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Old 03-21-2018, 08:16 PM
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The trial started Tuesday.

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Old 03-21-2018, 08:20 PM
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Sad part is that after his trial APOS will probably let him keep his outfitters licence and get right back to guiding.
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Old 03-21-2018, 10:01 PM
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So the defence is questioning why the season dates are not printed on the licence? As if that is some kind of defence? Morons.
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Old 03-21-2018, 10:04 PM
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So just wondering if that is a prerequisite to being the next APOS president?
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Old 03-21-2018, 10:23 PM
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So the defence is questioning why the season dates are not printed on the licence? As if that is some kind of defence? Morons.
The lawyer Richard Fritze was advertising as being the defender of firearms owners, apparently, he is also the defender of poachers and crooked outfitters.

As for the outfitter, he should know the season dates. If he doesn't, he isn't much of an outfitter.
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:41 AM
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The lawyer Richard Fritze was advertising as being the defender of firearms owners, apparently, he is also the defender of poachers and crooked outfitters.

As for the outfitter, he should know the season dates. If he doesn't, he isn't much of an outfitter.
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Alberta PROFESSIONAL Outfitters Society

The guy missed that word

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Old 03-22-2018, 09:47 AM
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So the defence is questioning why the season dates are not printed on the licence? As if that is some kind of defence? Morons.
Fritze also advertises himself as the go to firearms lawyer. One may want to think about his choice of clients.
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:51 AM
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So just wondering if that is a prerequisite to being the next APOS president?
More than likely....
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:53 AM
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A Cardston outfitter is facing more than 30 charges, mostly under the Wildlife Act and in relation to out-of-season-hunting allegations.

30 charges ??? I would love to see the list.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:20 AM
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So the defence is questioning why the season dates are not printed on the licence? As if that is some kind of defence? Morons.
well if you have 40 tags and nothing is printed on them it would in theory be simple to make a mistake and grab the wrong one.

so they are probably asking for leniency.

but it looks like we have already found him guilty. i wonder why they are even having a trial?
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:42 AM
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well if you have 40 tags and nothing is printed on them it would in theory be simple to make a mistake and grab the wrong one.

so they are probably asking for leniency.

but it looks like we have already found him guilty. i wonder why they are even having a trial?
30 charges??
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well if you have 40 tags and nothing is printed on them it would in theory be simple to make a mistake and grab the wrong one.

so they are probably asking for leniency.

but it looks like we have already found him guilty. i wonder why they are even having a trial?
I was only making a comment on the defense statement - that it was moronic. The season dates are clearly outlined in the regs and the tags are clearly marked with their application. If a person cannot put those together ..... I think if that is all the defense has it will be a short trial and he will be found guilty. If they actually have something that is a defense then maybe he will be not guilty.
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30 charges??
All the result of honest mistakes.
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:36 AM
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well if you have 40 tags and nothing is printed on them it would in theory be simple to make a mistake and grab the wrong one.

so they are probably asking for leniency.

but it looks like we have already found him guilty. i wonder why they are even having a trial?
He is suppose to be a PROFESSIONAL outfitter. Act like a professional. None of this, "well it could of been.... " speculation.
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:48 AM
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So the defence is questioning why the season dates are not printed on the licence? As if that is some kind of defence? Morons.
Always wondered why the gov't got away from putting all the info on the actual tags. Glad to see the lawyers using that now to defend this "professional" guide/hunter. A person in his position is expected to know at all times what seasons are open/closed at any given time. Be interesting to see APOS's stance on this one........
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:51 PM
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Richard the lawyer's usual tactic is postpone trial time and again hoping witnesses do not show, he tried that with us as well defending a cougar outfitter poaching on private land ... great use of government time. Richard lost that case as well, outfitter fined $6,000.00 for poaching on private land without permission.
I wouldn't want him defending a lawful firearms owner that's for sure!
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Old 03-22-2018, 01:15 PM
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Default Alberta POS .....very appropriate.

We have been deriding Apos on this forum since its inception.
We know the NDP did not lend any initiatives or good ideas to
the hunting,fishing scene . They just picked up the Tories sad tired
Lack of interest and carried on ...one of their absolute travesties
APOS , every time it shows up on here , you just want to puke !
That ***** likely to become Pres....the current Pres is a person known
to all outdoor law enforcement in Alberta and not on a social basis .
Send a letter to Shannon , she loves to hear from the people .
That's you in case your wondering !
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Old 03-22-2018, 01:56 PM
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Fritze also advertises himself as the go to firearms lawyer. One may want to think about his choice of clients.
I don't understand your comments.

A criminal defence lawyer defends people who " have been charged" with a criminal offence. We shouldnt use him because he defends people ?
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