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Old 12-10-2023, 06:47 PM
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Having trapped and processed winter coyote fur for 50 years ...now I just do predator control and "leave them where they fall", seems wasteful and sad.
There is no incentive to process the fur at current prices.

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Old 12-10-2023, 06:50 PM
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"leave them where they fall"

Kill 'em all.
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Yup given they are worthless it's just a matter of thinning them out, I have switched back to shooting hollow points this year, it tears them up bad but I'm sure the magpies and ravens enjoy the easy start to the free meal
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Same here guys ,leave em where they lay ..Called this one for my daughter,her first and she wanted to have it tanned so likely, the only one we will skin this year

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Old 12-11-2023, 09:48 AM
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Same here guys ,leave em where they lay ..Called this one for my daughter,her first and she wanted to have it tanned so likely, the only one we will skin this year

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That's a nice pale fur coyote - color is more important then size !
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Old 12-11-2023, 10:01 AM
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Breaks my heart to waste the fur, but yeah - those song dogs won't shoot themselves.

Someday I'll have a reasonable setup for skinning at home. Have lots of rearranging to do first, though.
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Same here guys ,leave em where they lay ..Called this one for my daughter,her first and she wanted to have it tanned so likely, the only one we will skin this year
Nice setup she has there! What caliber is that?
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Old 12-11-2023, 10:20 AM
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Good job on the dog's, my question is what is all that white stuff in the photos?
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Old 12-11-2023, 10:49 AM
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Very sad when Canada Goose wanted to look good to PETA and now using recycled fur for their $1700 plus high end parkas. We hunters and trappers sold ~5 million processed coyotes per year in Alberta at over $100 a pelt. Now coyotes are eating ranchers calves in spring.
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Old 12-11-2023, 03:42 PM
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I’m still putting up pelts. I don’t do high volume, only as many as my stupid job allows me to get out. Yeah, only the nicest furs get a ride, but all my stuff sold last march so I guess only time will tell this year. Auctions can be funny sometimes.
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Old 12-11-2023, 04:45 PM
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Iced a feral cat this morning. Does that count ?

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Old 12-11-2023, 05:04 PM
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We hunters and trappers sold ~5 million processed coyotes per year in Alberta at over $100 a pelt.
Do you have a link where you found those numbers?
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Old 12-11-2023, 06:44 PM
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^ I would think the population of coyotes in Alberta is low hundreds of thousands. If I felt “adventurous”, I’d say half a mil and probably be over estimating significantly. Just my guess though.
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Old 12-11-2023, 06:45 PM
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I'm not driving around looking for coyotes, not doing any feed stations or any snaring. Local sheep farmers are loosing sheep to coyotes and I've been contacted to help. I'm only interested in "calling" and "shooting" for recreational reasons and to help out the farmer.
These sheep are mature large animals and would be a handful for one coyote so I'm guessing there must be 3-6 coyotes in pack to take down one sheep.
Glad to take down these marauders and not under estimate their tenacity.
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Old 12-11-2023, 06:54 PM
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The coyote population will continue to grow over the next 2-3 years. I wonder if mange will come back with the over population like it did 10 years ago.

The farmers have all contacted wildlife officers, local government (county) for help....with no interest in helping...just worthless advice.
Feel sorry for the deer
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Old 12-12-2023, 12:42 PM
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Sorry guys in my older age I was thinking about coyote $dollar sales in Alberta that were close to $5 million per year, when prices were strong. Our typical yearly production from traplines was around 30 to 50,000/year. Typical NAFA sale was upto 80 to 100,000 pelts offered with FHA sales around 40,000 pelts offered. Both auction houses usually had 2 auction sales per year.
Hope this helps clarify the previous strong coyote pelt market in Alberta/Canada when some Top Lot heavies would go for upto $500.

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Nice setup she has there! What caliber is that?
Thanx , she used my Tikka 22 250 LH..

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Old 12-13-2023, 06:15 AM
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I used to walk back in for miles and drag out 2_3 coyotes.
Now, I leave them where they fell.
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Old 12-13-2023, 08:40 AM
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Thanx , she used my Tikka 22 250 LH..
Oh nice! I almost bought one of those as a coyote rig early this year. Unfortunately the money was needed elsewhere... Which is OK too.
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Old 12-13-2023, 09:07 PM
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Same here guys ,leave em where they lay ..Called this one for my daughter,her first and she wanted to have it tanned so likely, the only one we will skin this year

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Pretty work, congrats on the success and spending time with your daughter.
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Old 12-13-2023, 09:11 PM
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Having trapped and processed winter coyote fur for 50 years ...now I just do predator control and "leave them where they fall", seems wasteful and sad.
There is no incentive to process the fur at current prices.

Sucks we can't use them, but still fun & needed excursion. Thanks!
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Same here guys ,leave em where they lay ..Called this one for my daughter,her first and she wanted to have it tanned so likely, the only one we will skin this year

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Now that's a fine way to spend a winter day. Have the 22 250 in a Finnlight, works so well. Thanks for the pic!
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Old 12-14-2023, 06:09 AM
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Pretty work, congrats on the success and spending time with your daughter.
Thanx , I have 3 daughters ,all are married and still enjoy hunting and the outdoors . This daughter was only one of the 3 that hadn't taken a coyote ..She is now hooked for life and is planning a " sister hunt " calling coyotes . I'm going along as caller and hopefully camera man ,stayed tuned for pics I hope .

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Old 12-14-2023, 06:41 AM
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Thanx , I have 3 daughters ,all are married and still enjoy hunting and the outdoors . This daughter was only one of the 3 that hadn't taken a coyote ..She is now hooked for life and is planning a " sister hunt " calling coyotes . I'm going along as caller and hopefully camera man ,stayed tuned for pics I hope .

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Liking your photos ...keep'em coming
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Old 12-14-2023, 07:17 AM
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Great thread. I would love to see that video!
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The birds are eating good!
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