How To End This Covid Stupidity

[bertha]

Originally Posted by saskbooknut

The Covid virus is only temporarily slowed down.
You can make the toll worse, much worse.
There will be a second wave, and history of pandemics suggests that it will be worse than the first.

agree

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

Few questions for the guys on this side.


How much of our money are you willing to spend to save one life?

Do you extend this logic to other things such as driving? Should we stop driving cars to prevent people dying in crashes?

Do you have any evidence that supports that it was the lockdown that kept our covid numbers low here in Alberta?

How many grocery store workers were sickened or died from going to work?

Why didn’t the numbers spike after Georgia opened a month ago?

In Canada we are spending right around 50 million per Covid death. Worth it?

Common sense would indicate it did, do you have any evidence that it didn't?

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by HVA7mm

I’m not too far off from collecting, so I’ll try to get my share too

not if you visit your hairdresser …. might be taking a dirt nap....

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

not if you visit your hairdresser …. might be taking a dirt nap....

Buy a lottery ticket....Might win....

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

Buy a lottery ticket....Might win....

why not...just gamble at everything....

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

why not...just gamble at everything....

That's life
I'm sure many of us were conceived by a gamble...

[HVA7mm]

Originally Posted by 58thecat

not if you visit your hairdresser …. might be taking a dirt nap....

I am my own hairdresser lately, so I should be ok in that regard. I did spend some time in Singapore/Australia and transited through Tokyo/Seattle back in February, have been working full time since the outbreak (essential service), and by some miracle I'm still here

I still only personally know of one person that tested positive for COVID-19 (a young gal my daughter worked with who is asthmatic), and she had a sore throat/runny nose for a few days.

I'm not really much of a crowd/shopping center type person, so other than not being around as many family/friends as before, or spending as much money, it's been business as usual. I won't be dwelling on the what if's too much, and I tried not to focus on some of the earlier probably scenarios. If I had focused on that, I'd probably be sicker from worry than COVID would make me. So for the time being I'll keep on keeping on, practice good hygiene, eat healthy/exercise regularly and stay away from people who are or appear to be sick. Life will go on, of that I have absolutely no doubt.


Disclaimer: "If I never post again, I guess that I was wrong."

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by HVA7mm

I am my own hairdresser lately, so I should be ok in that regard. I did spend some time in Singapore/Australia and transited through Tokyo/Seattle back in February, have been working full time since the outbreak (essential service), and by some miracle I'm still here

I still only personally know of one person that tested positive for COVID-19 (a young gal my daughter worked with who is asthmatic), and she had a sore throat/runny nose for a few days.

I'm not really much of a crowd/shopping center type person, so other than not being around as many family/friends as before, or spending as much money, it's been business as usual. I won't be dwelling on the what if's too much, and I tried not to focus on some of the earlier probably scenarios. If I had focused on that, I'd probably be sicker from worry than COVID would make me. So for the time being I'll keep on keeping on, practice good hygiene, eat healthy/exercise regularly and stay away from people who are or appear to be sick. Life will go on, of that I have absolutely no doubt.


Disclaimer: "If I never post again, I guess that I was wrong."

I hope you post again....whatever your essential service is...thx.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

That's life
I'm sure many of us were conceived by a gamble...

I like nature.........something to do when isolating with another

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Common sense would indicate it did, do you have any evidence that it didn't?

Obviously the other questions blew your hair back.

How many grocery store workers got sick?

How many connections did the contract tracers link to grocery stores.

Why didn’t Georgia have an explosion of cases after they lifted their lockdown prior to peak covid?

I’ll give you a hint what I am getting at... Grocery stores are the control in the lockdown experiment and they did not produce the “common sense“ results.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by MountainTi

That's life
I'm sure many of us were conceived by a gamble...

hers's a group of gamblers....untitled.png….perhaps another reason for a second wave....or not...time will tell....these are the same type of people that proceeded to urinate all over the place too....booze it up....hmmm the future looks strong.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

Obviously the other questions blew your hair back.

How many grocery store workers got sick?

How many connections did the contract tracers link to grocery stores.

Why didn’t Georgia have an explosion of cases after they lifted their lockdown prior to peak covid?

I’ll give you a hint what I am getting at... Grocery stores are the control in the lockdown experiment and they did not produce the “common sense“ results.

So you have no evidence other than your opinion of what strong evidence looks like.

[MountainTi]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Common sense would indicate it did, do you have any evidence that it didn't?

Originally Posted by pikergolf

So you have no evidence other than your opinion of what strong evidence looks like.

To be fair, yours to was an opinion with no strong evidence

[bessiedog]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

So you have no evidence other than your opinion of what strong evidence looks like.

He is safe and angry in the basement however.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by bessiedog

He is safe and angry in the basement however.

don't forget the hot dog juice leaking out of the corner of the mouth awaiting another covid handout….at least in the basement social distancing can be maintained....maybe.

[Sneeze]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

So you have no evidence other than your opinion of what strong evidence looks like.

I’m not the one advocating for the destruction of small business and robbing our children blind to pay for helicopter money. The duty is to the proponents of the lockdown to provide some sort of evidence that the economic destruction is justified. My questions are simple and the answers should lead a level headed individual to question our current & past lockdown policy.

Originally Posted by bessiedog

He is safe and angry in the basement however.

Oh Bessie, you must have an alert set whenever I post. We can’t all be so fortunate to collect full paycheques from the government for teaching an hour of online classes a week from our homes.

Originally Posted by 58thecat

don't forget the hot dog juice leaking out of the corner of the mouth awaiting another covid handout….at least in the basement social distancing can be maintained....maybe.

Yawn. When lefties brains stall out on logic and reason it’s to be expected they lash out with personal insults.

[pikergolf]

Originally Posted by Sneeze

I’m not the one advocating for the destruction of small business and robbing our children blind to pay for helicopter money. The duty is to the proponents of the lockdown to provide some sort of evidence that the economic destruction is justified. My questions are simple and the answers should lead a level headed individual to question our current & past lockdown policy.



Oh Bessie, you must have an alert set whenever I post. We can’t all be so fortunate to collect full paycheques from the government for teaching an hour of online classes a week from our homes.



Yawn. When lefties brains stall out on logic and reason it’s to be expected they lash out with personal insults.

I'm not either, I think we need to get back to work. Given the information we had at the time I think it was the right thing to do. Turns out or at least it looks like it was somewhat overblown. We disagree on whether it was effective or not, I think it was, but it is time to move on. It doesn't make me a lefty, liberal, socialist or commie. Doesn't mean I hate Trump or guns, or suggest I kick dogs. All it means is we disagree on whether the lock down helped stop the spread. I think we should have started back to normal a month ago, but we have the benefit of hindsight. Those making decisions at the time did not, yes mistakes were made, but it's not like we had a template of protocol to follow.

[Cement Bench]

I like your style and they can’t seem to respond with facts, as per usual of the far left wacko movement

Originally Posted by Sneeze

I’m not the one advocating for the destruction of small business and robbing our children blind to pay for helicopter money. The duty is to the proponents of the lockdown to provide some sort of evidence that the economic destruction is justified. My questions are simple and the answers should lead a level headed individual to question our current & past lockdown policy.



Oh Bessie, you must have an alert set whenever I post. We can’t all be so fortunate to collect full paycheques from the government for teaching an hour of online classes a week from our homes.



Yawn. When lefties brains stall out on logic and reason it’s to be expected they lash out with personal insults.

[sk270]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

I'm not either, I think we need to get back to work. Given the information we had at the time I think it was the right thing to do. Turns out or at least it looks like it was somewhat overblown. We disagree on whether it was effective or not, I think it was, but it is time to move on. It doesn't make me a lefty, liberal, socialist or commie. Doesn't mean I hate Trump or guns, or suggest I kick dogs. All it means is we disagree on whether the lock down helped stop the spread. I think we should have started back to normal a month ago, but we have the benefit of hindsight. Those making decisions at the time did not, yes mistakes were made, but it's not like we had a template of protocol to follow.

Excellent post.

I think the prairie provinces have managed the pandemic as well as anybody could. The population density no doubt helped, when we look at the situation in Quebec and Ontario.

As far as being overblown, I'm not sure. Covid-19 does seem to have a death rate 4 or 5 times that of seasonal influenzas in Canada.

I really don't see how lock down responses to the pandemic can be linked to right or left wing politics. Governments at all positions on the left-right spectrum have tried to respond, most by lock downs.

[One'n'Done]

Anyone who thinks this covid pandemic is overblown bs and no worse than the seasonal flu needs to talk to the people in Bergamo, Madrid or New York who actually lived through phrase one of covid-19 or better yet head for São Paulo and volunteer to help bury the bodies.

[bessiedog]

oh sneezie

I just like it when you come out and get some sunshine.

I just bought a new whistle..... thought I'd try it..... it works.

[58thecat]

Originally Posted by bessiedog

oh sneezie

I just like it when you come out and get some sunshine.

I just bought a new whistle..... thought I'd try it..... it works.

hook..line..and sinker...nice catch!

youda be da maste'anglerrrr!

[MK2750]

Originally Posted by One'n'Done

Anyone who thinks this covid pandemic is overblown bs and no worse than the seasonal flu needs to talk to the people in Bergamo, Madrid or New York who actually lived through phrase one of covid-19 or better yet head for São Paulo and volunteer to help bury the bodies.

Covid is deadly for seniors. NY and the worst hit parts of the world actually put covid sick people in with the seniors.

There are people in many countries, including our own, that were criminal in their treatment of seniors during this pandemic.

Bill Blair was made aware of criminal senior's abuse over two weeks ago as reported by the military and decided to ignore the evidence and focus on law abiding gun owners instead.

[Flatlandliver]

https://public.flourish.studio/visua...RkiYO6-pRtFfG4

[CBintheNorth]

Originally Posted by Flatlandliver

https://public.flourish.studio/visua...RkiYO6-pRtFfG4

Cool chart! Very colourful and fear instilling actually.
Till you read the fine print at the bottom.
It's in first place of the bottom 7% of causes of death....globally.

[Bergerboy]

Originally Posted by CBintheNorth

Cool chart! Very colourful and fear instilling actually.
Till you read the fine print at the bottom.
It's in first place of the bottom 7% of causes of death....globally.

I was looking at that also. I am on their site trying to look at the background data. I am guessing people who die with underlying symptoms like cancer, heart disease etc are all lumped into covid. Never trust any processed data unless they are willing to show you the method and source of the information used.

[MyAlberta]

Originally Posted by pikergolf

Common sense would indicate it did, do you have any evidence that it didn't?

Actually, it’s not common sense. It’s a realization that statistics is a very effective way of describing the going on’s around us. It doesn’t come naturally, but from advanced education in the field. To not know, is completely acceptable. To deny is ignorance.
Mankind’s success is largely due to thier social ability. This, and likely future pandemics, takes advantage of that most basic characteristic. Have we over reacted?, time will tell, but consider it practice if you will, as the potential for further pestulance is high. But hey, is there a life form that considers the future? Maybe reaction is the best course of action in the natural world.

[Big Grey Wolf]

Them Americans are the best examples when you do not follow advice of senior heath experts. They only have a number of states with some degree of control of Corona. They have 16 states with numbers still going out of control. Good example of having lots of freedoms when you have a world pandemic.

[HVA7mm]

I just picked a couple of charts off of the GOA website. One is total deaths in Alberta by age group for 2014, the other is current total deaths in Alberta due to COVID.

In 2014 there were nearly 11000 deaths in Alberta in the 80 and up age group alone. The current average age of COVID deaths is 83. COVID has thus far claimed the lives of 100 people 80+ age group, 28 people in the 70-79 age group, 10 in the 60-69. Most of the deaths took place in long term care facilities.

I think that Albertans have done a picture perfect job at slowing down the spread to a crawl. With only 50 people currently hospitalized, we have not even come close to overwhelming any healthcare facilities. I also think that Alberta, like the rest of the world needs to take a serious look at how we look after our aging population in long term care facilities (unless they truly don't care, which seems to be the case in some places).

[coolpool]

Has anyone thought that the number of cases in Ontario and Quebec is natures way of punishing them for voting in sparklesocks