately this is not a NULA, but a production Forbes. However, I'm quite pleased with it. :-)

But don't tell the BR crowd that the rifle is only 6lbs 5ozs scoped and the scope is a fixed 6. Lol.

[Pathfinder76]

Or that the rings aren't lapped! Laughing!

[BigJon]

I've ran 150 grain .30/06 loads into that velocity realm before with h4350. Part of it was just some testing b/c I always sort of thought that you can't stuff enough h4350 under a 150 grain bullet to hit "too high" of pressure. Bolt opened just fine, primer pockets were still firm enough and I finally got rid of that batch of R-P brass with 12 loadings on it.

Regardless I backed down to 3030 fps for that particular load!

Most .30/06 data out there is geared to the biggest POS in circulation and can often be surpassed without issue.

Looks as though you have yourself a keeper .30/06, enjoy.

[Bushrat]

Originally Posted by chuck

Dean, unfortunately this is not a NULA, but a production Forbes. However, I'm quite pleased with it. :-)

But don't tell the BR crowd that the rifle is only 6lbs 5ozs scoped and the scope is a fixed 6. Lol.

Nice shooting, it will easily meet the weight requirements for a BR match! Let us know how well you do with it at the next match

[duceman]

Originally Posted by chuck

Or that the rings aren't lapped! Laughing!

i managed to mount a new scope, rail, rings today and didn't use grinding compound either; weird.
took a total of ten click between windage and elevation after boresighting to be optically zeroed from mechanical zero setting.

[bobinthesky]

Originally Posted by duceman

i managed to mount a new scope, rail, rings today and didn't use grinding compound either; weird.
took a total of ten click between windage and elevation after boresighting to be optically zeroed from mechanical zero setting.

Oh yeah, I changed scopes on a 300 wby yesterday, lapped the rings and shot it today, after the first shot one crank low and one crank right got it a couple inches high at 100 yards with the second shot so lapping does work.... has too... right?

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by bobinthesky

Oh yeah, I changed scopes on a 300 wby yesterday, lapped the rings and shot it today, after the first shot one crank low and one crank right got it a couple inches high at 100 yards with the second shot so lapping does work.... has too... right?

Hmmm. I changed scopes on 338 rum, talley rings and factory nosler 250 grainers. 6" left at 200 yards but just right on the vertical. Seems unlapped works well. Lapping/ no lapping who can say?

[bobinthesky]

Dang... to lap or not to lap?



Seriously though, I'm new to the lapping thing. Never saw a need for it until the AO experts said it had to be done!

[Norwest Alta]

Originally Posted by bobinthesky

Dang... to lap or not to lap?



Seriously though, I'm new to the lapping thing. Never saw a need for it until the AO experts said it had to be done!

I hear ya. Never heard of it either. Never done it either. Guns shoot fine to me. Must be for tasco optics maybe?

[bobinthesky]

Too funny!

[wolf]

Hi Chuck, thank you for sharing! could you please clarify the meaning of 3.320, is it COL? if it is, I presume it is from ogive?

Many thanks

[Pathfinder76]

Originally Posted by wolf

Hi Chuck, thank you for sharing! could you please clarify the meaning of 3.320, is it COL? if it is, I presume it is from ogive?

Many thanks

It is COL which is not measured from to ogive

[wolf]

got you, thank you for the clarification!

[260 Rem]

A couple of "hot load" experiences I have had.... one being that a well built action\chamber combination may not show pressure signs until things get overly hot, and second...that some bullets seem to perform best within a given range of velocity. I recall a hot load combination that shot consistent 1\2 MOA that would not group worth a darn when I slowed it down.

[BigJon]

Originally Posted by 260 Rem

A couple of "hot load" experiences I have had.... one being that a well built action\chamber combination may not show pressure signs until things get overly hot, and second...that some bullets seem to perform best within a given range of velocity. I recall a hot load combination that shot consistent 1\2 MOA that would not group worth a darn when I slowed it down.

Typically, I find great accuracy/consistent velocity at the upper end of charge weights/pressures.

[JBE]

Originally Posted by BigJon

Typically, I find great accuracy/consistent velocity at the upper end of charge weights/pressures.

I just started reloading this year and this is what I am experiencing also. I can't seem to get anything to group decent until I am near maximum.

[Pathfinder76]

Powder burns most consistently at pressure