View Poll Results: Would you be willing to sign a petition to adopt a slot size limit on Alberta gamefish
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adopt a slot limit
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keep the big fish (no change)
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Would you sign a petition to SRD to adopt this change?
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dont care
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11-18-2011, 12:15 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeGuy
I can recall fishing on the NW coast with several hundred $$ worth of licenses and tags and realizing that I still wasn't legal.
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BC License fee for resident $36, non-resident $55
Steelhead tag : $25, $30
Salmon Tag: $10, $20
Sturgeon Tag $8, $15
Canadian Tidal for resident $21
Salmon Tag, $6
Now I'm no mathmatican but you must of been buying multiple licenses and tags to be at several hundred, maybe that's why you weren't legal?
If license fees went directly to the resource in Alberta I would be happy paying $500 a year..... for me that would still be under $3 a day, its super cheap entertainment.
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11-18-2011, 12:17 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Originally Posted by parnavi
.I would like a survey page to be included in are fishing regs that we could tear out and mail back ( every year )with are opinions and suggestions off slot limits.increasing fees,c and r.barbless,and many more questions and suggestions, ask away and let us fisherman/woman answer some . give us the right to be part off the over all decision. just my opinion.....later
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That's a really solid idea
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11-18-2011, 01:20 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary, Ab
Posts: 2,835
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Originally Posted by GustavMahler
There are 11 vacancies to be filled right now and the number of licenses this year is approx 225,000,,, when vacancies can't be filled it becomes easier to negotiate a higher wage or benefit package.
And the random checking of fish size on your stringer is just the same as it is now, as it's just a few numbers between two numbers as opposed to making sure it's above 1 number on a tape measure.
And I don't target Walleye either,,, but I'd love to see a slot size for pike, they are in serious decline,,, and I'd love to see winter closures on some put & take trout lakes and then a slot or limit change but that argument will be saved for the thread that must not be named.
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11 vacancies. That just shows you the wages are not competitive enough with other peace officer jobs in the province.
Beeguy, I see what your saying and yes that does make sense. More officers wont mean people will stop because you are right, its about morals and ethics.
A bad apple will never ripen, it will just continue to rot.
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11-18-2011, 01:22 PM
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Banned
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: down by the river
Posts: 11,428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhad
BC License fee for resident $36, non-resident $55
Steelhead tag : $25, $30
Salmon Tag: $10, $20
Sturgeon Tag $8, $15
Canadian Tidal for resident $21
Salmon Tag, $6
Now I'm no mathmatican but you must of been buying multiple licenses and tags to be at several hundred, maybe that's why you weren't legal?
If license fees went directly to the resource in Alberta I would be happy paying $500 a year..... for me that would still be under $3 a day, its super cheap entertainment.
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As a non-resident:
annual license (freshwater) $55
steelhead $60
salmon $30
Class I $40/DAY
Class II $20/DAY
Tidal $21
Salmon $6
That's about $200 after tax
Plus $20 or $40 PER DAY for classified waters.
Several hundred bucks? yep
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11-18-2011, 01:24 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary, Ab
Posts: 2,835
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhad
BC License fee for resident $36, non-resident $55
Steelhead tag : $25, $30
Salmon Tag: $10, $20
Sturgeon Tag $8, $15
Canadian Tidal for resident $21
Salmon Tag, $6
Now I'm no mathmatican but you must of been buying multiple licenses and tags to be at several hundred, maybe that's why you weren't legal?
If license fees went directly to the resource in Alberta I would be happy paying $500 a year..... for me that would still be under $3 a day, its super cheap entertainment.
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500$ would be extreme, but I'd pay $50-100, that seems fair. I'd say I use the license so far this year about 30-35 times, hopefully 20-30 more this winter!
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11-18-2011, 01:25 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: down by the river
Posts: 11,428
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slivers86
11 vacancies. That just shows you the wages are not competitive enough with other peace officer jobs in the province.
Beeguy, I see what your saying and yes that does make sense. More officers wont mean people will stop because you are right, its about morals and ethics.
A bad apple will never ripen, it will just continue to rot.
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Not too mention that old habits die hard.
Just look to our Canadian Sportfishing guru's Henry and Italo.
Obviously, getting caught isn't enough of a deterrent for some.
I like slot limits, and I don't worry too much about poachers.
God bless,
Beeguy
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11-18-2011, 02:16 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeeGuy
As a non-resident:
annual license (freshwater) $55
steelhead $60
salmon $30
Class I $40/DAY
Class II $20/DAY
Tidal $21
Salmon $6
That's about $200 after tax
Plus $20 or $40 PER DAY for classified waters.
Several hundred bucks? yep
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fair enough I misunderstood when you stated you were fishing on the coast, so I didn't factor classified waters
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11-18-2011, 02:26 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: down by the river
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhad
fair enough I misunderstood when you stated you were fishing on the coast, so I didn't factor classified waters
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Hence my frustration,
camped out in the middle of nowhere, with several hundy in permits and an expired Class I ticket. Day 9 is a #$%^@
FML
Slot size limits have great potential but are not a solution in and of themselves.
Last edited by BeeGuy; 11-18-2011 at 02:35 PM.
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11-18-2011, 03:10 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: cowtown
Posts: 6,653
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Its fair and fine that you have a budget plan to hire more enforcement.
Now.............find the millions or get the millions allocated to the research and maintaining of the lake.
Finding monies for enforcement puts the cart before the horse. Data collection and research is very expensive
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11-18-2011, 06:39 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Originally Posted by slivers86
500$ would be extreme, but I'd pay $50-100, that seems fair. I'd say I use the license so far this year about 30-35 times, hopefully 20-30 more this winter!
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I wouldnt mind paying more for a license, but if Im paying 100 or 200 or more a year, Im not going to be releasing all nearly as many of my fish, they would be going into the grocery budget.
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11-18-2011, 06:43 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by parnavi
Our fishing resources here in are province need help.I would like a survey page to be included in are fishing regs that we could tear out and mail back ( every year )with are opinions and suggestions off slot limits.increasing fees,c and r.barbless,and many more questions and suggestions, ask away and let us fisherman/woman answer some . give us the right to be part off the over all decision. just my opinion.....later
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I also like that idea, even if it did nothing productive, at least it would give SRD an idea of what fishermen and women have to say, and be a cheap way for them to do some research. Put the same survey online on their site as well.
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Shove your masks and your vaccines
Non Compliance!!!!!!
"According to Trudeau, Im an extremist who needs to be dealt with"
#Trudeau must go
Wheres The Funds
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11-18-2011, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Southern Alberta
Posts: 7,350
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Originally Posted by chubbdarter
Its fair and fine that you have a budget plan to hire more enforcement.
Now.............find the millions or get the millions allocated to the research and maintaining of the lake.
Finding monies for enforcement puts the cart before the horse. Data collection and research is very expensive
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I agree once again
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11-18-2011, 06:54 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: cowtown
Posts: 6,653
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Originally Posted by slivers86
500$ would be extreme, but I'd pay $50-100, that seems fair. I'd say I use the license so far this year about 30-35 times, hopefully 20-30 more this winter!
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Can fore see 2 things happening
1- general licence sales falling drastically
2- the fee would give birth to more poachers
Many people who fish 1-2 times a year, would just quit. Yes there is 20 thousand dedicated fisherman on this site who will accept the doubling or tripling of fees. I believe this is a small group compared to the 1-2 day fisherman who make up the vast majority of the total revenue.
If the Res licence was 100 dollars the general public would push to have non Res licences be 200 dollars. Which in principle isnt un fair......but the average tourist wont be buying a licence to soak a worm for 1 day on their 1 week vacation. I believe alot of licences from this portion of fisherman make a significant dollar value to over all combined revenue. I also believe this group has little or no effect on our fish populations.
Do I agree its too cheap...yes. But the general public doesnt believe that.
Last edited by chubbdarter; 11-18-2011 at 07:15 PM.
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11-18-2011, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: cowtown
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Originally Posted by WayneChristie
I also like that idea, even if it did nothing productive, at least it would give SRD an idea of what fishermen and women have to say, and be a cheap way for them to do some research. Put the same survey online on their site as well.
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Once again great idea....BUT...we have a Fish and Fur system that cant afford to do field research or field enforcement right now. Yes angler input is important but input from the field must be backed or explained with science. I dont want my Bio reading angler surveys over doing his research.
A angler survey will present the problem
A Bio's research will present the cure.
Sadly I think the survey would have to be compiled by a non SRD group..eg TU, WU or fish and game club. This may cure alot of transperancy issues also, as the public would be advised at the same time SRD would get the survey info.
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11-18-2011, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 12,078
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Walleye people like to eat them.
Trout people like to release them.
Which fish is easier to manage?
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11-18-2011, 07:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,268
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Originally Posted by greylynx
Walleye people like to eat them.
Trout people like to release them.
Which fish is easier to manage?
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lol..... so true, so true.
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11-18-2011, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Copperhead Road, Morinville
Posts: 19,290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chubbdarter
Can fore see 2 things happening
1- general licence sales falling drastically
2- the fee would give birth to more poachers
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You bet, and I agree with your explanation of the 2 points above! I'll add one more:
3. Only the financially well off would be able to afford to fish.
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11-19-2011, 01:08 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Lethbridge, Alberta
Posts: 4,063
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greylynx
Walleye people like to eat them.
Trout people like to release them.
Which fish is easier to manage?
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I keep way more trout then I do walleyes.
I know that trout are stocked yearly in all these pothole lakes and the walleyes won't be stocked due to self sustaining spawning and most of the funding is focused on trout.
I also don't eat fish so anything I keep is given to family and friends who like fish but aren't healthy enough to go fishing themselves or just don't enjoy it at all.
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