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Old 05-27-2020, 04:35 PM
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Old 05-27-2020, 04:42 PM
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That's surprising. Sure popular technology in their sleds. Thought it would be the same in the boating world. My Evi is a 30 yr old 9.9 lol.
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Wow!
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:03 PM
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That's surprising. Sure popular technology in their sleds. Thought it would be the same in the boating world. My Evi is a 30 yr old 9.9 lol.

In the sleds where they use Etecs, lightweight is number #1 priority and reliability and fuel mileage isn’t. In outboards it’s the opposite, fuel mileage and reliability is most important and weight is secondary. That’s why the four stroke outboard market shut them down. I just don’t understand why they didn’t build four stroke outboards, they are the number 1 four stroke manufacturer in snowmobiles.
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Old 05-27-2020, 07:26 PM
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Amazing they used COVID as reason for this strategic directional change. To me competition is good and they were a great alternative. So this kinda sux.
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I looked at them last yr but they couldn't compete with Mercury or Yamaha on price. I went with the Yamaha, no regrets.
I am a big fan of Evinrude before BRP got hold of them.I have 5 vintage Evinrude /Johnson still in the shed .
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Old 05-27-2020, 07:38 PM
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Surprised to hear this, everyone I know that has been around them raves about the E-tech outboards. I’ve never ran one.

My old 82 7.5 hp Evinrude and 150 HP Johnson Fast Strike have been awesome motors.
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Old 05-27-2020, 07:52 PM
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In the sleds where they use Etecs, lightweight is number #1 priority and reliability and fuel mileage isn’t. In outboards it’s the opposite, fuel mileage and reliability is most important and weight is secondary. That’s why the four stroke outboard market shut them down. I just don’t understand why they didn’t build four stroke outboards, they are the number 1 four stroke manufacturer in snowmobiles.
The price of them was the obstacle. However the e-techs were building more HP and torque and revved higher than any four stroke. The E-Tec’s would throttle any outboard out there. Sad to hear this. I wanted a G2 when I planned to buy a new boat in the next 10ish years.

I have an early 90’s 9.9 evinrude. My brother has the 150 e-tec and that thing impresses the heck out of me.

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Old 05-27-2020, 08:07 PM
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I wonder what this will mean for future parts availability for those of us with older Johnson and Evinrude Outboards?
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Old 05-27-2020, 08:32 PM
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This is disappointing to hear. I run a 2019 Alumacraft with a 40 Etec. Great motor and it barely uses any oil. Very good technology.
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I wonder what this will mean for future parts availability for those of us with older Johnson and Evinrude Outboards?
I wouldn't be optimistic!

I had a 1994 Evinrude 90 hp


I wish I could remember the year Evinrude declared 1994 and before obsolete, I can't. But my motor was about 15 ish years old, maybe newer. I was wild.

I bought a brand new boat last year. I bought a Merc, and I took a close look at Yamis and Hondas. I used to wear an Rude ball cap I loved my boat and motor so much, but I am so bitter about my motor being declared obsolete, I'd never buy another Evinrude.
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The price of them was the obstacle. However the e-techs were building more HP and torque and revved higher than any four stroke. The E-Tec’s would throttle any outboard out there. Sad to hear this. I wanted a G2 when I planned to buy a new boat in the next 10ish years.

I have an early 90’s 9.9 evinrude. My brother has the 150 e-tec and that thing impresses the heck out of me.
I agree 1000%. These aren't your grandpa's 2-strokes. And the poor fuel mileage and reliability stuff is pure nonsense. They actually use less fuel than a comparable 4 stroke that produces the same torque and horsepower and less moving parts = greater reliability. I also wanted a G2 on my next boat. I'm running a 12 year old optimax right now and the thing is bulletproof. And sips fuel. And I have never babied it, I run the whey out of it. I've had several Evinrudes in the past and they all ran well.
A pretty sad day in the marine industry IMO.

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Old 05-27-2020, 10:41 PM
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Wow, thats pretty amazing news.

They were the number one go-to outboard for the Coast Guard. They ran alot of their R&D through the CG because they would put them through the greatest amount of hours in such a short time span. And the most abuse that anyone could imagine....destroying both legs (on a twin 300 outboard set up) at 50 knts, after hitting a log, many many groundings, 4-5 meter seas, and alot trained on these as well....
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Old 05-27-2020, 10:58 PM
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I agree 1000%. These aren't your grandpa's 2-strokes. And the poor fuel mileage and reliability stuff is pure nonsense. They actually use less fuel than a comparable 4 stroke that produces the same torque and horsepower and less moving parts = greater reliability. I also wanted a G2 on my next boat. I'm running a 12 year old optimax right now and the thing is bulletproof. And sips fuel. And I have never babied it, I run the whey out of it. I've had several Evinrudes in the past and they all ran well.
A pretty sad day in the marine industry IMO.

I realize full well that these aren’t my Grandpas two stroke. They do well on fuel, yes, but not better than a four stroke as BRP’s marketing department would want you to believe. There’s many real world tests that prove this. The older Optimax actually do better than the etec. They are reliable but not like a four stroke. A 200 hp Optimax is a 700-1000hr motor if you are lucky. Four stroke will easily make it to 2000 and probably even double that. Parts prices is another thing that put them out of business. I know a guy that had to replace the lower unit on his 60 Etec. $6000 plus labor!!! Don’t get me wrong, I like Evinrude products. But they should’ve looked at what the market wanted, and built that, instead of deciding they would build two strokes no matter what.
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I’d expect about 10 years of good parts support, that’s about what BRP has on their other products. After that, common parts will run out and then those motors will be really cheap.
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