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Old 07-13-2009, 03:07 PM
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Default Spoons vs Rapalas for pike

I am a die hard Spoon fan. While fishing I have always found that I have caught more pike on spoons vs rapalas. This could be because as soon as I throw on a Rapala and I don't get any bites off the bat I want to throw the spoon back on. My question is, will larger Pike prefer Rapalas to spoons? Do they 'wise' up to what bait should look like? I would love to find out that my large spoons have just as much catch rate success as a larger Rapala. I think it's probably one of those things that every fisherman has there own theories on, but I would love some feed back.


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Old 07-13-2009, 03:15 PM
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Different lures for different situations. Hard to tell. I don't think one is going to catch more bigger ones than another, just the way you fish them, depth, location and color choice might matter on either one at any particular time. I'm a firm believer of bigger lure = bigger fish. My 2 cents.
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:19 PM
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caught maybe 3 fish in my life with spoons.

Rapala is all i use, well i should say "crank bait" as general instead.

I also find it easier to troll with crank bait than a spoon as depth are pre-determined by the crank bait.

But lately i'm having great success with soft bait (eg. Storm wildeyes) as well.
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:26 PM
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Kind of on the fence with this one, however I can say it hurts alot more (pocketbook) when I lose a crankbait. But I must agree laetly I've more success with the soft baits I might just be cheap?!
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:28 PM
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Timc, you're the first person I heard they catch anything on the storm wildeyes. They look good, never had any luck with them and have lots of friends that say the same.
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:40 PM
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Timc, you're the first person I heard they catch anything on the storm wildeyes. They look good, never had any luck with them and have lots of friends that say the same.
I fish the storm wildeye really slow. so slow that it will take more than a minute to retreive it from a cast.

I watched the lure around the boat and it was the best speed to produce the best motion.

Catch ratio i would say 2:1 to Hard crank bait vs soft for me.
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:46 PM
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yeah i usually get some good action on the wildeye pike pattern....until they get caught on rocks...lmao....even if i remove the treble hook
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:09 PM
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If im using my baitcaster nothing beats a spoon, you can cast a country mile. But Id rather use a rap if im trolling because it keeps it simple with depth selection and control.
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:13 PM
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It all depends on the situation. If the fish are biting on spoons thats what I'll use cause they dont get chewed up as bad and their cheaper. Minnow plugs and crank baits are more versitile. You can fish them like a top water, a jerk bait, and the deep divers can be trolled way deeper than spoons. They also dont twist your line up if you want to troll them fast or into a current. My go-to lure for pike is buck tail spinners and spinner baits though. rarely do I find that spoons out fish a spinner or a plug And all my biggest pike have been caught on on large plugs and bucktails.
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:34 PM
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Timc, you're the first person I heard they catch anything on the storm wildeyes. They look good, never had any luck with them and have lots of friends that say the same.
I've been catching boatloads of pike and walleye in the reservoirs around Vulcan with storm softbaits. They're beating cranks and spoons right now.
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:24 AM
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I have seen the Perch pattern Wildeye's outperform everything, when targeting pike.

My biggest secret for catching plenty of pike in the Glenmore reservoir.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:07 PM
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My biggest secret for catching plenty of pike in the Glenmore reservoir.
Interesting. I love killing time on Glenmore.
I've tryed this lure on the Glenmore several times and caught nothing on it. Also tried the whitefish pattern with no results as well.

I've also never caught a pike on a rapala or any other hard plastic crank on Glenmore. Turn these same lures loose on McGreggor and it's a whole different ball game
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:57 PM
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Thumbs up Spoons? Raps?

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Pickerel Rig
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:40 PM
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Sure, if you like sitting for hours drinking beer.lol
Your entitled to use it, but I wish those things were banned.
You get too many lazy fisherman if you can call them that that get a pickerel rig jammed in rocks/weeds, then cut their line. Screws up the pond, and makes life that much harder for guys/gals that fish seriously. Gets caught in props, lines etc. Never mind the miles of line they leave on the shore at the same time.

I would rather fish on a videogame, you'd be less lazy that way.
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Old 07-18-2009, 12:16 AM
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When the pike are on the feed, both work great. I usually use spoons for convenience; they are cheaper, cast further, and are easier to unhook. Floating or shallow diving cranks are useful for drifting over weeds. When the pike are picky, it probably depends on the day.
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:27 AM
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Sure, if you like sitting for hours drinking beer.lol
Your entitled to use it, but I wish those things were banned.
You get too many lazy fisherman if you can call them that that get a pickerel rig jammed in rocks/weeds, then cut their line. Screws up the pond, and makes life that much harder for guys/gals that fish seriously. Gets caught in props, lines etc. Never mind the miles of line they leave on the shore at the same time.

I would rather fish on a videogame, you'd be less lazy that way.
Seems a lot of people have a low opinion of the ol' pickerel rig, and I can see why. When I finally got myself set up for fishing again, I wanted to give the NSR a shot. After asking around (before I got on this forum) the ONLY thing people were telling me to use out there was a pickerel rig. I agree with you that it's a pretty passive way to fish, not terribly entertaining. I don't think I'd even consider using a rig in a pond or anything like that, for the reasons posted already.

Back to the topic at hand, both spoons and Raps have their place, and depending on the day, one may work better than the other, though purely as a matter of personal preference, I like spoons. They're easier to cast out a decent distance and they're less expensive so I don't have to get too choked when I lose one.
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Old 07-18-2009, 04:13 PM
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Lens and Raps
Love em both and use em alot
Anything with orange seems to be the most consistent
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:00 PM
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Yah, I am beginning to see that spoons are just as, or even more, popular then rapalas. I think I am going to try and use rapalas a bit more though. I think the most important thing about being a fisherman is being able to be versatile and adapt to different fishing situations. I would hate to think that I was missing an important arsenal in my tackle box just because I favored something else
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:31 PM
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Len Thompson all the way
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Old 07-20-2009, 11:30 AM
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This is a good topic. Pike are my favorite fish to go after. In my experience... I have just as many with plugs as with spoons. Plugs (rapalas) that have perch coloring seemed to work well for a few years abut I seem to get bites on the yellow and red colors. In terms of spoons – up north on Pine and Siebert... all pike I caught up there were on a simple silver spoon or a massive plug.

Last year though when I was flattening the barbs... I actually removed all but one treble on all my rapalas and plugs (they all have just one now). I find the action in the lure much better, the damaged to fish is much less (in my mind) and my tackle is a little less tangled up without all those 2-3 treble rapalas creating havoc.

Actually to be truthful... I find I have way more fun fishing for pike with a fly rod. I do this most often now. I picked it up about 5 years ago and became “hooked” right away... I get a few strange looks... you need strong rig set-up... but it is becoming more common.

Good luck...
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Old 07-18-2009, 05:35 AM
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Holy topic fail Batman!
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