New hunting cartridge out- 350 Legend

[gloszz]

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/...end-cartridge/


What do y'all think of this cartridge? Seems fairly good looking at the ballistics. Similar to a 30-30. I wonder if it will be available in Canada. In the USA a pack of 20 is about $10. And the only rifle chambered for it is obviously Winchester.

[bitterrootfly]

Don’t often hear fairly good ballistics and 30-30 in the same sentence.

[pikergolf]

Looks ideal for a first rifle for a youngster. Close range and not much recoil.

[gloszz]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Looks ideal for a first rifle for a youngster. Close range and not much recoil.

They claim it's less recoil than a .243 and more penetration than a .223 and 30-30.

[saskbooknut]

Penetration depends on bullet construction.
Recoil is proportional to energy.
Lot of advertising BS here.

[bitterrootfly]

Originally Posted by saskbooknut

Penetration depends on bullet construction.
Recoil is proportional to energy.
Lot of advertising BS here.

My thoughts too, I don’t see it being any better at anything here in Alberta than the .243 win or .30-30, for states with straight wall cartridge limitations I think it’s a great idea... not here... not now, especially when other low recoil options like the 6.5 Grendel on the scene.

[YYC338]

Why, Where's the niche?
Straight walled .35 caliber, Big whoop.

[saskbooknut]

Has potential as a lever gun cartridge, but others have been here before.
Only a little bit interesting in straight wall cartridge states, and some really old cartridges are better.
Will find a place in AR 15 platform, but not for me.

[Redneck 7]

Thanks for sharing. It’s pretty interesting but I wouldn’t mind this cartridge in a lever action rifle at all. I’m not a fan of leavers but I could see myself buying one of these for throwing in the truck or taking out and plinking. I’m curious if they will only be about action.

[marky_mark]

Probably an alternative for hog hunting in the south
Won’t make much of an impact up here I don’t think
Will take 2 years to see any ammo on the shelves too

[fish_e_o]

I'm going to build one

[6.5 shooter]

Rebated rim not a big fan...so I am

[fordtruckin]

I like the idea for a lever gun but I’ll stick with my .35 rem. If I need a straightaway rifle cartridge it’s either a .44 mag or 45/70 depending on the prey. It’s interesting they offer a suppressed round. That will be a hit with hog hunters and deer hunters where permitted.

[Redneck 7]

Originally Posted by fordtruckin

I like the idea for a lever gun but I’ll stick with my .35 rem. If I need a straightaway rifle cartridge it’s either a .44 mag or 45/70 depending on the prey. It’s interesting they offer a suppressed round. That will be a hit with hog hunters and deer hunters where permitted.

Honestly it only makes sense as a gun and ammo manufacturer. You can only design so many different cartridges. Why not target different hunting laws in certain states. Only real way for room to grow and market. That’s just how I’m looking at this new cartridge.

[243plus]

Originally Posted by saskbooknut

Penetration depends on bullet construction.
Recoil is proportional to energy.
Lot of advertising BS here.

Originally Posted by YYC338

Why, Where's the niche?
Straight walled .35 caliber, Big whoop.

Exactly my first thoughts when I saw this. I just don't see the reason or niche, except for "new and improved get 'er now" sham wow stuff.

YMMV

[waldedw]

another flash in the pan, bright and shinny as a falling star and probably gone just as fast like many other new and improved cartridges, oh well it gives us something to talk about

[ward]

Why would shooters and hunters discourage manufacturers from releasing new products ? Companies are supposed to develope and release new products and the market decides which are successful. Some make it, some don’t. But why proclaim it a failure because you don’t like it ?

I am waiting for the fist poster that uses the classic,” that is the answer to a question no one asked”.

[58thecat]

Marlin should chamber that cartridge.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by Redneck 7

Honestly it only makes sense as a gun and ammo manufacturer. You can only design so many different cartridges. Why not target different hunting laws in certain states. Only real way for room to grow and market. That’s just how I’m looking at this new cartridge.

And hope it gets a following like that creedmore cartridge then your off to the bank

[saskbooknut]

AR15 wildcatters already were here.
No one else asked.
Marketing ploy with little enduring value, unlike 6.5 Creedmoor, which found its niche.

[Vacation]

My brother has a Winchester 351. Old saddle gun. I wonder how it would compare. That cartridge is Not around anymore so...not sure how great the 350 would be. Interesting tho.

[Unregistered user]

Some jurisdictions in the US only allow straight walled cartridges for hunting so this fills the gap between pistol rounds and the 45-70 class.

[saskbooknut]

There was no real gap with existing 38/55 and various 40 calibre cartridges, but any small difference to sell new guns.

[Unregistered user]

And why not? The more the merrier.

[Arctic]

No better than the .357 Maximum which is rimmed.

[Kurt505]

Considerably less exciting than vanilla ice cream.

[YYC338]

Originally Posted by Kurt505

Considerably less exciting than vanilla ice cream.

Exactly, lots of straight wall options out there already and they come in classic well made Marlins and Winchesters to boot.

Simply a ploy to sell more merchandise. The more the merrier? Just ask Winchester how well their WSM & WSSM series went over after 5 or 10 years.

The 300WSM is the only one of the bunch that had any real success.

[Dean2]

This will have the same life span as a house fly. 35 caliber 2000 fps with a 200 grain bullet. Talk about anemic. A 30-30 or 38-55 both can reach higher velocities and the 38-55 can do it with a heavier bullet. The 375 Winchester didn't live long because it wasn't a material improvement on the 38-55 and this is no improvement on the 35 Remington. They would have been a lot better off coming out with a straight wall 338 or a rimless 444 or 45-70 if they wanted to appeal to the guys that want to shoot deer in States that only allow straight walled cartridges.

Here is a link to a better article on the new round. I get where they are coming from and maybe the U.S. straight wall - deer hunter market is big enough to warrant this but I really doubt it.

https://www.range365.com/winchester-...d-birth-legend

[Unregistered user]

With spring just around the corner and it being such a mild winter so far, it could be time to start a 350 Legend bear defense thread.

[Puma]

Didn't Winchester try something like this with their .375 Winchester ?

That didn't last long either.

Think I will take a pass on this one.