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The Source of the Harmless Wolf Myth by Valerius Geist

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The Source of the Harmless Wolf Myth
Note: Dr. Valerius Geist, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science at the University of Calgary in Alberta, is a renowned expert in wildlife management and conservation practices. In addition to teaching, writing about, and lecturing on the subjects, Dr. Geist has performed years of in-the-field research on big game species. He has authored 16 books, seven documentary films and contributed 40 entries to various encyclopedias. Two of his papers are posted in the W.I.S.E. Colloquium: Wildlife Sciences [here, here]. Other essays by Dr. Geist are [here, here, here, here, here, here]

The effects of thousands of impoverished trappers and wolf bounties in northern Alberta early in the 20th century on predators, and its relation to the myth of the harmless wolf.

by Valerius Geist

I have been digging into historical literature in my quest to understand why in North America the myth of the “harmless wolf” took such a such a severe hold, to the point of perverting scholarship and quite probably leading to the death of some believers.

The conventional view of the harmless wolf, which I also believed in throughout my academic career and four years into retirement, is in sharp contrast to experiences elsewhere. Yet, it certainly coincided with my personal experience pre-1999 when a misbehaving pack of wolves settled about our and our neighbor’s properties at the edge of a farming district in central Vancouver Island. I subsequently discovered that the wolves were much the same in their behavior, whatever their origins, but that circumstances lead to vastly different outcomes.

In general, the evidence indicates that wolves are very careful to choose the most nutritious food source most easily obtained without danger. They tackle dangerous prey only when they run out of non dangerous prey, and they shift to new prey only very gradually, following a long period of gradual exploration. Wolves are very sensitive to strangeness, including a potential prey species strange to them. Garbage is the easiest and safest food source for wolves, and they do take advantage of such. Once they are habituated to people due to their proximity, they may begin to investigate people. The ultimate exploration of a strange prey by a carnivore is to attack — consequently, the danger from habituated wolves. However, they need not have garbage, just a shortage of prey to begin investigating and eventually attacking humans. This means that as long as wolves have sufficient natural prey, they leave livestock aloe. As long as they have livestock they leave humans alone. When short of natural prey and livestock they turn their attention to humans and their habitations and may even break into such to extract cattle, horses, pigs, sheep or poultry. Dogs and cats are attacked before that. We humans are next in line, primarily children. But even then the initial attacks are exploratory in nature and clumsy, allowing some victims to escape. However, this scenario is of exceptional scarcity in North America, though it is practiced occasionally by coyotes targeting children in urban parks.

The discrepancy, however, between global and conventional American experiences with wolves is crass. Wolves have killed thousands upon thousands of people as chronicled by European and Asian sources, yet in North America fatal attacks are few and disputed. The differences are real. What then was going on in the past century in North America to make wolves so harmless? I felt I had obtained part of the answer that showed that wolves are wolves wherever they occur, but that circumstances can generate very different outcomes in wolf behavior.


In a teleconference with a committee of the Montana legislature last April, I suggested that in Canada trapping and official wolf control via hired predator control officers was likely a good part of the answer. I ran subsequently into most unlikely sources, plus follow-ups. These are the memoirs of two German authors, the two volume work of Max Hinsche (1935) Kanada Wirklich Erlebt (Canada really experienced) and Reinhold Eben-Ebnau (1953) Goldgelbeds Herbstlaub (Golden yellow fall leaves). In addition I examined C. Gorden Hewit’s (1921) The Conservation of the Wildlife of Canada and followed up with some reading by a like-minded and qualified author on Russian and Siberian conditions Egon Freiherr von Kapherr (1941) Wo es trommelt und röhrt (Where [wildlife] drums and roars).

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The Source of the Harmless Wolf Myth
Note: Dr. Valerius Geist, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science at the University of Calgary in Alberta, is a renowned expert in wildlife management and conservation practices. In addition to teaching, writing about, and lecturing on the subjects, Dr. Geist has performed years of in-the-field research on big game species. He has authored 16 books, seven documentary films and contributed 40 entries to various encyclopedias. Two of his papers are posted in the W.I.S.E. Colloquium: Wildlife Sciences [here, here]. Other essays by Dr. Geist are [here, here, here, here, here, here]

The effects of thousands of impoverished trappers and wolf bounties in northern Alberta early in the 20th century on predators, and its relation to the myth of the harmless wolf.

by Valerius Geist

I have been digging into historical literature in my quest to understand why in North America the myth of the “harmless wolf” took such a such a severe hold, to the point of perverting scholarship and quite probably leading to the death of some believers.

The conventional view of the harmless wolf, which I also believed in throughout my academic career and four years into retirement, is in sharp contrast to experiences elsewhere. Yet, it certainly coincided with my personal experience pre-1999 when a misbehaving pack of wolves settled about our and our neighbor’s properties at the edge of a farming district in central Vancouver Island. I subsequently discovered that the wolves were much the same in their behavior, whatever their origins, but that circumstances lead to vastly different outcomes.

In general, the evidence indicates that wolves are very careful to choose the most nutritious food source most easily obtained without danger. They tackle dangerous prey only when they run out of non dangerous prey, and they shift to new prey only very gradually, following a long period of gradual exploration. Wolves are very sensitive to strangeness, including a potential prey species strange to them. Garbage is the easiest and safest food source for wolves, and they do take advantage of such. Once they are habituated to people due to their proximity, they may begin to investigate people. The ultimate exploration of a strange prey by a carnivore is to attack — consequently, the danger from habituated wolves. However, they need not have garbage, just a shortage of prey to begin investigating and eventually attacking humans. This means that as long as wolves have sufficient natural prey, they leave livestock aloe. As long as they have livestock they leave humans alone. When short of natural prey and livestock they turn their attention to humans and their habitations and may even break into such to extract cattle, horses, pigs, sheep or poultry. Dogs and cats are attacked before that. We humans are next in line, primarily children. But even then the initial attacks are exploratory in nature and clumsy, allowing some victims to escape. However, this scenario is of exceptional scarcity in North America, though it is practiced occasionally by coyotes targeting children in urban parks.

The discrepancy, however, between global and conventional American experiences with wolves is crass. Wolves have killed thousands upon thousands of people as chronicled by European and Asian sources, yet in North America fatal attacks are few and disputed. The differences are real. What then was going on in the past century in North America to make wolves so harmless? I felt I had obtained part of the answer that showed that wolves are wolves wherever they occur, but that circumstances can generate very different outcomes in wolf behavior.


In a teleconference with a committee of the Montana legislature last April, I suggested that in Canada trapping and official wolf control via hired predator control officers was likely a good part of the answer. I ran subsequently into most unlikely sources, plus follow-ups. These are the memoirs of two German authors, the two volume work of Max Hinsche (1935) Kanada Wirklich Erlebt (Canada really experienced) and Reinhold Eben-Ebnau (1953) Goldgelbeds Herbstlaub (Golden yellow fall leaves). In addition I examined C. Gorden Hewit’s (1921) The Conservation of the Wildlife of Canada and followed up with some reading by a like-minded and qualified author on Russian and Siberian conditions Egon Freiherr von Kapherr (1941) Wo es trommelt und röhrt (Where [wildlife] drums and roars).

Max Hinsche arrived in Canada in 1926 and became trapper and collector of wildlife. He was a taxidermist by trade. He spent eight years on the Athabaska River in Northern Alberta, but traveled for a year in the then unexplored Yukon before retuning to Germany in 1935. He wrote his memoirs in two volumes, and died shortly thereafter. He arrived virtually destitute in Canada, and rumor has it he fled the law. When he returned with a significant collection for the Dresden Natural History Museum, somehow, all was forgiven, and his books made him for a short time a hero.

Hinsche is an excellent, vivid writer, and a close, careful, objective observer. His is far and beyond the best account of how trappers lived in Northern Alberta 1926-1935. He illustrates a community of desperately poor, hard struggling men who at great danger to themselves trapped for a meager grubstake in winter. In summer they were employed as laborers, which earned them just enough to go once again trapping. Most held down a trap line alone, some lived in pairs, however, all were united in a web of mutual support and code of conduct. It is evident that there were many such poor trappers as Hinsche met them on the Athabaska going to and from to his trap lines. After a first dreadful year in which Hinsche and a companion of his almost starved to death, Hinsche set up a routine that made him reasonably successful and allowed him some museum collecting. He was out virtually day and night and experienced especially Canadian winter conditions in their full severity.

What was Hinsche’s views on wildlife and wolves? When he came in 1926 moose were scarce, but increased and were abundant when he left in 1935. Mule deer were abundant throughout. Wolves were present, but not common and Hinsche in eight years had only one serious run-in with a wolf pack. However, that run in, described in exquisite detail, is classic. A pack confronted him as he trespassed into an area where they had killed three moose and three deer. Hinsche pointing out that he had only four shells in his rifle, backed out without shooting and reached his cabin safely. (A Saskatchewan friend of mine did exactly the same thing opposing seven very pushy wolves with five cartridges in his rifle’s magazine and chamber). Hinsche counted 18 wolf beds in the snow the following day.

Hinsche trapped a few wolves along with other fur-bearers. His significance resides in his detailed account of the attitude of trappers towards wolves due to the problems wolves cause them. He points out that when wolves arrive in a trappers area, they first of all spook off the big game which the trappers rely on for food. These desperately poor men and their few dogs relied almost entirely on big game for food through the long winter, and when wolves emptied the land of moose and deer the trappers could be in serious difficulty. As we learn later in detail from Eben-Ebenau, keeping meat safe for personal use was not easy, as some bears managed to get at cached meat, which meant that the trapper had to disrupt trap line work and go hunting once again. Finding no wildlife to hunt was thus a very serious concern for a trapper. Secondly, wolves notoriously followed trappers, and destroyed the catch in the traps. This was a serious financial loss to already very poor men, especially if wolves destroyed a high value fur such as lynx, marten, mink, or cross fox. Thirdly, wolves could destroy sled dogs, another economic blow. (And I must add that there are also incidents of a wolf or more attacking a trapper and/or his sled dog team as told to me by native trappers, though neither Hinsche nor Eben-Ebenau mention such). Consequently, and understandably, trapper sought to rid themselves of wolves. Wolf fur was of no particular value. However, with a bounty added, there was incentive to trap wolves. One advantage of the bounty system was that only the scalp had to be handed in to receive the money. Consequently, one only needed the scalp, and one could save oneself the trouble of skinning, preparing and transporting the bulky wolf fur.
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Hinsche makes a point that while poison on the trap line was outlawed in 1922, trappers continued to use it on wolves as they could, with some luck, eliminate a wolf pack in one setting, whereas with leg-hold traps they could only catch one or two wolves at best, leaving the survivors to continue with their mischief. Eben-Enenau makes much the same point, but with snares, which were also outlawed (though the prohibition was largely ignored by trappers). A well-set series of snares could catch most of a pack and kill the caught wolves quickly. Ebenau was very skilled in setting snares for wolves, and caught or shot many more wolves than the average trapper. Leg-hold traps large enough to securely hold a wolf had to be fairly large, heavy, and bulky — which would be added work for the already stressed-out trapper. Traps were set along trap lines that were up to a hundred miles long and carrying traps such distances was hard work. Dog teams were not always at hand. After all, game had to be shot for the dogs, or fish caught and dried and transported to the distant line cabins. And then there was the serious problem of bears breaking into trapper cabins and caches. There was thus incentive to not only remove wolves but bears as well. And that, we can safely expect, had a positive impact on the survival of fawns and calves of deer, moose, and woodland caribou.

Eben-Ebenau, who came to Canada in 1929, and to north-western Alberta in 1931, describes matters up to 1951. He was a German blue blood, an educated man with an insatiable thirst for hunting. An excellent writer, he was a hard-nosed, very skeptical man who hunted down hard facts with determination. That’s why he records not only the life of trappers quite similar to Hinsche, and social circumstances far superior to the latter, but of interest from current perspective is his accumulation of quantitative data about trappers, as well as his observations of the behavior of wolves. We therefore know how many trappers there were in northern Alberta, how may wolves they killed, how high was the bounty, and how much was paid out.

Eben-Ebenau was so excellent an observer of wildlife that I made use of his observations in synthesizing the biology of moose in my books Deer of the World: Their Evolution, Behaviour, and Ecology (1998) [here] and Moose: Behavior, Ecology, Conservation (1999) [here]. Eben-Ebenau remained well connected to Germany and provided a first rate exhibition of Canadian moose trophies to the 1937 hunting exhibition in Berlin. He maintained a close contact with the natural museum there, as well as famous German personalities, whom he guided or hunted with in Canada. I got to know Eben-Ebenau personally, exchanged correspondence, and we visited each other. I was able to admire his 1937 collection, now displayed at his home at lesser Slave Lake, where he homesteaded. He became a well known guide and outfitter and was honored by the Province of Alberta for his conservation work. This all becomes significant in view of what Ebenau ultimately writes about wolves in northern Alberta.

Trapper income

Max Hinsche’s (p.53) and partner’s 1926/27 catch amounted to one wolf, and 131 ermines for an income of $74.05. In 1951, according to Eben-Ebenau (p.203), the average income of an Alberta trapper was $426. Eben-Ebenau (p. 197) also wrote that he never made more than $500 a winter. He could make twice that working as a carpenter. Clearly, the income from trapping was very low, even if the value of the dollar then was much greater than today. Hinsche’s and his partner’s 1926/27 expenses were not covered by the above return from trapping.

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The Source of the Harmless Wolf Myth
Note: Dr. Valerius Geist, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science at the University of Calgary in Alberta, is a renowned expert in wildlife management and conservation practices. In addition to teaching, writing about, and lecturing on the subjects, Dr. Geist has performed years of in-the-field research on big game species. He has authored 16 books, seven documentary films and contributed 40 entries to various encyclopedias. Two of his papers are posted in the W.I.S.E. Colloquium: Wildlife Sciences [here, here]. Other essays by Dr. Geist are [here, here, here, here, here, here]

The effects of thousands of impoverished trappers and wolf bounties in northern Alberta early in the 20th century on predators, and its relation to the myth of the harmless wolf.

by Valerius Geist

I have been digging into historical literature in my quest to understand why in North America the myth of the “harmless wolf” took such a such a severe hold, to the point of perverting scholarship and quite probably leading to the death of some believers.

The conventional view of the harmless wolf, which I also believed in throughout my academic career and four years into retirement, is in sharp contrast to experiences elsewhere. Yet, it certainly coincided with my personal experience pre-1999 when a misbehaving pack of wolves settled about our and our neighbor’s properties at the edge of a farming district in central Vancouver Island. I subsequently discovered that the wolves were much the same in their behavior, whatever their origins, but that circumstances lead to vastly different outcomes.

In general, the evidence indicates that wolves are very careful to choose the most nutritious food source most easily obtained without danger. They tackle dangerous prey only when they run out of non dangerous prey, and they shift to new prey only very gradually, following a long period of gradual exploration. Wolves are very sensitive to strangeness, including a potential prey species strange to them. Garbage is the easiest and safest food source for wolves, and they do take advantage of such. Once they are habituated to people due to their proximity, they may begin to investigate people. The ultimate exploration of a strange prey by a carnivore is to attack — consequently, the danger from habituated wolves. However, they need not have garbage, just a shortage of prey to begin investigating and eventually attacking humans. This means that as long as wolves have sufficient natural prey, they leave livestock aloe. As long as they have livestock they leave humans alone. When short of natural prey and livestock they turn their attention to humans and their habitations and may even break into such to extract cattle, horses, pigs, sheep or poultry. Dogs and cats are attacked before that. We humans are next in line, primarily children. But even then the initial attacks are exploratory in nature and clumsy, allowing some victims to escape. However, this scenario is of exceptional scarcity in North America, though it is practiced occasionally by coyotes targeting children in urban parks.

The discrepancy, however, between global and conventional American experiences with wolves is crass. Wolves have killed thousands upon thousands of people as chronicled by European and Asian sources, yet in North America fatal attacks are few and disputed. The differences are real. What then was going on in the past century in North America to make wolves so harmless? I felt I had obtained part of the answer that showed that wolves are wolves wherever they occur, but that circumstances can generate very different outcomes in wolf behavior.


In a teleconference with a committee of the Montana legislature last April, I suggested that in Canada trapping and official wolf control via hired predator control officers was likely a good part of the answer. I ran subsequently into most unlikely sources, plus follow-ups. These are the memoirs of two German authors, the two volume work of Max Hinsche (1935) Kanada Wirklich Erlebt (Canada really experienced) and Reinhold Eben-Ebnau (1953) Goldgelbeds Herbstlaub (Golden yellow fall leaves). In addition I examined C. Gorden Hewit’s (1921) The Conservation of the Wildlife of Canada and followed up with some reading by a like-minded and qualified author on Russian and Siberian conditions Egon Freiherr von Kapherr (1941) Wo es trommelt und röhrt (Where [wildlife] drums and roars).

Max Hinsche arrived in Canada in 1926 and became trapper and collector of wildlife. He was a taxidermist by trade. He spent eight years on the Athabaska River in Northern Alberta, but traveled for a year in the then unexplored Yukon before retuning to Germany in 1935. He wrote his memoirs in two volumes, and died shortly thereafter. He arrived virtually destitute in Canada, and rumor has it he fled the law. When he returned with a significant collection for the Dresden Natural History Museum, somehow, all was forgiven, and his books made him for a short time a hero.

Hinsche is an excellent, vivid writer, and a close, careful, objective observer. His is far and beyond the best account of how trappers lived in Northern Alberta 1926-1935. He illustrates a community of desperately poor, hard struggling men who at great danger to themselves trapped for a meager grubstake in winter. In summer they were employed as laborers, which earned them just enough to go once again trapping. Most held down a trap line alone, some lived in pairs, however, all were united in a web of mutual support and code of conduct. It is evident that there were many such poor trappers as Hinsche met them on the Athabaska going to and from to his trap lines. After a first dreadful year in which Hinsche and a companion of his almost starved to death, Hinsche set up a routine that made him reasonably successful and allowed him some museum collecting. He was out virtually day and night and experienced especially Canadian winter conditions in their full severity.

What was Hinsche’s views on wildlife and wolves? When he came in 1926 moose were scarce, but increased and were abundant when he left in 1935. Mule deer were abundant throughout. Wolves were present, but not common and Hinsche in eight years had only one serious run-in with a wolf pack. However, that run in, described in exquisite detail, is classic. A pack confronted him as he trespassed into an area where they had killed three moose and three deer. Hinsche pointing out that he had only four shells in his rifle, backed out without shooting and reached his cabin safely. (A Saskatchewan friend of mine did exactly the same thing opposing seven very pushy wolves with five cartridges in his rifle’s magazine and chamber). Hinsche counted 18 wolf beds in the snow the following day.

Hinsche trapped a few wolves along with other fur-bearers. His significance resides in his detailed account of the attitude of trappers towards wolves due to the problems wolves cause them. He points out that when wolves arrive in a trappers area, they first of all spook off the big game which the trappers rely on for food. These desperately poor men and their few dogs relied almost entirely on big game for food through the long winter, and when wolves emptied the land of moose and deer the trappers could be in serious difficulty. As we learn later in detail from Eben-Ebenau, keeping meat safe for personal use was not easy, as some bears managed to get at cached meat, which meant that the trapper had to disrupt trap line work and go hunting once again. Finding no wildlife to hunt was thus a very serious concern for a trapper. Secondly, wolves notoriously followed trappers, and destroyed the catch in the traps. This was a serious financial loss to already very poor men, especially if wolves destroyed a high value fur such as lynx, marten, mink, or cross fox. Thirdly, wolves could destroy sled dogs, another economic blow. (And I must add that there are also incidents of a wolf or more attacking a trapper and/or his sled dog team as told to me by native trappers, though neither Hinsche nor Eben-Ebenau mention such). Consequently, and understandably, trapper sought to rid themselves of wolves. Wolf fur was of no particular value. However, with a bounty added, there was incentive to trap wolves. One advantage of the bounty system was that only the scalp had to be handed in to receive the money. Consequently, one only needed the scalp, and one could save oneself the trouble of skinning, preparing and transporting the bulky wolf fur.

Hinsche makes a point that while poison on the trap line was outlawed in 1922, trappers continued to use it on wolves as they could, with some luck, eliminate a wolf pack in one setting, whereas with leg-hold traps they could only catch one or two wolves at best, leaving the survivors to continue with their mischief. Eben-Enenau makes much the same point, but with snares, which were also outlawed (though the prohibition was largely ignored by trappers). A well-set series of snares could catch most of a pack and kill the caught wolves quickly. Ebenau was very skilled in setting snares for wolves, and caught or shot many more wolves than the average trapper. Leg-hold traps large enough to securely hold a wolf had to be fairly large, heavy, and bulky — which would be added work for the already stressed-out trapper. Traps were set along trap lines that were up to a hundred miles long and carrying traps such distances was hard work. Dog teams were not always at hand. After all, game had to be shot for the dogs, or fish caught and dried and transported to the distant line cabins. And then there was the serious problem of bears breaking into trapper cabins and caches. There was thus incentive to not only remove wolves but bears as well. And that, we can safely expect, had a positive impact on the survival of fawns and calves of deer, moose, and woodland caribou.

Eben-Ebenau, who came to Canada in 1929, and to north-western Alberta in 1931, describes matters up to 1951. He was a German blue blood, an educated man with an insatiable thirst for hunting. An excellent writer, he was a hard-nosed, very skeptical man who hunted down hard facts with determination. That’s why he records not only the life of trappers quite similar to Hinsche, and social circumstances far superior to the latter, but of interest from current perspective is his accumulation of quantitative data about trappers, as well as his observations of the behavior of wolves. We therefore know how many trappers there were in northern Alberta, how may wolves they killed, how high was the bounty, and how much was paid out.

Eben-Ebenau was so excellent an observer of wildlife that I made use of his observations in synthesizing the biology of moose in my books Deer of the World: Their Evolution, Behaviour, and Ecology (1998) [here] and Moose: Behavior, Ecology, Conservation (1999) [here]. Eben-Ebenau remained well connected to Germany and provided a first rate exhibition of Canadian moose trophies to the 1937 hunting exhibition in Berlin. He maintained a close contact with the natural museum there, as well as famous German personalities, whom he guided or hunted with in Canada. I got to know Eben-Ebenau personally, exchanged correspondence, and we visited each other. I was able to admire his 1937 collection, now displayed at his home at lesser Slave Lake, where he homesteaded. He became a well known guide and outfitter and was honored by the Province of Alberta for his conservation work. This all becomes significant in view of what Ebenau ultimately writes about wolves in northern Alberta.

Trapper income

Max Hinsche’s (p.53) and partner’s 1926/27 catch amounted to one wolf, and 131 ermines for an income of $74.05. In 1951, according to Eben-Ebenau (p.203), the average income of an Alberta trapper was $426. Eben-Ebenau (p. 197) also wrote that he never made more than $500 a winter. He could make twice that working as a carpenter. Clearly, the income from trapping was very low, even if the value of the dollar then was much greater than today. Hinsche’s and his partner’s 1926/27 expenses were not covered by the above return from trapping.

The bounty for wolves

The bounty for wolves (Ebenau p. 214) in 1935 was $5.00 while a wolf pelt was worth $4.00.
In 1940 the bounty rose to $10.00. 1944 the bounty was still $10.00, but the wolf fur fetched $15.00. In 1948 the bounty rose to $15.00, but the value of a wolf fur was only $4.00. It stayed like that until 1952.

Clearly, the bounty adds considerably to the value of a dead wolf and is an incentive, especially since only the scalp needs to be surrendered.

The magnitude of the wolf kill

The registered wolf kill climbed from 165 in 1930 to 187 in 1935 when the first bounty was paid, but climbed to 1,143 wolves in 1948 when the bounty reached $15.00. The registered wolf kill dropped to 829 in 1952. The rise and fall in wolf kills by trappers roughly parallels the pre-war increase and post-war decline in moose in northern Alberta.

The number of trappers

In 1944 there were 2,668 registered trap lines; in 1948 2,839; 1950 2,813; 1951 2,797; and in 1953 2,654. However, there were additional trappers licenses which were issued to homesteaders, farmers and ranchers. In 1951 there were 3,127 such licenses, plus 2,797 trap lines for a total of 5,924 licensed trappers. The 1953 figures are similar. In addition to trappers, hunters, farmers, ranchers, game wardens as well as predator control officers also killed wolves.

The official kill of wolves is roughly one wolf caught by three trap-line owners per year. We do not know the total kill, including wolves not submitted for bounty payments.

Before proceeding, one must note that the apparent low wolf kill in the early 1930’s takes place when wildlife is recovering from a low in earlier decades, so that trappers, concerned about their own food situation are all too eager to rid themselves of wolves. The low wolf kill thus reflects a low wolf population.

4 Jan 2011, 2:30pm
Bunnies Deer, Elk, Bison Homo sapiens Moose Wolves
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The Source of the Harmless Wolf Myth
Note: Dr. Valerius Geist, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science at the University of Calgary in Alberta, is a renowned expert in wildlife management and conservation practices. In addition to teaching, writing about, and lecturing on the subjects, Dr. Geist has performed years of in-the-field research on big game species. He has authored 16 books, seven documentary films and contributed 40 entries to various encyclopedias. Two of his papers are posted in the W.I.S.E. Colloquium: Wildlife Sciences [here, here]. Other essays by Dr. Geist are [here, here, here, here, here, here]

The effects of thousands of impoverished trappers and wolf bounties in northern Alberta early in the 20th century on predators, and its relation to the myth of the harmless wolf.

by Valerius Geist

I have been digging into historical literature in my quest to understand why in North America the myth of the “harmless wolf” took such a such a severe hold, to the point of perverting scholarship and quite probably leading to the death of some believers.

The conventional view of the harmless wolf, which I also believed in throughout my academic career and four years into retirement, is in sharp contrast to experiences elsewhere. Yet, it certainly coincided with my personal experience pre-1999 when a misbehaving pack of wolves settled about our and our neighbor’s properties at the edge of a farming district in central Vancouver Island. I subsequently discovered that the wolves were much the same in their behavior, whatever their origins, but that circumstances lead to vastly different outcomes.

In general, the evidence indicates that wolves are very careful to choose the most nutritious food source most easily obtained without danger. They tackle dangerous prey only when they run out of non dangerous prey, and they shift to new prey only very gradually, following a long period of gradual exploration. Wolves are very sensitive to strangeness, including a potential prey species strange to them. Garbage is the easiest and safest food source for wolves, and they do take advantage of such. Once they are habituated to people due to their proximity, they may begin to investigate people. The ultimate exploration of a strange prey by a carnivore is to attack — consequently, the danger from habituated wolves. However, they need not have garbage, just a shortage of prey to begin investigating and eventually attacking humans. This means that as long as wolves have sufficient natural prey, they leave livestock aloe. As long as they have livestock they leave humans alone. When short of natural prey and livestock they turn their attention to humans and their habitations and may even break into such to extract cattle, horses, pigs, sheep or poultry. Dogs and cats are attacked before that. We humans are next in line, primarily children. But even then the initial attacks are exploratory in nature and clumsy, allowing some victims to escape. However, this scenario is of exceptional scarcity in North America, though it is practiced occasionally by coyotes targeting children in urban parks.

The discrepancy, however, between global and conventional American experiences with wolves is crass. Wolves have killed thousands upon thousands of people as chronicled by European and Asian sources, yet in North America fatal attacks are few and disputed. The differences are real. What then was going on in the past century in North America to make wolves so harmless? I felt I had obtained part of the answer that showed that wolves are wolves wherever they occur, but that circumstances can generate very different outcomes in wolf behavior.


In a teleconference with a committee of the Montana legislature last April, I suggested that in Canada trapping and official wolf control via hired predator control officers was likely a good part of the answer. I ran subsequently into most unlikely sources, plus follow-ups. These are the memoirs of two German authors, the two volume work of Max Hinsche (1935) Kanada Wirklich Erlebt (Canada really experienced) and Reinhold Eben-Ebnau (1953) Goldgelbeds Herbstlaub (Golden yellow fall leaves). In addition I examined C. Gorden Hewit’s (1921) The Conservation of the Wildlife of Canada and followed up with some reading by a like-minded and qualified author on Russian and Siberian conditions Egon Freiherr von Kapherr (1941) Wo es trommelt und röhrt (Where [wildlife] drums and roars).

Max Hinsche arrived in Canada in 1926 and became trapper and collector of wildlife. He was a taxidermist by trade. He spent eight years on the Athabaska River in Northern Alberta, but traveled for a year in the then unexplored Yukon before retuning to Germany in 1935. He wrote his memoirs in two volumes, and died shortly thereafter. He arrived virtually destitute in Canada, and rumor has it he fled the law. When he returned with a significant collection for the Dresden Natural History Museum, somehow, all was forgiven, and his books made him for a short time a hero.

Hinsche is an excellent, vivid writer, and a close, careful, objective observer. His is far and beyond the best account of how trappers lived in Northern Alberta 1926-1935. He illustrates a community of desperately poor, hard struggling men who at great danger to themselves trapped for a meager grubstake in winter. In summer they were employed as laborers, which earned them just enough to go once again trapping. Most held down a trap line alone, some lived in pairs, however, all were united in a web of mutual support and code of conduct. It is evident that there were many such poor trappers as Hinsche met them on the Athabaska going to and from to his trap lines. After a first dreadful year in which Hinsche and a companion of his almost starved to death, Hinsche set up a routine that made him reasonably successful and allowed him some museum collecting. He was out virtually day and night and experienced especially Canadian winter conditions in their full severity.

What was Hinsche’s views on wildlife and wolves? When he came in 1926 moose were scarce, but increased and were abundant when he left in 1935. Mule deer were abundant throughout. Wolves were present, but not common and Hinsche in eight years had only one serious run-in with a wolf pack. However, that run in, described in exquisite detail, is classic. A pack confronted him as he trespassed into an area where they had killed three moose and three deer. Hinsche pointing out that he had only four shells in his rifle, backed out without shooting and reached his cabin safely. (A Saskatchewan friend of mine did exactly the same thing opposing seven very pushy wolves with five cartridges in his rifle’s magazine and chamber). Hinsche counted 18 wolf beds in the snow the following day.

Hinsche trapped a few wolves along with other fur-bearers. His significance resides in his detailed account of the attitude of trappers towards wolves due to the problems wolves cause them. He points out that when wolves arrive in a trappers area, they first of all spook off the big game which the trappers rely on for food. These desperately poor men and their few dogs relied almost entirely on big game for food through the long winter, and when wolves emptied the land of moose and deer the trappers could be in serious difficulty. As we learn later in detail from Eben-Ebenau, keeping meat safe for personal use was not easy, as some bears managed to get at cached meat, which meant that the trapper had to disrupt trap line work and go hunting once again. Finding no wildlife to hunt was thus a very serious concern for a trapper. Secondly, wolves notoriously followed trappers, and destroyed the catch in the traps. This was a serious financial loss to already very poor men, especially if wolves destroyed a high value fur such as lynx, marten, mink, or cross fox. Thirdly, wolves could destroy sled dogs, another economic blow. (And I must add that there are also incidents of a wolf or more attacking a trapper and/or his sled dog team as told to me by native trappers, though neither Hinsche nor Eben-Ebenau mention such). Consequently, and understandably, trapper sought to rid themselves of wolves. Wolf fur was of no particular value. However, with a bounty added, there was incentive to trap wolves. One advantage of the bounty system was that only the scalp had to be handed in to receive the money. Consequently, one only needed the scalp, and one could save oneself the trouble of skinning, preparing and transporting the bulky wolf fur.

Hinsche makes a point that while poison on the trap line was outlawed in 1922, trappers continued to use it on wolves as they could, with some luck, eliminate a wolf pack in one setting, whereas with leg-hold traps they could only catch one or two wolves at best, leaving the survivors to continue with their mischief. Eben-Enenau makes much the same point, but with snares, which were also outlawed (though the prohibition was largely ignored by trappers). A well-set series of snares could catch most of a pack and kill the caught wolves quickly. Ebenau was very skilled in setting snares for wolves, and caught or shot many more wolves than the average trapper. Leg-hold traps large enough to securely hold a wolf had to be fairly large, heavy, and bulky — which would be added work for the already stressed-out trapper. Traps were set along trap lines that were up to a hundred miles long and carrying traps such distances was hard work. Dog teams were not always at hand. After all, game had to be shot for the dogs, or fish caught and dried and transported to the distant line cabins. And then there was the serious problem of bears breaking into trapper cabins and caches. There was thus incentive to not only remove wolves but bears as well. And that, we can safely expect, had a positive impact on the survival of fawns and calves of deer, moose, and woodland caribou.

Eben-Ebenau, who came to Canada in 1929, and to north-western Alberta in 1931, describes matters up to 1951. He was a German blue blood, an educated man with an insatiable thirst for hunting. An excellent writer, he was a hard-nosed, very skeptical man who hunted down hard facts with determination. That’s why he records not only the life of trappers quite similar to Hinsche, and social circumstances far superior to the latter, but of interest from current perspective is his accumulation of quantitative data about trappers, as well as his observations of the behavior of wolves. We therefore know how many trappers there were in northern Alberta, how may wolves they killed, how high was the bounty, and how much was paid out.

Eben-Ebenau was so excellent an observer of wildlife that I made use of his observations in synthesizing the biology of moose in my books Deer of the World: Their Evolution, Behaviour, and Ecology (1998) [here] and Moose: Behavior, Ecology, Conservation (1999) [here]. Eben-Ebenau remained well connected to Germany and provided a first rate exhibition of Canadian moose trophies to the 1937 hunting exhibition in Berlin. He maintained a close contact with the natural museum there, as well as famous German personalities, whom he guided or hunted with in Canada. I got to know Eben-Ebenau personally, exchanged correspondence, and we visited each other. I was able to admire his 1937 collection, now displayed at his home at lesser Slave Lake, where he homesteaded. He became a well known guide and outfitter and was honored by the Province of Alberta for his conservation work. This all becomes significant in view of what Ebenau ultimately writes about wolves in northern Alberta.

Trapper income

Max Hinsche’s (p.53) and partner’s 1926/27 catch amounted to one wolf, and 131 ermines for an income of $74.05. In 1951, according to Eben-Ebenau (p.203), the average income of an Alberta trapper was $426. Eben-Ebenau (p. 197) also wrote that he never made more than $500 a winter. He could make twice that working as a carpenter. Clearly, the income from trapping was very low, even if the value of the dollar then was much greater than today. Hinsche’s and his partner’s 1926/27 expenses were not covered by the above return from trapping.

The bounty for wolves

The bounty for wolves (Ebenau p. 214) in 1935 was $5.00 while a wolf pelt was worth $4.00.
In 1940 the bounty rose to $10.00. 1944 the bounty was still $10.00, but the wolf fur fetched $15.00. In 1948 the bounty rose to $15.00, but the value of a wolf fur was only $4.00. It stayed like that until 1952.

Clearly, the bounty adds considerably to the value of a dead wolf and is an incentive, especially since only the scalp needs to be surrendered.

The magnitude of the wolf kill

The registered wolf kill climbed from 165 in 1930 to 187 in 1935 when the first bounty was paid, but climbed to 1,143 wolves in 1948 when the bounty reached $15.00. The registered wolf kill dropped to 829 in 1952. The rise and fall in wolf kills by trappers roughly parallels the pre-war increase and post-war decline in moose in northern Alberta.

The number of trappers

In 1944 there were 2,668 registered trap lines; in 1948 2,839; 1950 2,813; 1951 2,797; and in 1953 2,654. However, there were additional trappers licenses which were issued to homesteaders, farmers and ranchers. In 1951 there were 3,127 such licenses, plus 2,797 trap lines for a total of 5,924 licensed trappers. The 1953 figures are similar. In addition to trappers, hunters, farmers, ranchers, game wardens as well as predator control officers also killed wolves.

The official kill of wolves is roughly one wolf caught by three trap-line owners per year. We do not know the total kill, including wolves not submitted for bounty payments.

Before proceeding, one must note that the apparent low wolf kill in the early 1930’s takes place when wildlife is recovering from a low in earlier decades, so that trappers, concerned about their own food situation are all too eager to rid themselves of wolves. The low wolf kill thus reflects a low wolf population.

Eben-Ebenau noted that during the maxima of snowshoe rabbit abundance, when the countryside was saturated with rabbits, wolves live to a large extent off rabbits.((I can attest to snowshoe rabbit irruptions, personally having witnessed the 1961/62 rabbit high in BC’s Spazisi northern wilderness). William Rowan of the University of Alberta in Edmonton estimated 32,000 rabbits per square mile during one such maxima — that’s about 36 tons of rabbit biomass per square mile. Smaller carnivores also preyed on snowshoe rabbits during maxima. When rabbit abundance drops, wolves switch increasingly to mule deer as well as livestock, according to Alberta’s former game guardian Mr. B. Lawton (Hewitt 1921, p. 109). During rabbit irruptions wolves avoid and ignore moose. Eben Ebenau observed packs of wolves hunting rabbits among moose while the latter keep on feeding and ignore wolves completely. Ebenau goes on to say that in his very extensive travels he never found a moose killed by wolves in the western part of northern Alberta. Hinsche operated in the eastern-central parts and did not see or kill many wolves, but he did find a few moose kills and noted that moose avoid wolves. That matches with my observations in every region I worked in.

What arises is a picture of thousands of desperately poor men in Northern Alberta, hostile to wolves, trapping for a meager living and eliminating wolves as much as possible, especially when they got paid a bounty and only needed to bring in the scalp. The magnitude of the annual wolf kill is so high that wolves could survive on the massive abundance of rabbits, with a few deer thrown in, while avoiding moose. Wolves were thus severely depleted in Alberta in an ongoing manner early in the 20th century, so much so that they avoided difficult and dangerous prey, left alone livestock, and avoided humans virtually completely. Since wolf packs favored deer, and a deer is quickly consumed, the packs did not have much opportunity to confront humans over kills.

The above suggests that the bounty paid on wolves, far from being ineffective, was very effective in lowering wolf numbers so that big game could built up. Moreover, it is only with current insights into wolf behavior that Eben-Ebenau’s observations on wolves and moose gain significance.

With an army of desperately poor men extracting a living from the wilderness, not only were wolves were routinely depleted, but almost certainly, grizzly bears as well. Thousands of poor men trapping for fur were thus exercising severe predator control.

The myth of the “harmless wolf” is grounded in the reality generated by severe wolf control due to commercial trapping for fur by thousands of poverty stricken trappers who could ill-afford wolves close by. In addition there was systematic destruction of wolves by some native cultures in the far North, as wolves and dog teams and wolves and trapping were not compatible. In the south, meanwhile, there were predator control officers effectively eliminating wolves in farming districts. No wonder the remaining wolves were shy, weary, invisible and harmless, leading to the false conclusion that this was their one and only nature, and that anything to the contrary was due to prejudice.

It’s a shame that biologists, myself included, fell into that false conclusion.

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Two additional books, which I did not incorporate in the above, remain nevertheless significant. C. Gordon Hewitt (1921) opens up his chapter 8, entitled The Enemies of Wild Life and the Control of Predatory Animals with the following words: “Any rational system of wild-life protection must take into account the control of predatory species of mammals and birds.”

C. Gordon Hewitt is not just anybody. He is the father of the 1916 Migratory Bird Convention. He is one of the creators of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. He was a real mover and shaker not only in the Canadian Commission on Conservation (1911-1919), but also a close friend of like-minded US colleagues, such as Hornaday, Nelson, Stone, Roosevelt, etc. Hewitt goes on to show the kind of problems that wolf, coyote and mountain lion predation caused to the livestock industry. The impact was ruinous and triggered very determined measures to keep predators in check. We thus get an inkling of the predation problems ranchers face, and why they were so determined to eliminate wolves. Hewitt gives a pretty good idea of what ranchers have to look forward to in the West in years to come.

Egon Freiherr von Kapherr writes about Russian and Siberian conditions as experienced, on the ground, by a very determined, passionate hunter and naturalist as well as an administrator of districts under the regime of the Tsar, beginning at the turn of the century and lasting into post-revolutionary times. Like Hewitt, Kapherr is not just anybody. He was born a Baron, of the lesser Latvian nobility. He was a highly educated man, with a great passion for natural history. He corresponded with Teddy Roosevelt. He traveled widely in Russia during the horse and buggy, steamship, and rail days , and he took every opportunity to hunt. Much of this took place in winter as such was no deterrent to this man. And he acted as an administrator who visited villages, despite incredible road and travel conditions, or villagers came to him with their woes. He thus had an excellent oversight. In addition to his memoirs of hunting he left behind a popular history of the conquest of Siberia (Mit Kreuz und Knute).

There are certain parallels between Russia/Siberia and early Canada. Fur is highly prized in Russia, and trapping is thus ongoing and severe. The trappers and hunters are not rich, and depend on the forests and streams to make a living. These men are very skillful and may be employed by those who can afford them – as Kapherr could – as assistants to hunting. Kapherr had a good many encounters with large bears that prey on livestock, which he was petitioned by villagers to destroy. Here is a remarkable parallel with Eben-Ebenaus’ experiences hunting large grizzly bears in the Swan Hills in Alberta. Both authors dealt with brown bears, but in both cases wolves were scarce. In severe winters wolves did come from the east into the districts administered by Kapherr. He lost a prized dog to wolves while the dog pack was hunting white tundra hare. Once, while Kapherr was spending a night in a village, a wolf opened a door below and killed a calf. Once Kapherr and his hunters fired (with heavy lead shot) and wounded a wolf. The wolf was tracked over nearly 20 “werst” and was killed by Kapherr’s hunters. He also relates the success of a local hunter who killed a huge wolf at close distance with bird shot. I conclude that despite their poor armament, Russian hunters and trappers were very good at setting snares, and they eliminated wolves for precisely the same reasons that Max Hinsche describes for trappers in northern Alberta early in the past century.

Clearly, the matters which I unearthed in the relevant German literature deserve some close academic attention by historians.

More info. Alberta encompasses 255,541 square miles. Roughly half is boreal forest and wolf country. The wolf kill in the late 40’s and early 50’s thus varied from about 1 wolf per 85 square miles to roughly double or 1 wolf per 160 square miles. Top wolf population in current time is about 3,500 wolves in Alberta or about 1 wolf per 35 square miles. That’s after wolves were protected and had spread. Consequently, during the 1930’s – 50’s there probably were only some 2,000 wolves alive in Alberta. The trapper kill of about 800-1,100 was thus considerable. (1951 there were 2,799 trap lines in about 127,770 square miles of area, plus 3,127 non-trap line trappers: 1 trap line per 45 square miles of land or 1 trapper per 6.7 miles in grid; or 1 trapper of all types per 25.6 square miles and one trapper per 5.05 miles in a grid).

Is it possible that even the partial destruction of pack would lead to the total loss of the pack due to competition from neighbors?

The answer is, apparently, yes. Even the removal of part of a pack can reduce its chances to survive let alone reproduce.
See: Brainered et al. 2008. Effect of breeder loss on wolves. Journal of Wildlife Management. Vol 71(1):89-98.

( Added by Walking Buffalo: Here is a link for the complete study,

Effect of breeder loss on wolves
http://www.nmwild.org/wp-content/upl...e-72-89-98.pdf )



In addition to the above, there were in Alberta operations to increase ungulate population numbers by poisoning wolves in the 1950’s and 60’s (Gunson 1992). There was a poisoning campaign of wolves in British Columbia beginning 1951 and ending 1959, during which tons of horse meat poisoned with strychnine or 1080 were cast from aircraft. This effort was apparently considered only marginally successful!

Recipe for harmless and romantic wolves (based on Alberta data): License trappers so as to have one trapper per 25 square miles. Give him leg-hold traps, snares, poison and an accurate gun; insist that he live off the land; give him a monetary reward for killing wolves; hire predator control officers to kill all wolves entering agricultural lands; let game wardens poison wolves after the big game season; remove all legal protection from wolves so that hunters, ranchers, farmers etc can shoot them all year long; drop by the ton frozen horse meat injected with strychnine or 1080 from aircraft on frozen lakes all winter long; encourage year-round killing of wolves by native people. With this recipe re-implemented, expect very few, shy wolves with limited distribution, virtually free of Echinococcus granulosus or rabies, strong game populations, little if any predation on livestock, and no attacks on humans (the odd rabid wolf excluded). Enjoy the occasional wolf howl in “real” wilderness settings!

It is under such conditions that American wolf biologists convinced themselves that wolves are utterly harmless, good for the ecosystem, and the global experience to the contrary, as symbolized by the Red Riding Hood fairytale, was irrelevant at best, and malicious, ignorant garbage at worst.
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A little long with some areas of repetition but all in all a very good read.
I am not a fan of professor Geist although I certainly respect his work. Seems he has found a realistic view/approach to wolves in Alberta rather than the fairy tale he creted about Grizzly bear declines/endangered.
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Am still shaking my head. Am not quite sure as to what message is being put out ? Could have been said in 3000 less words. Can't see too many reading it all as soon as they start reading it again.If the point is to thin out wolves, then just say it... Might pick up on some of Ebenaus' books though
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Yea, kind of wordy. Part of the challenge is reading it from a computer screen.

Geist is definatly getting cranky with age. He is frustrated with the Mainland US wolf lovers. But the focus and proof of his thoughts will give another valid counter point to those who feel that hunting/trapping predators is wrong.

I'm curious about Ebanaus' books as well. First hand Alberta trapping history, should be good.
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I mentioned interesting but also a little lengthy but I forgot to thank you for this and many other posts WB that cause us to think about the resource, issues history and often long range planning. I for one appreciate the diversity and information your posts bring to this forum and look forward to them.
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I found this interesting. As a trapper, I respect the wolves intelligence and cunning, and their ability to quickly ascertain what happened at each snare site and avoid similiar reoccurrences.
Once you catch a wolf, the remainder of the pack kinda goes goofy and disorganized for a short while and that is your chance to pick up more if you have more snares set in the area, but after that, you now have a much smarter pack of wolves.
Setting out poison, in my view is wrong, unethical, and will kill anything that eats meat. I watched my dad's sleigh dog die from poisoned wolf bait, and it's not pretty, folks! My dad refused to use poison, but a lot of 'trappers' did. A government that promotes that is not knowledgeable of wildlife or it's consequences. Most government types have just enough knowledge to make them dangerous.
I personally knew Mr. Eben-Ebeanau, and he was a very intelligent man. His observations were always backed up with conviction and a strong voice, and to contact government officials and give them the facts was not a problem. I didn't always agree with him, but I respected him.
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Geeze WB, could you edit it after the cut and paste to remove all the repeated parts? Makes it too hard to follow.
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Thanks for all the research...like Doug I'm going to try to find E-E's books!!
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I too, like Northern Trapper, know members of the family and am going to contact them in regards to what books might be available.. If anyone might be interested in them as well, give me a call
His son, still has a collection/museum, on the family homestead, of his Dad's exploits and adventures. What is really evident there is the records and notes kept on almost everything.. It's a nice place to visit... He has had it open for viewing in the past, however I would call ahead to make sure someone is about should you be passing by... ..
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Walking Buffalo is going too great a lenght to promote his father Rienhart Eben Ebenau. Who's going to spent the time to read through so much and why should one want to do so. The forum is for viewing others comments and for entertainment and not for reading threads that go on for ever. Rienhart Eben Ebenau came to Canada and operated as an early guide in Alberta. Reinhart most likely shoot up everything that moved and then he turned about to become a conservationist in his own mind. Somewhat sorry to have to say so in such a blunt way.
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Walking Buffalo is going too great a lenght to promote his father Rienhart Eben Ebenau. Who's going to spent the time to read through so much and why should one want to do so. The forum is for viewing others comments and for entertainment and not for reading threads that go on for ever. Rienhart Eben Ebenau came to Canada and operated as an early guide in Alberta. Reinhart most likely shoot up everything that moved and then he turned about to become a conservationist in his own mind. Somewhat sorry to have to say so in such a blunt way.
Sorry there are so many words in a row.
But I do appreciate the heads up that I was adopted.....

To be blunt.
While you show symptoms of innate antagonistic jealousy, I'm more concerned with your nescience of the article's purpose.

A shortened version for LSLAKER.....

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Walking Buffalo is going too great a lenght to promote his father Rienhart Eben Ebenau. Who's going to spent the time to read through so much and why should one want to do so. The forum is for viewing others comments and for entertainment and not for reading threads that go on for ever. Rienhart Eben Ebenau came to Canada and operated as an early guide in Alberta. Reinhart most likely shoot up everything that moved and then he turned about to become a conservationist in his own mind. Somewhat sorry to have to say so in such a blunt way.
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Interesting reading. The books of Hinsche and von Kapherr are available from amazon.com and amazon.de but only in German AFAIK. May have to get them and try reading some time.

One piece of criticism I have for Geist that in the relationship of humans and wolves in Eurasia rabies needs to be considered.

Rabies was endemic in wild wolf populations in, for example, central Europe. Rabies was rightfully feared by villagers as it was inevitably deadly once bitten by an infected animal. No human ever survived being bitten by a rabid wolf until 1885 and even since people died of rabies. It's also a very ugly death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur

Rabies changes the behaviour of an infected wolf, or any animal for that matter. Makes them much more dangerous. That was certainly very much on the minds of people 200 years ago in Europe or Siberia.

I seem to recall that rabies was less prevalent in wolves in North America, but I'm not sure about that.

It certainly still is a concern today, even though people bitten by rabid animals usually survive because of the availability of an effective post-exposure vaccine. ( Worldwide though people still die of rabies, even in North America, every year. Often the victim does not notice haven been bitten by a bat in their sleep, unfortunately happens to a number of people in Latin America every year.)

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Pay little or no attention to the SLACKER, there has been something in IT'S cornflakes for some time now..
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Then there was this idiot, for want of a better word. Too bad he didn't qualify for a Darwin award.

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In keeping with my 2010 New Year's resolution, I will now try editing my OP hack copy and paste. Your welcome Pudel.

I continue to believe in this "learned fear or man" conditioning expressed by Geist,that may be applied to many forms of wildlife. When it comes to large predators, I think this is a good thing.
Something that aerial culls will not administer.





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The Source of the Harmless Wolf Myth by Valerius Geist



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The Source of the Harmless Wolf Myth
Note: Dr. Valerius Geist, Professor Emeritus of Environmental Science at the University of Calgary in Alberta, is a renowned expert in wildlife management and conservation practices. In addition to teaching, writing about, and lecturing on the subjects, Dr. Geist has performed years of in-the-field research on big game species. He has authored 16 books, seven documentary films and contributed 40 entries to various encyclopedias. Two of his papers are posted in the W.I.S.E. Colloquium: Wildlife Sciences [here, here]. Other essays by Dr. Geist are [here, here, here, here, here, here]

The effects of thousands of impoverished trappers and wolf bounties in northern Alberta early in the 20th century on predators, and its relation to the myth of the harmless wolf.

by Valerius Geist

I have been digging into historical literature in my quest to understand why in North America the myth of the “harmless wolf” took such a such a severe hold, to the point of perverting scholarship and quite probably leading to the death of some believers.

The conventional view of the harmless wolf, which I also believed in throughout my academic career and four years into retirement, is in sharp contrast to experiences elsewhere. Yet, it certainly coincided with my personal experience pre-1999 when a misbehaving pack of wolves settled about our and our neighbor’s properties at the edge of a farming district in central Vancouver Island. I subsequently discovered that the wolves were much the same in their behavior, whatever their origins, but that circumstances lead to vastly different outcomes.

In general, the evidence indicates that wolves are very careful to choose the most nutritious food source most easily obtained without danger. They tackle dangerous prey only when they run out of non dangerous prey, and they shift to new prey only very gradually, following a long period of gradual exploration. Wolves are very sensitive to strangeness, including a potential prey species strange to them. Garbage is the easiest and safest food source for wolves, and they do take advantage of such. Once they are habituated to people due to their proximity, they may begin to investigate people. The ultimate exploration of a strange prey by a carnivore is to attack — consequently, the danger from habituated wolves. However, they need not have garbage, just a shortage of prey to begin investigating and eventually attacking humans. This means that as long as wolves have sufficient natural prey, they leave livestock aloe. As long as they have livestock they leave humans alone. When short of natural prey and livestock they turn their attention to humans and their habitations and may even break into such to extract cattle, horses, pigs, sheep or poultry. Dogs and cats are attacked before that. We humans are next in line, primarily children. But even then the initial attacks are exploratory in nature and clumsy, allowing some victims to escape. However, this scenario is of exceptional scarcity in North America, though it is practiced occasionally by coyotes targeting children in urban parks.

The discrepancy, however, between global and conventional American experiences with wolves is crass. Wolves have killed thousands upon thousands of people as chronicled by European and Asian sources, yet in North America fatal attacks are few and disputed. The differences are real. What then was going on in the past century in North America to make wolves so harmless? I felt I had obtained part of the answer that showed that wolves are wolves wherever they occur, but that circumstances can generate very different outcomes in wolf behavior.


In a teleconference with a committee of the Montana legislature last April, I suggested that in Canada trapping and official wolf control via hired predator control officers was likely a good part of the answer. I ran subsequently into most unlikely sources, plus follow-ups. These are the memoirs of two German authors, the two volume work of Max Hinsche (1935) Kanada Wirklich Erlebt (Canada really experienced) and Reinhold Eben-Ebnau (1953) Goldgelbeds Herbstlaub (Golden yellow fall leaves). In addition I examined C. Gorden Hewit’s (1921) The Conservation of the Wildlife of Canada and followed up with some reading by a like-minded and qualified author on Russian and Siberian conditions Egon Freiherr von Kapherr (1941) Wo es trommelt und röhrt (Where [wildlife] drums and roars).


Max Hinsche arrived in Canada in 1926 and became trapper and collector of wildlife. He was a taxidermist by trade. He spent eight years on the Athabaska River in Northern Alberta, but traveled for a year in the then unexplored Yukon before retuning to Germany in 1935. He wrote his memoirs in two volumes, and died shortly thereafter. He arrived virtually destitute in Canada, and rumor has it he fled the law. When he returned with a significant collection for the Dresden Natural History Museum, somehow, all was forgiven, and his books made him for a short time a hero.

Hinsche is an excellent, vivid writer, and a close, careful, objective observer. His is far and beyond the best account of how trappers lived in Northern Alberta 1926-1935. He illustrates a community of desperately poor, hard struggling men who at great danger to themselves trapped for a meager grubstake in winter. In summer they were employed as laborers, which earned them just enough to go once again trapping. Most held down a trap line alone, some lived in pairs, however, all were united in a web of mutual support and code of conduct. It is evident that there were many such poor trappers as Hinsche met them on the Athabaska going to and from to his trap lines. After a first dreadful year in which Hinsche and a companion of his almost starved to death, Hinsche set up a routine that made him reasonably successful and allowed him some museum collecting. He was out virtually day and night and experienced especially Canadian winter conditions in their full severity.

What was Hinsche’s views on wildlife and wolves? When he came in 1926 moose were scarce, but increased and were abundant when he left in 1935. Mule deer were abundant throughout. Wolves were present, but not common and Hinsche in eight years had only one serious run-in with a wolf pack. However, that run in, described in exquisite detail, is classic. A pack confronted him as he trespassed into an area where they had killed three moose and three deer. Hinsche pointing out that he had only four shells in his rifle, backed out without shooting and reached his cabin safely. (A Saskatchewan friend of mine did exactly the same thing opposing seven very pushy wolves with five cartridges in his rifle’s magazine and chamber). Hinsche counted 18 wolf beds in the snow the following day.

Hinsche trapped a few wolves along with other fur-bearers. His significance resides in his detailed account of the attitude of trappers towards wolves due to the problems wolves cause them. He points out that when wolves arrive in a trappers area, they first of all spook off the big game which the trappers rely on for food. These desperately poor men and their few dogs relied almost entirely on big game for food through the long winter, and when wolves emptied the land of moose and deer the trappers could be in serious difficulty. As we learn later in detail from Eben-Ebenau, keeping meat safe for personal use was not easy, as some bears managed to get at cached meat, which meant that the trapper had to disrupt trap line work and go hunting once again. Finding no wildlife to hunt was thus a very serious concern for a trapper. Secondly, wolves notoriously followed trappers, and destroyed the catch in the traps. This was a serious financial loss to already very poor men, especially if wolves destroyed a high value fur such as lynx, marten, mink, or cross fox. Thirdly, wolves could destroy sled dogs, another economic blow. (And I must add that there are also incidents of a wolf or more attacking a trapper and/or his sled dog team as told to me by native trappers, though neither Hinsche nor Eben-Ebenau mention such). Consequently, and understandably, trapper sought to rid themselves of wolves. Wolf fur was of no particular value. However, with a bounty added, there was incentive to trap wolves. One advantage of the bounty system was that only the scalp had to be handed in to receive the money. Consequently, one only needed the scalp, and one could save oneself the trouble of skinning, preparing and transporting the bulky wolf fur.
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Hinsche makes a point that while poison on the trap line was outlawed in 1922, trappers continued to use it on wolves as they could, with some luck, eliminate a wolf pack in one setting, whereas with leg-hold traps they could only catch one or two wolves at best, leaving the survivors to continue with their mischief. Eben-Enenau makes much the same point, but with snares, which were also outlawed (though the prohibition was largely ignored by trappers). A well-set series of snares could catch most of a pack and kill the caught wolves quickly. Ebenau was very skilled in setting snares for wolves, and caught or shot many more wolves than the average trapper. Leg-hold traps large enough to securely hold a wolf had to be fairly large, heavy, and bulky — which would be added work for the already stressed-out trapper. Traps were set along trap lines that were up to a hundred miles long and carrying traps such distances was hard work. Dog teams were not always at hand. After all, game had to be shot for the dogs, or fish caught and dried and transported to the distant line cabins. And then there was the serious problem of bears breaking into trapper cabins and caches. There was thus incentive to not only remove wolves but bears as well. And that, we can safely expect, had a positive impact on the survival of fawns and calves of deer, moose, and woodland caribou.

Eben-Ebenau, who came to Canada in 1929, and to north-western Alberta in 1931, describes matters up to 1951. He was a German blue blood, an educated man with an insatiable thirst for hunting. An excellent writer, he was a hard-nosed, very skeptical man who hunted down hard facts with determination. That’s why he records not only the life of trappers quite similar to Hinsche, and social circumstances far superior to the latter, but of interest from current perspective is his accumulation of quantitative data about trappers, as well as his observations of the behavior of wolves. We therefore know how many trappers there were in northern Alberta, how may wolves they killed, how high was the bounty, and how much was paid out.

Eben-Ebenau was so excellent an observer of wildlife that I made use of his observations in synthesizing the biology of moose in my books Deer of the World: Their Evolution, Behaviour, and Ecology (1998) [here] and Moose: Behavior, Ecology, Conservation (1999) [here]. Eben-Ebenau remained well connected to Germany and provided a first rate exhibition of Canadian moose trophies to the 1937 hunting exhibition in Berlin. He maintained a close contact with the natural museum there, as well as famous German personalities, whom he guided or hunted with in Canada. I got to know Eben-Ebenau personally, exchanged correspondence, and we visited each other. I was able to admire his 1937 collection, now displayed at his home at lesser Slave Lake, where he homesteaded. He became a well known guide and outfitter and was honored by the Province of Alberta for his conservation work. This all becomes significant in view of what Ebenau ultimately writes about wolves in northern Alberta.

Trapper income

Max Hinsche’s (p.53) and partner’s 1926/27 catch amounted to one wolf, and 131 ermines for an income of $74.05. In 1951, according to Eben-Ebenau (p.203), the average income of an Alberta trapper was $426. Eben-Ebenau (p. 197) also wrote that he never made more than $500 a winter. He could make twice that working as a carpenter. Clearly, the income from trapping was very low, even if the value of the dollar then was much greater than today. Hinsche’s and his partner’s 1926/27 expenses were not covered by the above return from trapping.


The bounty for wolves

The bounty for wolves (Ebenau p. 214) in 1935 was $5.00 while a wolf pelt was worth $4.00.
In 1940 the bounty rose to $10.00. 1944 the bounty was still $10.00, but the wolf fur fetched $15.00. In 1948 the bounty rose to $15.00, but the value of a wolf fur was only $4.00. It stayed like that until 1952.

Clearly, the bounty adds considerably to the value of a dead wolf and is an incentive, especially since only the scalp needs to be surrendered.

The magnitude of the wolf kill

The registered wolf kill climbed from 165 in 1930 to 187 in 1935 when the first bounty was paid, but climbed to 1,143 wolves in 1948 when the bounty reached $15.00. The registered wolf kill dropped to 829 in 1952. The rise and fall in wolf kills by trappers roughly parallels the pre-war increase and post-war decline in moose in northern Alberta.

The number of trappers

In 1944 there were 2,668 registered trap lines; in 1948 2,839; 1950 2,813; 1951 2,797; and in 1953 2,654. However, there were additional trappers licenses which were issued to homesteaders, farmers and ranchers. In 1951 there were 3,127 such licenses, plus 2,797 trap lines for a total of 5,924 licensed trappers. The 1953 figures are similar. In addition to trappers, hunters, farmers, ranchers, game wardens as well as predator control officers also killed wolves.

The official kill of wolves is roughly one wolf caught by three trap-line owners per year. We do not know the total kill, including wolves not submitted for bounty payments.

Before proceeding, one must note that the apparent low wolf kill in the early 1930’s takes place when wildlife is recovering from a low in earlier decades, so that trappers, concerned about their own food situation are all too eager to rid themselves of wolves. The low wolf kill thus reflects a low wolf population.


Eben-Ebenau noted that during the maxima of snowshoe rabbit abundance, when the countryside was saturated with rabbits, wolves live to a large extent off rabbits.((I can attest to snowshoe rabbit irruptions, personally having witnessed the 1961/62 rabbit high in BC’s Spazisi northern wilderness). William Rowan of the University of Alberta in Edmonton estimated 32,000 rabbits per square mile during one such maxima — that’s about 36 tons of rabbit biomass per square mile. Smaller carnivores also preyed on snowshoe rabbits during maxima. When rabbit abundance drops, wolves switch increasingly to mule deer as well as livestock, according to Alberta’s former game guardian Mr. B. Lawton (Hewitt 1921, p. 109). During rabbit irruptions wolves avoid and ignore moose. Eben Ebenau observed packs of wolves hunting rabbits among moose while the latter keep on feeding and ignore wolves completely. Ebenau goes on to say that in his very extensive travels he never found a moose killed by wolves in the western part of northern Alberta. Hinsche operated in the eastern-central parts and did not see or kill many wolves, but he did find a few moose kills and noted that moose avoid wolves. That matches with my observations in every region I worked in.

What arises is a picture of thousands of desperately poor men in Northern Alberta, hostile to wolves, trapping for a meager living and eliminating wolves as much as possible, especially when they got paid a bounty and only needed to bring in the scalp. The magnitude of the annual wolf kill is so high that wolves could survive on the massive abundance of rabbits, with a few deer thrown in, while avoiding moose. Wolves were thus severely depleted in Alberta in an ongoing manner early in the 20th century, so much so that they avoided difficult and dangerous prey, left alone livestock, and avoided humans virtually completely. Since wolf packs favored deer, and a deer is quickly consumed, the packs did not have much opportunity to confront humans over kills.

The above suggests that the bounty paid on wolves, far from being ineffective, was very effective in lowering wolf numbers so that big game could built up. Moreover, it is only with current insights into wolf behavior that Eben-Ebenau’s observations on wolves and moose gain significance.

With an army of desperately poor men extracting a living from the wilderness, not only were wolves were routinely depleted, but almost certainly, grizzly bears as well. Thousands of poor men trapping for fur were thus exercising severe predator control.

The myth of the “harmless wolf” is grounded in the reality generated by severe wolf control due to commercial trapping for fur by thousands of poverty stricken trappers who could ill-afford wolves close by. In addition there was systematic destruction of wolves by some native cultures in the far North, as wolves and dog teams and wolves and trapping were not compatible. In the south, meanwhile, there were predator control officers effectively eliminating wolves in farming districts. No wonder the remaining wolves were shy, weary, invisible and harmless, leading to the false conclusion that this was their one and only nature, and that anything to the contrary was due to prejudice.

It’s a shame that biologists, myself included, fell into that false conclusion.

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Two additional books, which I did not incorporate in the above, remain nevertheless significant. C. Gordon Hewitt (1921) opens up his chapter 8, entitled The Enemies of Wild Life and the Control of Predatory Animals with the following words: “Any rational system of wild-life protection must take into account the control of predatory species of mammals and birds.”

C. Gordon Hewitt is not just anybody. He is the father of the 1916 Migratory Bird Convention. He is one of the creators of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. He was a real mover and shaker not only in the Canadian Commission on Conservation (1911-1919), but also a close friend of like-minded US colleagues, such as Hornaday, Nelson, Stone, Roosevelt, etc. Hewitt goes on to show the kind of problems that wolf, coyote and mountain lion predation caused to the livestock industry. The impact was ruinous and triggered very determined measures to keep predators in check. We thus get an inkling of the predation problems ranchers face, and why they were so determined to eliminate wolves. Hewitt gives a pretty good idea of what ranchers have to look forward to in the West in years to come.

Egon Freiherr von Kapherr writes about Russian and Siberian conditions as experienced, on the ground, by a very determined, passionate hunter and naturalist as well as an administrator of districts under the regime of the Tsar, beginning at the turn of the century and lasting into post-revolutionary times. Like Hewitt, Kapherr is not just anybody. He was born a Baron, of the lesser Latvian nobility. He was a highly educated man, with a great passion for natural history. He corresponded with Teddy Roosevelt. He traveled widely in Russia during the horse and buggy, steamship, and rail days , and he took every opportunity to hunt. Much of this took place in winter as such was no deterrent to this man. And he acted as an administrator who visited villages, despite incredible road and travel conditions, or villagers came to him with their woes. He thus had an excellent oversight. In addition to his memoirs of hunting he left behind a popular history of the conquest of Siberia (Mit Kreuz und Knute).

There are certain parallels between Russia/Siberia and early Canada. Fur is highly prized in Russia, and trapping is thus ongoing and severe. The trappers and hunters are not rich, and depend on the forests and streams to make a living. These men are very skillful and may be employed by those who can afford them – as Kapherr could – as assistants to hunting. Kapherr had a good many encounters with large bears that prey on livestock, which he was petitioned by villagers to destroy. Here is a remarkable parallel with Eben-Ebenaus’ experiences hunting large grizzly bears in the Swan Hills in Alberta. Both authors dealt with brown bears, but in both cases wolves were scarce. In severe winters wolves did come from the east into the districts administered by Kapherr. He lost a prized dog to wolves while the dog pack was hunting white tundra hare. Once, while Kapherr was spending a night in a village, a wolf opened a door below and killed a calf. Once Kapherr and his hunters fired (with heavy lead shot) and wounded a wolf. The wolf was tracked over nearly 20 “werst” and was killed by Kapherr’s hunters. He also relates the success of a local hunter who killed a huge wolf at close distance with bird shot. I conclude that despite their poor armament, Russian hunters and trappers were very good at setting snares, and they eliminated wolves for precisely the same reasons that Max Hinsche describes for trappers in northern Alberta early in the past century.

Clearly, the matters which I unearthed in the relevant German literature deserve some close academic attention by historians.

More info. Alberta encompasses 255,541 square miles. Roughly half is boreal forest and wolf country. The wolf kill in the late 40’s and early 50’s thus varied from about 1 wolf per 85 square miles to roughly double or 1 wolf per 160 square miles. Top wolf population in current time is about 3,500 wolves in Alberta or about 1 wolf per 35 square miles. That’s after wolves were protected and had spread. Consequently, during the 1930’s – 50’s there probably were only some 2,000 wolves alive in Alberta. The trapper kill of about 800-1,100 was thus considerable. (1951 there were 2,799 trap lines in about 127,770 square miles of area, plus 3,127 non-trap line trappers: 1 trap line per 45 square miles of land or 1 trapper per 6.7 miles in grid; or 1 trapper of all types per 25.6 square miles and one trapper per 5.05 miles in a grid).

Is it possible that even the partial destruction of pack would lead to the total loss of the pack due to competition from neighbors?

The answer is, apparently, yes. Even the removal of part of a pack can reduce its chances to survive let alone reproduce.
See: Brainered et al. 2008. Effect of breeder loss on wolves. Journal of Wildlife Management. Vol 71(1):89-98.

( Added by Walking Buffalo: Here is a link for the complete study,

Effect of breeder loss on wolves
http://www.nmwild.org/wp-content/upl...e-72-89-98.pdf )



In addition to the above, there were in Alberta operations to increase ungulate population numbers by poisoning wolves in the 1950’s and 60’s (Gunson 1992). There was a poisoning campaign of wolves in British Columbia beginning 1951 and ending 1959, during which tons of horse meat poisoned with strychnine or 1080 were cast from aircraft. This effort was apparently considered only marginally successful!

Recipe for harmless and romantic wolves (based on Alberta data): License trappers so as to have one trapper per 25 square miles. Give him leg-hold traps, snares, poison and an accurate gun; insist that he live off the land; give him a monetary reward for killing wolves; hire predator control officers to kill all wolves entering agricultural lands; let game wardens poison wolves after the big game season; remove all legal protection from wolves so that hunters, ranchers, farmers etc can shoot them all year long; drop by the ton frozen horse meat injected with strychnine or 1080 from aircraft on frozen lakes all winter long; encourage year-round killing of wolves by native people. With this recipe re-implemented, expect very few, shy wolves with limited distribution, virtually free of Echinococcus granulosus or rabies, strong game populations, little if any predation on livestock, and no attacks on humans (the odd rabid wolf excluded). Enjoy the occasional wolf howl in “real” wilderness settings!

It is under such conditions that American wolf biologists convinced themselves that wolves are utterly harmless, good for the ecosystem, and the global experience to the contrary, as symbolized by the Red Riding Hood fairytale, was irrelevant at best, and malicious, ignorant garbage at worst.
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Recent article by Mark Boyce from wolf study in Southern Alberta. He found Alberta beef made up 45% of their diet when cattle were on summer pasture.
Guys like Giest, EE etc were real experts most others are in La La land when it comes to wolves.
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Then there was this idiot, for want of a better word. Too bad he didn't qualify for a Darwin award.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...ed-with-wolves


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Thanks for the post Walking. Yeh, it took a couple seconds to scroll through the repeated section (no big deal), but was an interesting read.
The part I don't understand is why the author started with the "harmless" Wolf theory to begin with? It wasn't till after he retired that a knowledgable biologist questioned whether Wolves were harmless or not?
He certainly painted a bleak picture of what it was like to be a trapper back in the day. Brutal way to earn a living, or to simply stay alive. My Grandfather was one of those trappers, but at least he had a homestead and a bit of farmland, relatively close to a town.
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My dad arrived in Alberta in 1926 and moved to the Peace River area in 1928.

He talked a lot about his early years in Alberta and the stories he told did not agree with much of what Mr. Geist writes.
Dad told of seeing herds of Deer numbering in the low hundreds in the hill along the Peace River in the early 1930s.
I remember relatively recent game trails in the early 1960s, a foot wide and cut six inches into the soil on the ridge along the valley where we grew up.
There were bleached bison sculls along those trails, bleached but not ancient.

Dad did describe Wolf encounters where the Wolves seemed to be testing him but I never heard him or any of the other trappers talk about any significant wolf attacks on livestock. It did happen but not often and when the big game dissapeared the attacks did not increase from what I heard.

Something else dad talked about that does not mesh with what Mr. Geist writes. Dad talked about how tapping was very profitable for those who knew how to trap.
I know that dad trapped to support his family and I know that dad used trapping income to buy the homestead land and the equipment to work that land.

I also remember Fox pens out behind our cabin. They were used by the trapper who had built that cabin. Dad said that when he arrived in the valley local trappers would trap Fox before the season opened and hold them in pens such as these until they primed up.
He said they made a fortune doing that but it all ended when the rabies plaque wiped out the Fox in 1956.

The stories dad and other trappers told leads me to believe that Mr. Geist is largely right about why the Wolves here do not attack humans.
But I have grave doubts about his knowledge of trapping or of the wildlife populations during the time period he writes about.

I do know this, a great many Europeans came to this country to find adventure and when they did not find it to the degree they desired they embellished their accounts of what they experienced.

Most of us know the truth behind the book Never Cry Wolf. I suspect that Mr. Qeist has fallen for similar writing.
However, it could be that he did not fall for it, maybe he is emulating it.
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Hi: I recall my instructor in NAIT (Dr P.) sharing with me his theory of why wolves SEEM to eat more people in Europe and Asia. He felt that because large scale wars left a lot more human carrion around for wolves to feed on. In turn, this helped wolves to develop a taste for human flesh. Perhaps this led to more human-eating wolves who survived to spread their lack of human fear to their offspring by behavioral teaching and genetics predisposition.

I found this when I was thinking about attacks in North America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._North_America

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Well know that's not to bad, I just added it up and only 90 persons have been attacked/and or killed by wolves in North America. These are only the documented cases, many first nations people and trappers went missing with no record. " Nice wolf puppy"
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Dad told of seeing herds of Deer numbering in the low hundreds in the hill along the Peace River in the early 1930s.
I remember my dad saying the samething. Once he said he looked over the river bank and it seemed like the whole hillside was moving.
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I remember my dad saying the samething. Once he said he looked over the river bank and it seemed like the whole hillside was moving.
What was really happening and seen, was a mirage....it was the flowing water that made the hillsides move....lol
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Thanks for the info in this thread, Walking buffalo.

Wish I had more than a phone for input on this subject.

My dad was a trapper (says so on his naturalization paper)
in the time of Hinsche.
I started trapping around Ebenau's time.

So my experience with trapline income does not agree with Eben.

My 2nd year of running my line solo, mink were around 30 bucks,
ermine, squirrel, redfox 1 buck.
But that year I got about what Eban said a trapper's income was.

I was 10 years old.
For the times & location, my dad appeared to make a much better than average living.
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